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It AINT over!

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by RM24, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. RM24

    RM24 BoltTalker

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    All we need to do is win out and KC loses 1 and we win the AFC West. Just use the playoff machine link on ESPN.com. Just highlight the Chargers in the last 3 weeks and put 1 loss (any loss) on KC and you'll see we'll win the AFC West! But if we BOTH win out then KC wins the AFC West. :(

    2010 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios - ESPN

    A very interesting scenerio is if the Jets lose the last 3 weeks AND both KC and Chargers win out then BOTH could make the playoffs. KC as division winner and Chargers as the 6th seed. The problem is that we'll be traveling to KC. Hey, at least we're in!
     
  2. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man New Member

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    I tried this link last Friday after a few beers. I failed.

    Now sober, I am embarassed because I can not figure out how it works so the moral of the story to the rest of the computer rocks heads - you are not alone.

    OK ...... now it is time to laugh.
     
  3. Old School SD Fan

    Old School SD Fan Unhappy Camper

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    If I recall correctly, division record is first tie breaker; right now KC & SD are even there. Next tie breaker I think is score differential in games aganst each other, isn't it? Advantage SD.

    Common opponents factors in somewhere down the line as well I think...
     
  4. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man New Member

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    Here it is:

    NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures

    NFL Tiebreaking Procedures
    The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

    The division champion with the best record.
    The division champion with the second-best record.
    The division champion with the third-best record.
    The division champion with the fourth-best record.
    The Wild Card club with the best record.
    The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
    The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

    NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

    TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

    If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

    Two Clubs
    Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in common games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss


    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

    Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in common games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss

    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

    If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
    Two Clubs
    Head-to-head, if applicable.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in conference games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss.

    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

    Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
    Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in conference games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss
    When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

    OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES

    Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to Step 1 of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tiebreaker, all other clubs revert to Step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
    In comparing records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor, since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
    To determine home-field priority among division-titlists, apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
    To determine home-field priority for Wild Card qualifiers, apply division tie-breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild Card tiebreakers (if teams are from different divisions).
    To determine the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed, add a team's position in the two categories, and the lowest score wins. For example, if Team A is first in points scored and second in points allowed, its combined ranking is "3." If Team B is third in points scored and first in points allowed, its combined ranking is "4." Team A then wins the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely. For example, if Team A and Team B are tied for first in points scored, each team is assigned a ranking of "1" in that category, and if Team C is third, its ranking will still be "3."

    TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING

    Clubs not participating in the playoffs shall select in the first through 20th positions in reverse standings order.
    The Super Bowl winner is last and Super Bowl loser is next-to-last.
    The losers of the Conference Championship games shall select 29th and 30th based on won-lost-tied percentage.
    The losers of the Divisional playoff games shall select 25th through 28th based on won-lost-tied percentage.
    The losers of the Wild Card games shall select 21st through 24th based on won-lost-tied percentage.
    If ties exist in any grouping except (2) above, such ties shall be broken by strength-of-schedule. If any ties cannot be broken by strength-of-schedule, the divisional or conference tie-breakers, if applicable, shall be applied. Any ties that still exist shall be broken by a coin flip.
     
  5. RM24

    RM24 BoltTalker

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    Man, that shiat is too complicated! :lol: Just remember we have to win out, KC has to lose 1 and we win the AFC West. If we BOTH win out, Jet's have to drop all 3 of it's remaining games and we both get in. Chargers as a 6th seed Wildcard.
     
  6. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man New Member

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    No kidding it is complicated. That is why I'd rather someone else figure it out. It is like paying a gardner to cut the grass because you hate doing it. F-it.

    Now what if we both end up at 9-7 ? Do we still win ?
     
  7. RM24

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    I believe if we both end up 9-7 KC still wins the division and we will be the 6th seed traveling to KC IF the Jets drop the last 3. Many different scenerios but all I know is there is NO margin for error on our part, we have to win out. But even if we both win out, we would need a total collapse by the Jets having them drop the last 3, which could happen the way things are in Jet land. We are rooting big time for the Rams, Tennesee and (Gasp) Oakland. If we win out, Jets lose out, and KC loses to Oakland in the final week, KC would travel BACK to San Diego as a 6th seed!
     
  8. hopkinsway

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  9. Zeus

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    Chargers go if:

    Chargers win out and KC losses any game.
    Chargers win out and Ravens lose any two games
    Chargers win out and Jets lose any two games.

    So a Chargers win and KC, Ravens, and Jets lose this week will be sitting pretty.
     

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