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Jesse's Mock- Take One

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Jesse Kemp, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. Jesse Kemp

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    Now that the top 20 is (basically) set-- I'm going to start putting my mock together. This will, of course, evolve throughout the season. And the remaining teams will be added as they drop. Happy to hear feedback from any and all aspiring draftniks.

    1. Houston Texans- Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville: There are two main critiques of Bridgewater floating around out there. 1) He's too skinny, and 2) He doesn't have a big arm. As for the first, he's probably right around 200 lbs now and could easily have himself at ~215 by the time his pro day comes around. And while he doesn't have a canon, he's great in the intermediate passing game (where NFL QB's make their $). His placement on deep passes is developing, but figures to get better.

    2. *Trade* Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Jadaveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina: I don't usually mock trades, but this one just makes too much sense with St. Louis in the catbird seat and Clowney dangling. The Bucs just hired Lovie Smith, whose defensive philosophy is predicated on getting pressure with his front four. What the Bucs have currently isn't going to cut it. Clowney possesses prototypical measurables, unparalleled explosiveness, fluid athleticism, and extremely active and dangerous hands.

    3. Jacksonville Jaguars- Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida: Bortles hits on a lot of the same positives as Bridgewater (pocket presence, anticipation, poise under pressure, short to intermediate accuracy), but just not to the same extent. His arm is a little bigger, which shows up in his deep ball, and he also looks the part at 6'4" 230. He needs to see the field a little bit better (he seems to throw blind on occasion), but all the tools of a franchise QB are there.

    4. Cleveland Browns- Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas AM: It's hard to project a fit without the Cleveland coaching staff being settled, but Josh McDaniel's name has been floated. We all know he isn't scared of working with unorthodox QB prospects. Manziel will need to learn patience at the next level, but you can't teach the improvisational skills he brings. His development as a passer in 2013 has gone largely unnoticed behind all his NCAA drama.

    5. Oakland Raiders- Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State: It wasn't a good bowl game for Carr, but he probably has the most raw arm talent in this class. Because of that, I think he'll show out quite well in pre-draft work outs. And one game doesn't write the book on a prospect anyways. Carr's footwork basically needs to be rebuilt so that he's throwing with a proper base, but if he gets there-- look out.

    6. Atlanta Falcons- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas AM: Atlanta's offensive line is a mess, and Matthews is arguably the best prospect left on the board. Sam Baker is completely unreliable, and even if he happens to play well again Matthews is very capable on the right side. He's a rare technician with power, nastiness, and enough athleticism to make it all work. Would not be shocking to see him play at a high level right away given his progress in college.

    7. St. Louis Rams- Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn: After trading down, the Rams address their offensive line with a guy who might just be the most athletically gifted offensive lineman in this draft. Robinson projects as being capable in any spot but center. He would presumably lock up the right tackle spot immediately, and could be the left tackle of the future. His run blocking is unparalleled, and though his pass pro needs a lot of work he certainly has all of the athleticism to develop in that regard.

    8. Minnesota Vikings- C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama: The Vikings would love to land a QB, but with the way the board has fallen that seems unlikely here (unless they love Mett-- don't rule it out). Mosley would be a great consolation at linebacker in this case. He can play MLB and WOLB, and they could use an upgrade at both positions. He would bring range and athleticism to the linebacker corps that they currently lack. And don't sleep on his ability to fill against the run. He's not going to stack and shed consistently, but he will definitely beat some blockers to their gaps.

    9. Buffalo Bills- Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo: The Bills can use another pass rusher, and Mack's versatility is going to make him very attractive to a variety of defensive schemes. He takes on blocks with authority against the run (though at times he will over-pursue). His cover skills are way ahead of the curve for college linebackers. As a pass rusher, he lacks that explosive first step, but he wins with power and flexibility. His pad level and leverage are a joy to watch.

