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  1. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    Reminding everybody why we love Ryan Mathews so much.

     
  2. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    I really like the way he progresses "forward" even when he has to move outside to avoid defenders. Runs down hill...I like that!:tup:

    Also very aggressive near the end zone. :yes:
     
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  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Not very flashy, just a guy who handles his business.:yes:
     
  4. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    Yep...just get the yards!:tup:
     
  5. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    The Boise game was pretty flashy :nana_dance: 3 70yd TD runs :thumbup:
     
  6. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Man, the level of butthurtitude is gonna be so high when we don't draft him at all.
     
  7. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    :beat: Why you gotta hate?
     
  8. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    Pissing in the cheerios again...
     
  9. Dublin Bolt

    Dublin Bolt BoltTalker

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    Does he only have 1 T in his lastname?.

    He runs v upright doesn't he?, ala Peterson without the absolute burst. I dunno I'm not 100% sold on him and I still cannot see us picking him at 28, and he will be probably gone by 40.
     
  10. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    when was the last time AJ took someone ANY of us expected/wanted?

    I would be thrilled if we got him, I just don't think we will :icon_shrug:
     
  11. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Merriman? A lot of people wanted him.

    Leisure love Cro's bubble as I recall...
     
  12. CoronaDoug

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    That image is haunting! :icon_eek:
     
  13. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    Neither do I. Dreamers dream...
     
  14. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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  15. Rainman

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    ...or was that "Whizzing in the Wheaties"? :icon_shrug:

    "Peeing in the Post Toasties"? :icon_huh:

    "Crapping in the Corn Flakes"? :icon_banana:
     
  16. foober

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    just keep an open mind about what new rb's we get. Good draft to get a couple of good rb's.:yes:
     
  17. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    If this guy could just stay healthy...
     
  18. Alpenbolt

    Alpenbolt BoltTalker

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    Two things.

    1. Just how bad are defenses in the WAC? Good lord.

    2. He seemed to pull away from quite a few DBs once he got in the secondary. That is a pretty fast 220 pounder.
     
  19. CasualKnowledge

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    Or those are some slow DBs. Some are claiming Toby Gerhart is a bigger version of Hester. I don't see much from Ryan Mathews that shows me he's not just a faster hester.
     
  20. Buck Melanoma

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    The NFP Super 30

    A look at the draft’s top prospects, starting with Ndamukong Suh.
    Wes Bunting
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    With more pro days comes more reshuffling in the NFP’s newest Super 30, as we hit the home stretch toward draft day.

    1. DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6-4, 302)
    Potential blue-chip defensive tackles are tough to come by, and Suh grades out as this year’s best player.

    2. DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (6-4, 298)
    McCoy has the ability to consistently beat blocks vs. both the run and pass game and is one of the few instant impact-caliber defenders in this year’s draft.

    3. S Eric Berry, Tennessee (5-11, 203)
    One of the most instinctive safeties to come along in years; looks like a real ball-hawk type of defensive back at the next level.

    4. C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida (6-5, 304)
    Exhibits a unique combination of power and fluidity for his size and is capable of starting from day one and becoming one of the premier players at this position in the NFL.

    5. ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama (6-4, 256)
    Possesses an impressive athletic skill set for the position and has the ability to instantly contribute in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme.

    6. TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida (6-2, 250)
    A potential dynamic threat in the pass game at the next level in the Dallas Clark-type mold.

    7. OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State (6-5, 302)
    Looks effortless in pass protection, plays with great length and is the draft’s most NFL-ready left tackle.

    8. RB Jahvid Best, California (5-10, 199)
    The one guy everyone seems to have forgotten because of concussion issues. But he’s a big-play threat every time he touches the ball and is a much better runner between the tackles than given credit for.

    9. OG Mike Iupati, Idaho (6-5, 330)
    Makes everything look so easy inside. Possesses an impressive blend of size, power and fluidity for the position and looks like one of the better offensive guard prospects to come along in years.


