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King James’ arrival in L.A. puts Bolts further down line

Discussion in 'American Football' started by RaiderRay, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. RaiderRay

    RaiderRay RIP SD Chargers..Go Any SD Team, Go Raiders Staff Member Administrator Podcaster

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    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...p-canepa-column-chargers-20180708-story.html#

    Dan Fouts isn’t on the Chargers’ Mount Rushmore. He’s Mount Fouts, by himself. The Beard National Park.

    He refuses to be on any peak — this L.A. one being more of a messy ant hill, really — with the Judases at its base camp.

    “Don’t ever refer to me as a Los Angeles Charger,” Fouts said last week on 1090 Radio’s “Ben & Woods” show.

    Well, he isn’t, nor should he be. Fouts, who probably knows that things will only get worse for the one NFL team that employed him, did play in L.A. — against the Raiders and Rams — and that’s it.

    Did Johnny Unitas think of himself as an Indianapolis Colt? Does Earl Campbell see himself as a Tennessee Titan?

    Of course, last year Fouts called what the Judases were doing following their move to Carson and the Costa Mesa Lima Bean Farm an embarrassment.

    We see shots of DeanFredo Spanos’ sons, John and A.G., at the Inglewood stadium construction site — posing, as the final steel beam is being put in place, as if they’re paying for it.

    They should take a photo looking for the pot they don’t have to urinate in.

    They are renters. They are the Ricardos, and Stan Kronke is their Fred Mertz. And, unlike Lucy and Ricky, they never are going to be owners. Not in L.A., they’re not.

    Their “Fight for L.A.” already having ended in a first-round knockout, one can only wonder how DeanFredo & Sons view the Lakers’ signing of LeBron James. That is, if somebody has told them yet.

    It did nothing but shove La Famiglia Spanos deeper into the La Brea Tar Pits.

    Really, where do they stand? I put the Lakers, Dodgers, USC, UCLA, Rams, Angels, Clippers, Kings, Ducks and Galaxy (who draw more fans in StubYourToeHub Center) in front of them, maybe Los Angeles FC, not to mention Rose Bowl game reruns, Mater Dei and Long Beach Poly highs.

    The Judases left a city that they absolutely owned for 30 pieces of silver they may never pocket to go someplace where they are about as wanted as a bad muffler.

    What we are looking at here may be The Greatest Mistake in the History of Team Sports. If not, as I say, it’s leaning at the tape.

    If Dean is too proud and stubborn to sell, maybe his family can tell him to get out.

    Certainly, in the history of bad marketing, their work has surpassed New Coke, and DeanFredo sending his sons to the Inglewood site in hard hats only adds to the legend.

    I’d like to believe somebody up there is capable of clear thought, but that’s just me being unusually stupid.

    Was one bit of research even attempted prior to this move to an area not even thrilled about the Rams’ return? There isn’t a nut on earth tougher to crack than the L.A. sports market — especially if you’re a “poor billionaire,” like DeanFredo.

    He doesn’t have real L.A. money. Even Donald T. Sterling could buy Spanos with money he left on his dresser. And that was before he was forced to sell his Clippers for about a 2,500 percent profit.

    I hate to compare anyone with Sterling, who is totally unique in all the world, but in a way Spanos reminds me of him. Absolutely nothing embarrassed Sterling, even the futility of his Clips for like 30 years.

    DeanFredo seems immune to the embarrassment his franchise has become in a town where box-office failure doesn’t go over well.

    Forbes figures that the franchise has increased $500 million in value since the move. And it’s hard to believe there will be a dramatic rise from that any time soon, with all that’s going on around the Judases.

    This season should be the tell, because it looks like they’re going to be pretty good — if they stay healthy, an annual issue (they’ve already lost tight end Hunter Henry for the year) — maybe real good.

    With a kicker who would have been a high school backup, they would have made the playoffs a year ago. The TommyJohn general manager tandem has done a good job. This is one of The League’s better rosters. Their window has reopened.

    But the Rams have deeper roots in Southland soil, and they’re pretty good, too.

    The J’s couldn’t sell out StubYourToeHub during their maiden voyage in L.A. waters — without tremendous help from visiting fans, they may not have averaged 15,000 people a game. They still must play two more seasons there.

    They became a laughingstock, which they should have figured could become a possibilty, but didn’t have the smarts to do so. I told them they would fail, and I don’t have a clue. Sophomoric marketing just made matters worse.

    Now they have LeBron taking over the town — and he will do that in a city where stardom has mattered for a century. Philip Rivers is by far the Judases’ biggest star, and he wants nothing to do with L.A.

    I’m thinking that, when Rivers retires, he’ll say, “I never was a Los Angeles Charger.”

    Thank God he’s a country boy.
     
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  2. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl BoltTalker

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    I agree with most of that writing. Rivers is a sellout though. He is worse than Gates. At least Antonio defied his coach's b.s. order by attending fellow sellout Tomlinson's Hall of Fame induction. Rivers couldn't even do that much. He needs to move out of San Diego to make room for people who appreciate it.
     