    10. Detroit Lions- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson: Watkins is a stellar talent, and the Lions need to address the wide receiver position across from Megatron. Sammy's skill set is a perfect compliment, as he is an ultra dangerous YAC threat. Moreso than any WR prospect I've ever seen, Watkins becomes a running back in the open field once he has the ball in his hands. He squares his shoulders downfield and eats up open ground in a flash. A dangerous cross between Mike Wallace and Percy Harvin.
     
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    11. Tennessee Titans- Hasean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama: The Titans will likely be looking to get younger and more athletic at safety this offseason. And if they want to do so via the draft, they'll want to jump on Clinton-Dix quick because the talent gets really sparse after this. Dix has the versatility to play a single high role and range in center-field, or play up to the line and fill against the run. Good size, good athleticism, and good instincts.

    12. New York Giants- Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA: GM Jerry Reese doesn't care for using premium picks on linebackers, but he also covets pass rushers. So what would he do if the best pass rusher to be had is a linebacker? Barr has the explosive athleticism to play a Von-Miller style SOLB role, much like what the Giants have tried to do with Kiwanuka to little avail. Barr has issues with avoiding contact, especially in the running game, but the talent is undeniable.

    13. St. Louis Rams- Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State: Just as Janoris Jenkins began playing at a high level consistently, Cortland Finnegan fell off a cliff. Another cover corner is a huge need for St. Louis, and Dennard is a great schematic fit for them. Fisher likes to have his players in press-man. Dennard might not have great timed speed, but he has a terrific jam at the line and can stick in a receiver's hip pocket by disrupting them at the LOS.

    14. Chicago Bears- Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State: Outside of the aging Briggs, the Bears lack range and versatility at the second level. Shazier brings just that as a Lavonte David style weak outside linebacker. He projects as an excellent chase and tackle guy at the next level, and has also been very effective at timing and executing blitzes. So while he isn't the full-time pass rusher that Chicago needs, he's not totally unable to help in that regard.

    15. Pittsburgh Steelers- Louis Nix III, NT, Notre Dame: Despite the fact that they extended McClendon prior to the season, I fully expect the Steelers to take Nix if given the opportunity. Their great defenses have always been built on dominant defensive line play, and when healthy that's what Nix gives you. Knee issues slowed him down in 2013, but at 100% he's a guy that can take away the run inside and collapse the pocket.

    16. Baltimore Ravens- Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas AM: The Ravens biggest problem in 2013 was the performance of their offensive line. Oher underperformed and is now a free agent. They may be able to retain Monroe, but regardless they need to address the position. Ogbuehi has been overshadowed by Matthews this season, but he's nearly as good in protection and probably more talented. He would be able to improve the right side of the Ravens' line immediately.

    17. Dallas Cowboys- Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota: Given that Dallas needs help everywhere on defense, I'm mocking them the best defensive prospect left on the board as I see it. Hageman is still lacking in consistency, but he has rare size, strength, and length for the interior defensive line. Most men his size don't have the up-field burst that he demonstrates. He could quickly develop into an anchor for the Dallas defensive line.

    18. New York Jets- Mike Evans, WR, Texas AM: The Jets are desperate for playmakers on offense, and Evans might be just the right fit for a QB who can buy a little time and hurt defenses on come-backers. Evans also dominates at the catch point, which can end up turning a lot of incompletions/interceptions into catches.

    19. Miami Dolphins- Cyrus Kouandijo, OT, Alabama: Kouandijo's athleticism is going to be both a positive and a cause for question during the draft process. He's the prototype NFL tackle, but why have his gains on the field been so modest at Alabama? I think his athleticism is going to be too much for the OL-needy Dolphins to pass on, but they will need to coach him up because his tendency to bend at the waist and lunge gets him into trouble.