    10. RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson (5-11, 195)
    A similar prospect to Cal’s Jahvid Best, but he seems to be getting more attention because of a possible East Coast bias. Looks like a Felix Jones-type back at the next level.

    11. WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (6-2, 220)
    Bryant isn’t a 4.6 guy on tape -- like he ran Tuesday at this pro day -- and straight-line speed isn’t the concern I have with him. It’s his work rate and preparation. How hard did he really train for his pro day, and is he willing to put in the work needed to be great in the NFL? Those are questions I have.

    12. QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (6-4, 236)
    He was absolutely brilliant at his pro day this week, displaying the accuracy, arm strength and frame to project as a potential franchise quarterback.

    13. OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa (6-6, 312)
    Never quite regained his form from 2008, but he now looks healthy and is certainly capable of anchoring the left side of an NFL offensive line for years.

    14. DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (6-3, 266)
    Possesses the tools to get after the quarterback in a variety of ways off the edge and looks like an ideal fit as an every-down defensive end in a 4-3 scheme.

    15. DT Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-5, 301)
    Plays bigger than his frame indicates and does a great job firing off the snap, gaining initial leverage and finding the ball inside. Has the versatility to play as a three or five technique in the NFL, which further adds to his value.

    16. CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State (5-10, 186)
    Showcases impressive balance and footwork in and out of his breaks and is as polished as any cornerback in this year’s class. Looks ready to compete for an NFL starting job from day one.

    17. OG/OT John Jerry, Ole Miss (6-6, 332)
    Possesses impressive lateral quickness and athleticism for a man his size; looks like a Leonard Davis-type guard in the NFL.

    18. CB Joe Haden, Florida (5-11, 190)
    An athletic, long-armed corner who has the burst to consistently click and close on the football. However, he has some spots in his game that need polish when asked to turn and run.

    19. OLB Jerry Hughes, TCU (6-2, 255)
    An ideal 3-4 OLB prospect who has the first step, body control and short-area quickness to beat blocks and get after the passer in a variety of ways off the edge.

    20. DT Brian Price, UCLA (6-2, 300)
    A powerful interior lineman who does a great job firing off the snap on time inside and using his length to fight his way into the backfield. Looks like a disruptive force at the next level as a one-gapping nose.

    21. OLB/DE Brandon Graham, Michigan (6-1, 263)
    One of the most NFL-ready players in the draft. Possesses only an above-average first step, but it’s his power, leverage and suddenness on contact that make him so tough to block off the edge. Has the versatility to play a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE.

    22. OT Charles Brown, USC (6-5, 292)
    He not only exhibits the footwork to consistently mirror in pass protection, but he’s also very natural on the move in the run game and looks ideally suited to play left tackle in a zone-blocking scheme.

    23. OC Matt Tennant, Boston College (6-4, 300)
    He isn’t the sexiest of prospects, but he’s a tough, technically sound center who looks capable of coming in and starting from day one.

    24. FS Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech (6-1, 210)
    A talented ball-hawking safety with impressive instincts and range in the center field-type role. Projects as a potential impact-caliber defensive back.

    25. RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech (5-11, 230)
    A violent runner who exhibits a good feel between the tackles and has the initial burst to separate from defenders into the second level. Will only get better running in a more traditional NFL offense.

    26. DT Terrence Cody, Alabama (6-4, 349)
    He might have some weight issues, but all the guy does is make everyone around him better; looks like an ideal 3-4 nose tackle who can anchor a defense inside.

    27. WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois (6-1, 219)
    Isn’t the most explosive vertical threat, but he knows how to separate underneath, is a load to bring down after the catch and might be the most NFL-ready wideout in this year’s class.

    28. CB Devin McCourty, Rutgers (5-11, 193)
    A tall, well-built cornerback with good physicality, balance and footwork for the position. Looks comfortable in both press and off-man and projects as a potential starter early in his career.

    29. DT Dan Williams, Tennessee (6-2, 327)
    Possesses an impressive lower body and knows how to disengage at the point and make plays away from his frame. However, he doesn’t display the type of power to consistently hold up vs. the double team to call him an elite prospect.

