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Jackson trAde at impasse

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by NORV4LIFE, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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    Trade talks over Vincent Jackson are dead between the San Diego Chargers and an unnamed team after agents for the holdout wide receiver agreed on terms for a new contract with the unnamed team, a league source told ESPN.com.

    The agents for Pro Bowler Jackson and the unnamed team agreed to terms on a contract Saturday after the team was given permission by San Diego to talk to Jackson, according to the source.

    Talks ended after the Chargers and the unnamed team reached an impasse over trade compensation, according to the source. The exact compensation package San Diego is seeking is unknown, but the team does believe Jackson is a valuable player, so it's no surprise they want a lot in return for him.

    San Diego's trade demands could decrease as Jackson's holdout continues or the Chargers' could let him sit out the season. Jackson has said he is prepared to sit out the entire season.

    Jackson held out all of training camp and the preseason, seeking a five-year contract worth $50 million, with $30 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton. San Diego is balking at giving him a new deal.

    Jackson was deemed a restricted free agent due to the lack of a collective bargaining agreement in 2011. If he doesn't play in the final six games of the year, Jackson will not accrue a year toward free agency. In that case, if there is no lockout in 2011, he'll still be a restricted free agent when the 2010 season ends.

    Jackson faces a three-game suspension from the NFL after two drunken driving arrests and then must sit three more games because San Diego placed him on the roster exempt list. If he is traded, the NFL Players' Association will probably try to get Jackson off the exempt list and get him on the field after his NFL suspension is served.

    In August, San Diego gave Seattle permission to talk to Jackson, but the Seahawks could not come to an agreement with the receiver.

    Bill Williamson covers the AFC West for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press contributed to this story.
     
  2. Dublin Bolt

    Dublin Bolt BoltTalker

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    If true just more silly BS. Either he's a Charger or not. All this rubbish is a distraction we don't need. Let the guy go if you cannot pay him and someone else will. Don't ask for too much in return, you've already moved on anyway. Jeeeeeeeez.
     
  3. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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    Why reward his treachery by releasimg him? Nothing wrong with waiting this season out.
     
  4. Dublin Bolt

    Dublin Bolt BoltTalker

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    What's to gain by waiting the season out?. On both sides?. Why not get something for him and move on?. What's the best comp pick we can get anyway?. A v late 3rd?. Some team can have him for a 2nd or 3rd.
     
  5. sdbound

    sdbound Well-Known Member

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    A lot.

    It is quite possible that over the first month of the season a contender will lose it's #1 reciever and be in the market for a replacement. By that time it should start to sink into that thick skull of Jackson's how screwed he really is.

    The bottom line: Trading partner that is desperate for a #1 reciever, plus Jackson coming to his senses equals good compensation.
     
  6. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Oh nooo, not an impasse! What ever will he do? Oh, the humanity...

    Pointy
     
  7. Boltjolt

    Boltjolt Well-Known Member

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    Not what i just read on Twitter. They are saying VJ's agents arent budging much on his asking price and we are willing to take a lot less. I bet VJ's agent gave out this info in this writeup...lol, ...but who knows. Just get a 2nd and be done with it.
     
  8. DenverBolt67

    DenverBolt67 BoltTalker

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    By releasing him, you give up your right to a comp pick. We probably aren;t going to get anything more than a crappy comp pick anyways, but it is still more than we would get by releasing him. I doubt we get a 3rd round comp for him, I think it will be more likely a 4th, which is the same that we got for Micheal Turner
     
  9. BoltzRule

    BoltzRule Well-Known Member

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    Interesting Clark Judge said the opposite, basically saying the Chargers weren't the reason a deal didn't get done but the agent's demands were (his source was some NFC GM).
     
  10. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Both sides clearly are trying to leak anything possible to make It look like they weren't responsible. I'm inclined to blame both
     
  11. scratchnz

    scratchnz BoltTalker

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    I actually think that not having Jackson will allow Rivers the freedom to spread the ball around more...to all 5 receivers ala New England! Opp teams will not know who to cover...after they lock up Gates that is! hehe lol

    Man...there should be plenty of Receivers open this year...lets hope some of them are decent enough to take the opportunities...Davis and others, I'm looking at you!
     
  12. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Legs got ur back.
     
  13. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    ESPN ticker just said......
    Jackson agrees to terms with an unidentified team. Team couldn't agree with terms with the Chargers on compensation.
    Just saw it on TV

    Take it for what it is.
     
  14. foober

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    the article on espn was written by bill williamson. Who is either being paid to print inacurate material or he's just stupid. Could be both.
     
  15. foober

    foober BoltTalker

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    again. this is misinformation. For jackson to talk to any team the team would have to have an agreement for compensation before the chargers wuold allow jackson to talk to them.
     
  16. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!
    The Chargers can give permission to any team to talk contract with VJ. If they agree on a contract, then it's up to the Chargers to agree on trade compensation with that team.
     
  17. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    Yep. The trade can happen either way.
     
  18. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    Would you trade for a player that you have no contract with?
     
  19. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    That is not what I meant.

    1a) Chargers agree with a team on the compensation for a trade
    1b) The agent and team to work out the contract.

    2a) The Chargers can give permission for a GM and VJs agent to talk about a contract.
    2b) The GM can come back to the chargers and talk compensation for the trade.

    Either scenario could work or they both could crash and burn on part (b).

    It can work either way.
     
  20. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    It's what you said.

    As I asked.......
    Would you trade for a player that you didn't have a contract with?
     
  21. Shumway

    Shumway BoltTalker

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    Perhaps this is a similar strategy to the hardline stance that AJ has taken in the contract negotiations. The reason he's only allowing VJs agent to talk to a team at a time. IF the undisclosed team has agreed in principle to terms with VJ, then AJ can demand what he likes and if the undisclosed team doesn't agree, then AJ will not come back to negotiate with them. He'll just let VJs agent talk to the next team.
     
  22. Shumway

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    They don't have to formalise the trade. They can agree to the trade in principle dependant upon reaching a long term extention with the player. Kind of like buying a house subject to finance.
     
  23. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    Correct.
    But, would you make a deal if you didn't have a contract?
     
  24. Kwak

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    Not sure what you are referring to, but to answer your question. No. I would want a contract agreement in principal with the agent before completing any trade.
     
  25. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Verbal agreement in CA is considered a contract in faith, at least I got screwed on that once.
     

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