    20. Arizona Cardinals- Cameron Erving, OT, Florida State: Getting Cooper back is going to help, but the Cards really need to continue addressing the offensive line if they want Palmer's renaissance to endure. Erving will add more right away as a run blocker than he will as a pass protector, but he's much more talented than any of the options they're currently working with and could well be coached into a capable starter relatively quickly. He also offers the skillset versatility to play guard or right tackle if they need him to.
     
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    21. Green Bay Packers- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan: When totally healthy, the Packers' offensive is weakest at center where pending FA Evan Dietrich-Smith has filled in. As odd as it may sound, I believe that their center of the future is currently playing left tackle: David Bakhtiari. He has all the traits of an imposing starting pivot. His spot would then be filled by Lewan, or Bulaga if Lewan fits in on the right side. Lewan's technique is sloppy and frustrating, but Green Bay's offense is such that he can probably get by with his outstanding length. Plus he's a great run blocker, which will mesh will with the Packers new emphasis there.

    22. Philadelphia Eagles- Jason Verrett, CB, TCU: The Eagles are really in need of some secondary help, and Verrett is one of the best players on the board here. Some teams will ding him due to his size, but his play is second only to Dennard's IMO. He's a capable cover corner in both off man and zone, and isn't afraid to get physical despite his small stature. His excellent awareness and instincts show up in his propensity for locating the ball in the air and making a play on it. Should be able to contribute right away.

    23. Kansas City Chiefs- Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech: For a team that loves the short pass, the Chiefs have a serious lack of receiving ability at the tight end position. Amaro isn't going to do much blocking in-line, but he's a dynamic pass catcher in the mold of Jimmy Graham. He can eat up defenses over the middle and stretch the field up the seam. I prefer him to Ebron due to his surer hands, and that may appeal to the Chiefs as their QB already struggles with completion %.

    24. Cincinnati Bengals- Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU: The Bengals are stacked with talent on both sides of the ball, but they're currently stuck with a QB who can't take advantage. That being the case, I would not be shocked to see them jump on a prospect like Mettenberger in the first round, knowing that the odds of getting him in the 2nd are slim. Unlike Dalton, Mett can make all the throws that are asked of NFL QB's. He took huge strides in his first season under NFL caliber coaching and could really fit well into what the Bengals are trying to do on offense.
     
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    I'm saving this spot in case Emily Ratajkowski decides to pop in and sit by me.
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    Here's to hoping the Raiders make a move for a QB. I would prefer not to have Clowney 2 times a year.
     
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    Alright Charger fans, so assuming (humor me) that those are the top 20 picks who would you be looking for among those left?

    Personally, I'd be thinking Beasley, Roby, or Erving. But that could change based on how deep into playoffs we go.
     
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    1). IFO EKPRE-OLOMU, CB OREGON
    2). VIC BEASLEY OLB CLEMSON
    3). TAYLOR LEWAN OT MICHIGAN
     
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    I want another tackle from Alabama for the left side. I can't spell the guys name, but I hope like hell he plays with the same tenacity that Big Fluke shows up with.
     
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    And personally, if Brent Hundley comes out, he might give Bridgewater a run for that #1 spot.
     
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    Here's another thing, do you really think the Rams will trade out the #2 slot? I don't think they have that much faith in Bradford or Clemons.
     
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    Okay, Ant…I make no secret of the fact that I'm not one to spend a lot of time on mockage,
    (I just have time limits, and since 95+% of these guys will never wear bolts…)
    but I do pay a little attention, when a young guy seems likely to become a Charger…
    so, that said, I'll give you Beasley & Lewan…fine.
    But "IFO EKPRE-OLOMU" ?!? C'mon!
    That's no prospect, that's just a random selection of Scrabble tiles you had after the Chinese food Wednesday…
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    There's already rumors that they're taking offers for the #2 spot. When Bradford went down, he was on pace for 3900 yards, 32 TD, and 9 INT. Definitely good enough with a solid defense and running game.