    30. OLB Daryl Washington, TCU (6-2, 230)
    Makes plays sideline to sideline, showcases better instincts than given credit for and knows how to tackle in space and in a phone booth. An ideal 4-3 weak-side linebacker in the NFL who should mature into a starter early in his career.



    Notice anyone missing? :icon_tease:

    Opinions & assh.oles, folks.
     
  21. bigmike.x.09

    bigmike.x.09 Well-Known Member

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    Which is why I like Dwyer. I will take someone from the ACC over the WAC and Pac-10 any day because they breed em big in the south and they have some real hitters down south.
     
  22. coachmarkos

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    I like Matthews, I do.

    But if we select him, my biggest worry is his injury report
    And the way he runs upright. And I know some people argue that fact, that he isn't that upright... He's 6'0 and Dwyer is 5'11" and if you watch highlights of them back to back...Matthews looks WAY taller on tape. He just does.

    I'll admit it, I'm no expert, so maybe it's all about nothing...but if a guy looks that much taller, maybe he is running upright?

    And I'm not proposing Dwyer over Matthews, just comparing the running styles, that's all.
     
  23. scratchnz

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    Not sold on him yet.

    Injury Prone...solid but not spectacular.

    Would be a solid 2-3 pick...not enough about him to be a true number 1 pick.

    I just feel like there are better players available that we can pick up in the first round.

    There are plenty of running backs in this draft in the later rounds that will do the job for us.
     
  24. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    LT came from the WAC.:icon_shrug:

    I'll take a guy that is productive in a real pro offense over a guy who played fullback in the run friendly triple option scheme, a scheme you will never see in the NFL. Dwyer is the RB version of Tim Tebow.
     
  25. CasualKnowledge

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    Keep shrugging, Mathews isn't LT, TCU ain't WAC anymore, and we've seen all the moves Ryan has to offer (as in LT showed 10x more in NFL than he did in college). Dwyer is almost as overhyped as Mathews, but has more potential to keep a play going. Not sure that is a god thing for this team, don't need a rookie RB trying to win a game by himself. We want Tate. That is all.
     
  26. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Dwyer is no longer overhyped, as most seem to have him rated as a mid 3rd round pick.:yes:

    Tate is the ultimate sucker pick.:lol: Nobody had this guy going higher than the 4th round before the combine, then he posts some good numbers and now he's the flavor of the week. I don't buy it, but go ahead and drink the koolaide if you want.
     
  27. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    LT and Ryan posted very similar numbers in their junior years. LT had 1800 yds and 18 tds, Ryan Mathews had 1800 yds and 19 tds. LT's senior year was his heisman year that got everybody hyped about him yet Ryan isn't going to have a senior year, as he is coming out for the draft. I'm pretty sure Ryan wouldve had a heisman year too if he stayed at Fresno a year longer. Plus, what we need as of now is a running back who gets it done and can break arm tackles and keep the pile moving, yet still break away from the defense (I just described Ryan Mathews).

    I wouldn't be opposed to getting Dwyer, but only if we get him 3rd round or later. He hasn't proven he can run the ball well when lining up 5 yards behind the line.

    Tate, on the other hand, is a guy that I like but he wouldn't be worth our 40th pick. I like Gerhart a lot better than Dwyer and Tate
     
  28. coachmarkos

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    Very true.

    Matthews is very intriguing, but LT did not have those injury problems.

    I complete agree on Tate.

    I like Dwyer better than Gerhart.

    And I'll be cheering for any one of them if they are wearing bolts.
     
  29. CasualKnowledge

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    Kind of hard to get burned taking a physical and fast RB with some actual NFL like cuts in the 3rd or 4th round, so not sure how Tate is a sucker pick. Dwyer is still showing up in late 1st and early 2nd on some mocks, and is still considered top 3 or 4 RB.
     
  30. CasualKnowledge

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    You described Mathews in college, except that he can't keep a pile moving. He's shown he can break away from WAC level linebackers. I still don't see that same potential in the NFL. Only time will tell.
     

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