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Kill all the lawyers?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Lawyers are trying to persuade players to stand firm
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 27, 2011, 8:30 PM EDT


    So what did today’s meeting between a handful of players and their legal representatives mean?

    We’re told, by a reliable source (as opposed to our usual unreliable sources), that the lawyers are hoping to persuade the players not to roll over in talks with the owners.

    “Rolling over,” of course, is in the eye of the beholder. And the beholders in this case are the lawyers, primarily Jeffrey Kessler and Jim Quinn. If they don’t like where things are headed, look for more leaks along the lines of the Osi Umenyiora affidavit that curiously emerged after Kessler and Quinn were kicked out of the negotiating room a second time.

    The problem is that, by all appearances, more and more players want to get a deal done. If/when it appears that progress has stopped and the start of the regular season is in jeopardy, a revolt remains possible. In the end, a revolt may be necessary; lawyers work for their clients, and sometimes the lawyers need to be reminded of that fact, in no uncertain terms.
     
  2. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I resent that remark
     
  3. Buck Melanoma

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    And many of us resent your profession.
     
  4. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Get over it.
     
  5. Boltzlover

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    And I thought you represented that remark.
     
  6. Blue Bolt

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    It was a question, not a remark....... what's the matter, don't you like Shakespeare? ;)
     
  7. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I like shakespeare when we focuses on things he better understands like tragedy ;-)
    And I know alot of people hate my profession, so it's my goal to be a better attorney to make up for it
     
  8. Concudan

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    THERES ONE NOW!


    Get a rope!
     
  9. Buck Melanoma

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    Just think - kill all the lawyers, we get rid of a good portion of lobbyists & politicians as well.

    To hell with a rope - pass me that napalm!
     
  10. Concudan

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    Burn Baby Burn...
     
  11. DenverBolt67

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    You also get rid of all people who represent the poor when they get screwed over by billion dollar companies.

    Juts pointing out that not all lawyers are bad, and not all simply do bad things
     
  12. Buck Melanoma

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    I'm well aware of that, junior. Don't get on your ******* high-horse with me.

    Get a sense of humor or step the **** off - I'm not in the mood for your ****.
     
  13. DenverBolt67

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    Wow, someone just went on the defensive. I apologize if I pushed a button
     
  14. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    That time of the month brutha Buck?! :lol:

    *dont hit me in the face, I am much to pritty!*
     
  15. wrbanwal

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    you have more than one???

    :icon_shrug:


    :flag:
     
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  17. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Do you know what the difference between a lawyer and a bucket of **** is?
     
  18. Buck Melanoma

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    You know what's eating at me. And it's a long way from being resolved.
     
  19. Concudan

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    I know bro, just trying to lighten the mood. Usually I am the angry poster, I just was a bit afraid of the competition.... ;)

    I will call you tonight.
     
  20. Blue Bolt

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    Kill All The Lawyers: Part 2

    As talks reach boiling point, Kessler, Quinn face a dilemma
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 2, 2011, 12:32 PM EDT


    For weeks, the owners have been leery of the lawyers representing the players in their legal challenge against the league. The concern has been that Jeffrey Kessler and Jim Quinn prefer to push the Tom Brady antitrust lawsuit to a conclusion, even if it means missing an entire season. Then, with a verdict that easily could exceed $10 billion, the players possibly could acquire partial ownership of the league itself.

    But, again, that approach requires a full season to be lost.

    And so the league has believed that, with progress being made between the two sides in recent weeks, Kessler and Quinn have been trying to derail the process. The fact that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith at one point last month told Kessler and Quinn to “stand down” shortly after they re-entered the room seemed to confirm that the lawyers, regardless of their actual motivations, were an impediment to the process.

    After Thursday night’s midnight-oil bargaining session, which Kessler missed because his other clients — the NBA Players Association — were in the process of being locked out, there are strong indications that progress once again is being made. And with the next week being critical to the question of whether a deal will be completed in time to salvage the full $800 million generated by the preseason, Kessler and Quinn face a dilemma.

    On one hand, they can spend the Fourth of July weekend trying to rally members of the Executive Committee and other key players to resist agreeing to the terms offered by the league. If that delays the finalization of a new CBA beyond the point at which the full preseason can be played, the total dollars paid to the players for 2011 necessarily will drop, possibly making the players even less inclined to do a deal. If, however, enough of the players rally around De Smith and support finalizing the negotiations over pursuing litigation, Kessler and Quinn will be extremely vulnerable to termination of their relationship with the NFLPA* once the asterisk is removed and labor peace is restored.

    On the other hand, Kessler and Quinn can choose to support Smith’s approach, hopeful that he’ll decide in the aftermath of a new CBA that the lawyers helped generate leverage for an agreement and, when the time came to close the deal, they stepped aside and allowed the process to reach a conclusion. That way, their stream of high-dollar legal fees will continue as issues inevitably arise under the next labor deal.

    One source with knowledge of the dynamics believes that Kessler and Quinn will choose the latter approach, cognizant of the reality that, if they try to take on Smith directly, they’ll fail — and they’ll eventually get fired. The league surely fears that the lawyers will opt instead to try to undo the progress that was made on Thursday, in the hopes of running out the clock and better positioning the process for litigation, not negotiation.

    Regardless, the strategy the lawyers ultimately select could go a long way toward determining whether or not we’ll have football in 2011.
     

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