    I've heard that NFL scouts like Hundley. But it's hard to know whether or not you can trust those rumors. All I know personally is that he needs a ton of work in the passing game. Doesn't mean he can't be a 1st round pick like Manuel though. But I don't think he enters.

    And Kouandijo is the guy you're talking about. Prototype LT athletically, but technique can get really sloppy. Certainly wouldn't be a bad pick, but I have him being picked before us here.
     
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    I'm high on Beasley for a number of reasons.

    But Lewan is an overrated waist bender. He drops his head on contact and gets beat by speed. Decent run blocker, but his technique in pass pro is bad. No thanks.

    And I think Olomu is overrated. Decent zone cover, but he allows too much to be completed into his coverage. I don't think he has the athleticism to be much of a man corner. Gets burned too much in the short to intermediate game.
     
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    4 straight picks of QBs? I don't know if teams will pass on Jadeveon Clowney like that.
     
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    Wow, it feels like the draft is setting up pretty much perfectly for us with some depth at pass rusher and cornerback, also along the OL.

    Hard to go too far wrong with Beasley or Erving. Tempted by Roby, but had been hoping he'd slide to our Rd 2 pick when I expected us to be picking earlier in each round. Feels like a 2nd round risk reward to me.

    I'm gonna at Beasley. But so many options. Still have Jeffcoat or Attoachu as pass rushers in later rounds.
     
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    Jacksonville drafts BPA - it's ingrained in their GM's DNA. I really do get that QB is a massive need for them (the biggest), but I honestly wouldn't be shocked if with Bridgewater and Bortles gone they wouldn't take Clowney on a BPA basis at #3 and then target their QB at the top of the 2nd (or possibly trade up from there back into the bottom of the 1st to ensure); someone the like of Wyoming's Brett Smith, Eastern Illinois' Jimmy Garoppolo, or even AJ McCarron.
     
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    Everything I've heard is that Attaochu is a HOT name that's extremely highly thought of among the pro ranks. It sounding like it won't be a shock at all if by the end of the draft process he's looked at as a formidable 1st round prospect. With the fact that we're going to be picking in at the earliest the mid-20's, assuming all test/workout like I expect them to, I'm quite fine with any of Beasley, Murphy or Attaochu - and might even lean towards snatching at Attaochu's ceiling since we would have the luxury (with Freeney on the roster) of not having to ask him to start as a rookie and play largely as a pass-rushing specialist while learning the position.
     
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    I hope the Raiders don't get Clowney, firstly because if he is what people hype him to be then they;d be getting a good player. The most important reason though is not that. The best thing about the Raiders in the draft is the look on their fans' faces when the pick is announced and it's never who they want / expect. I laugh almost every year at that moment.

    On the more important subject, with the 32nd overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft (hopefully not through trading down), I'm hoping that the Chargers can watch and gladly take Erving or Beasley if they fall.
     
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    What would you say makes Attaochu's ceiling higher than Beasley's?
     
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    I know that he's a hot name with the pro's, but i just dont see it. Every time i see him getting pressure its either on an inside stunt or its unblocked. His explosion off the edge seems average, and he looks shorter than 6'3". He plays really weak, where punches by TE's or RB's will severely throw him off course, and once a OT gets locked onto him, he's done rushing the passer it seems like. That said, his flexibility off the edge is incredible, speed is very good and seems to have long arms. He also has an incredible motor. But i just dont see his upside being that big, especially not over a guy like Beasley.
     
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    A lot of it's physical. They look to have very, very similar explosiveness (will be really interesting to track the 10-yard split times and the "burst"-testing drills like the vert and broad jumps on the pair) but Attaochu does it with superior length, size, and with greater potential to be bigger than Beasley probably ever could get without losing athleticism. Attaochu at 242 still looks lean - which leads me to believe he could make the low 260's without sacrificing athleticism (which he has in SPADES) without difficulty. Beasley is presently an inch shorter, with shorter arms (note: Not "short arms," just visibly shorter compared to Attaochu's)and where he lacks some of his bulk is in his upper legs (not likely, but possible that that could sap some athleticism). Functionally, I think Beasley is stronger right now - and certainly plays like it - I just believe Attaochu has the capacity to actually be stronger after development has completed.

