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Jackson could play in Week 4, or face six-game suspension

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    • By Jason La Canfora NFL.com
    • Published: Aug. 23, 2010
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    Disgruntled wide receiver Vincent Jackson could miss as few as three weeks or as many as six, depending on any potentail trade.

    Jackson, like teammate Marcus McNeill, was placed on the roster-exempt list by the Chargers, a designation that carries a three-game suspension with it. And Jackson also has a league mandated three-game suspension for violating the substance abuse policy, which will be served beginning Week 1 regardless of his team or roster status.

    According to an NFL spokesperson, if Jackson was traded and reported to his new club before the Sept. 4 deadline for final roster reduction, then his roster-exempt suspension would be served concurrently with the league-mandated suspension, and therefore Jackson could return to the active roster for Week 4.

    If Vincent Jackson isn't traded before the 6 p.m. (ET) roster deadline on Sept. 4, he faces missing six games this season even if he's dealt after that.

    The Chargers are at least somewhat open to trading Jackson, as they granted permission for him to speak to the Seattle Seahawks last week.

    Here is the official statement from the league on the matter:

    "Vincent Jackson's three-game Substance Abuse suspension begins once the final roster reduction takes place (6:00 PM ET on Sept. 4).
    "Jackson is ineligible to report to the club during his suspension.

    "As per the CBA's restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA's restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club."
     
  2. DenverBolt67

    DenverBolt67 BoltTalker

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    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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  4. ntman68

    ntman68 Well-Known Member

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    Goodbye #83. The future is #80.
     
  5. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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  6. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    It makes me wonder what Bic Mac is asking for. The team has payed talented players in the past. Gates (a couple of times) Rivers, LT etc...

    I wonder if MM is asking to break the bank as well. ??? Simple speculation, who knows...
     
  7. markrc99

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    That new old report is predated by the follow-up article posted by DenverBolt67, but here's another one dated today.

    "The San Diego Chargers' rumored trade of restricted free-agent WR Vincent Jackson to the Seattle Seahawks appears unlikely unless Jackson lowers his asking price in years or money or both, reports Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune. The Chargers have not even officially given the Seahawks any requirements for trade. The second-round pick that was reported is what the Seahawks were floating around league circles."
    http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/Vincent_Jackson/1116057#ixzz0xSrl5Epf


    The media is truly a pathetic mouthpiece. Vincent Jackson is not playing for the Chargers, geezus. This deal between Seattle and Jackson is dead, yet, they keep regurgitating it. This sh!+ is not what they should be reporting now. Have other teams expressed interest and are the Chargers preventing them from negotiating with Jackson? If so, why? Make AJ Smith, Jackson's agent, John Schneider and Bruce Allen to refuse comment. Then find someone, Charley Casserly perhaps, to explain this nonsense. That's what an independent media would've reported today!
     
  8. Alpenbolt

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    Maybe we shouldn't hand out the number 83 anymore. Seems to be jinxed with career ending holdouts.
     
  9. BlueandGold

    BlueandGold The Oracle

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    You ARE Vincent! :icon_rofl:

    Quick hint: 5 years 50 mil, 30 mil guaranteed is absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ricockulous.

    Lower your demands so we can trade you already. :icon_tease:
     
  10. wrbanwal

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    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/aug/23/jackson-will-miss-three-or-six-games/

    :icon_shrug: I ask???
     
  11. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    No action Jackson can rot in his living room as he has chosen. I'm tired of hearing about this no count me, me, me person. Time to move on and I ask the Mod's or site Owners to place a moratorium on anything to do with Jackson.
     
  12. CoronaDoug

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    :lol:

    lotta maybe's, soulda, coulda, woulda's when it comes to our bad Bolts

    :bolt:
     
  14. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Why, no one else can leap for a long ball?

    to be frank I would prefer someone who could catch it in stride and get yac. I like VJ, but I think PR makes him better than he would be with another QB.
     
  15. markrc99

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    Blue&Gold:

    In fact, it's you who professes some relevant connection to the team. "Lower your demands so we can trade you already." We? What exactly is your role in all this, uh sh!+haed? Your need-to-know status is all of paying exorbitant prices for pints of pisswiser and shouting obscenities. Jackson may not see that kind of money, but he already knows what Washington's offer is. Make the call already!
     
  16. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    How about this instead?

    Lower your demands so you can get paid as you want and can play this year because if you sit this season out your ability to make money will decrease dramatically!

    And dude, relax a little on the personal attacks
     
  17. wrbanwal

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    WUT??

    :icon_huh:
     
  18. CoronaDoug

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    Most likely all teams know what his demands are. That is why nobody is knocking down our door for him. Just let him wait it out at home this season. This guy is losing a good years pay.
     
  19. CoronaDoug

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    A trade for Vincent Jackson makes sense before season or not at all

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 23, 2010 6:44 PM ET
    Unsigned Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson will miss the first three games of the 2010 season because of a league suspension. When it was confirmed this weekend that he was officially placed on the roster exempt list, we asked the NFL to clarify how this coincided with his suspension.

    Here's what NFL spokesman Dan Masonson told us:

    1. Vincent Jackson's three-game Substance Abuse suspension begins once the final roster reduction takes place [6:00 PM ET on Sept. 4].

    2. Jackson is ineligible to report to the club during his suspension.

    3. As per the CBA's restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA's restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club.

    All right. This essentially means Jackson will miss three or six games if he plays this year, but not in between. If he reports to a team before September 4, he can serve his suspension and use up his three weeks on the roster exempt list at the same time. Otherwise, he can't start his roster exempt clock until his suspension is over.

    This clarification puts even more pressure for the Chargers to trade Jackson by September fourth. If he's not dealt before then, he will have to miss six games this season, lowering his trade value.

    If Jackson stays put, he'll have to report to the Chargers by the eighth week of the season or he'll lose an accrued year of NFL service.

    It's getting difficult to imagine Jackson playing for the Chargers this year, and it also doesn't make sense for a trade to happen after the season starts.

    If a team like Seattle wants Jackson, they should make the move soon or move on.


    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...kson-makes-sense-before-season-or-not-at-all/
     
  20. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Blehhh...PFT.com is ****.
     
  21. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I don't understand why the Redskins arn't right in the thick of this VJack action...

    1) They have an owner with deep pockets who spends wrecklessly.
    2) Mike Shanahan loves VJack.
    3) Mike Shanahan is also a bad judge of a character. (Javon Walker, Travis Henry, Maurice Clarette...ahemm Jay Cutler)
    4) They have no good WRs, Santana Moss is mediocre and would benefit as the #2.
    5) They need to keep up with the firepower of the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles.


    It seems like a perfect fit for me.
     
  22. markrc99

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    And there you have it. The burden of responsibility "reportedly" sits with the Chargers, as they are limiting access.
     
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    Seahawks | Brandon Jones signs
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    Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:28:13 -0400

    The Seattle Seahawks have signed free-agent WR Brandon Jones (49ers), reports ESPN.com's John Clayton, citing a source. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.



    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl#ixzz0xU2Osiyt
     

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