    Really I love them both, just that if it comes down to splitting hairs I prefer to lean towards the guy who shows the capacity to have more variety of ways to beat guys (speed, power, length - he just needs to learn to use it more efficiently). Either one would be a quality addition to our team - each coming from a program with a pedigree of producing quality NFL pass-rushers.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for the response.

    I pretty much agree, though I personally think that Beasley looks and plays larger than 6'2" 235, so I will be interested to see how he comes in during the postseason stuff. His hands are definitely better than Jeremiah's at this point, which allows him to disengage rather than get locked up. Where I see the biggest difference is in that first step explosion. Beasley looks prescient at times, while Attaochu is typically quite good but not on the same level. Both bend nicely.

    The weigh in will be important for Vic. But if he comes in at 240 or larger and still registers the explosion numbers in workouts that we all would expect, it's a pretty easy call for me.
     
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    His first step is pretty sick. And he's raw for days - really limited PR moves, tries to use speed as his go-to option way too much, doesn't use his length well, doesn't get skinny or protect his body from blockers. That said, the raw claw is there. I feel like you're underselling his first step (he made Menelik Watson look foolish several times last year), and his closing speed is aggro (his ability to double-clutch and jump gears in a breath is something I really love). His technique is... blah, but when his hands - if sloppy in terms of placement - is violent. A lot of his flaws are the same ones we were both picking out in Keke Mingo's game last year; like Mingo, he needs to develop a counter-move and use his long arms better to keep blockers from getting to his pads, and he could really take off at the next level.

    And yes, he's shorter than 6'3" (6'2" and change), but in the same respect Beasley is shorter than 6'2" (6'1" and change).
     
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    He does stunt and loop a whole lot. Which is obviously a schematic function. But once or twice a game, he'll show that prototypical arc rush with a nice get off, good angle, shoulder dip, and excellent bend. Even though he doesn't do that as often as I'd like, I can understand how a scout would see that and project.

    But 1st round is too rich for me. I see much more value in waiting to see if someone in the Beasley, Ford, Attaochu, Lynch group is there in round 2. And then I've yet to watch more that a snippet here or there on Chris Smith and Marcus Smith.
     
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    Just digging into a little bit of Marcus Smith and I already want to quit. Did anyone ever even try and block him? Basically I'm finding out that he can run relatively fast in a straight line right into the quarterback as long as anyone doesn't get in his way.
     
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    Lol. You and me both.

    There's obviously more to him, but he's hard to get a read on him because he doesn't often have to win through contact.
     
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    It's why I wouldn't depend on him as "the guy" from the draft. He's really, really raw - can't shed blocks to save his life right now. That said... 5th round and he's still around - I'm not opposed to doubling up on pass-rushers (any competitive team should be at least 3-deep at starting-capable guys realistically) if his upside offres more value than a player at another position might to us. He's got massive project written all over him - and one I'm not terribly convinced Joe Barry is the guy to develop - but if you can, give this year's Alamo Bowl another watch - Smith flashes. Not as someone I'd invest a pick on the first 2 days in... but I'd still venture to favor him on Day 3 over similarly-rated prospects in say Trevor Reilly, Prince Shembo, Tyler Starr, or James Gayle.

    CBS has him as a Day 2 guy... I don't see that, except maybe on athletic upside (he should run, measure, and jump well - the drills... not so much unless he makes some major strides in his combine prep). If I'm spending a Day 2 pick on the position, I'd sooner look to Demarcus Lawrence or Shaquil Barrett (who CBS is massively sleeping on - which is reason enough for me to discount the stock I can put in their Day 2 grade on Smith).
     
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