  3. Fender57

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    I personally don’t see Rivers saying he was never a Los Angeles Charger, mostly because it would be a lie.
     
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    Rivers is a paid representative of the Los Angeles Spanoses. In other words, he's a sellout. Long live, Dan Fouts.
     
  5. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
    GREAT article by Nick Canepa......that is a true gem. I used to really get on Canepa for his sucking up to aj. He has rebounded and gone above and beyond anything before with this article. He has re-earned my total respect with that......spoken like a true San Diegan. Make that man an honorary administrator of America's Finest Sports Forum! Way to go Nick! Oh,,,,,,,,and one more thing.....FUDEAN. :D
     
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  6. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    Gotta LOVE this part, cuts like a knife right to the truth:

    We see shots of DeanFredo Spanos’ sons, John and A.G., at the Inglewood stadium construction site — posing, as the final steel beam is being put in place, as if they’re paying for it.

    They should take a photo looking for the pot they don’t have to urinate in.

    They are renters. They are the Ricardos, and Stan Kronke is their Fred Mertz. And, unlike Lucy and Ricky, they never are going to be owners. Not in L.A., they’re not.


    Was one bit of research even attempted prior to this move to an area not even thrilled about the Rams’ return? There isn’t a nut on earth tougher to crack than the L.A. sports market — especially if you’re a “poor billionaire,” like DeanFredo.

    He doesn’t have real L.A. money. Even Donald T. Sterling could buy Spanos with money he left on his dresser. And that was before he was forced to sell his Clippers for about a 2,500 percent profit.

    I hate to compare anyone with Sterling, who is totally unique in all the world, but in a way Spanos reminds me of him. Absolutely nothing embarrassed Sterling, even the futility of his Clips for like 30 years.
     
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  7. RamAirVA

    RamAirVA New Name, Same Attitude

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    Great read. And gotta love MFIC, he is staking out his position and standing by it.

    Love PR, but he ain't MFIC. I feel PR wouldn't badmouth anyone, even if he really thinks it. It's a Southern thing.
     
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  8. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    The contrast between the MFIC and Rivers couldn't be more stark. Just as one example, when Fouts was in his playing days, he made no bones about letting ownership know he was displeased, didn't mind ruffling feathers.......he in no uncertain terms let Klein know of his displeasure with letting JJ go. Just one example. The other is he hired a tough as nails agent who was a major pain in the *** of Klein and Fouts never caved to ownership. PR on the other hand would never have the nerve to be that contentious and speak up against ownership. Difference in character/fortitude.....it even shows up in the playing. IMO if PR had to play during the Fouts era and endure the punishment QB's took in those days, he'd not fare very well.
     
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    The difference between Fouts and Rivers is Fouts can no longer control his desire to win a Ring.
    Rivers can, but won't
     
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    A bag of crap would push Costa Mesa further down the totem pole.
     
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    Harryo the K Well-Known Member

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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    The greatest difference between Foutsy and Rivers is, Rivers had a SB appearance on the hook until one Marlon spit the hook out.
     
  15. RaiderRay

    RaiderRay RIP SD Chargers..Go Any SD Team, Go Raiders Staff Member Administrator Podcaster

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    Fouts was in the AFC Championship a couple of times.
     
  16. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    yup,,,,,,the one that really got away was at CIN........that was their year......but the Ice Bowl and mother nature looked down and decided to give CIN a break.
     
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    A Packer fan blaming “Mother Frukin' Frozen Tundra Nature” for a loss. :laugh:

    Hard 2 Believe.
     
  18. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    lolz....come ON......39 below (or whatever it was) ??? Lambeau is like a sauna compared with that in January;)
     
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    Chargers defense couldn’t get the job done against Oakland in 1980.
     
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    1. True. Offsides lost it.

    2. Wild card was a lame idea in the NFL. We were the champs of the division, but the Raiders were the league champs. It didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now. Of course, the dumbasses at MLB decided to add wildcards as well. If 162 games isn't proof enough of who is best in a division, the sports world is insane.
     
  21. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    I was also disappointed in the WR's allowing themselves to get roughed up by the defenders like Lester Hayes....they got intimidated. But that very first play by the D.....I think it was Carlos Polk who deflected the ball near the LOS and it took a bounce downfield in the air and the Raider TE (forgot the name) (no I didn't, Raymond Chester LOL) took it to the house, first play of the game IIRC. Not a good way to start. From that point on it was like the Chargers were intimidated or playing too tight. Raiders of course had nothing to lose, had come up as a wild card.
     
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    It was Woodrow Lowe who deflected it I think. That was an ominous way to start the game. The Raiders simply wanted it more.
     
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    Rivers has chosen to be on a team that just about everyone but a few jaded individuals recognizes is one of the most talented in the NFL. The Chargers are likely to win the AFCW in 2018 and the AFC is weaker than the NFC, which increases Rivers' chances of getting to the Super Bowl. Even the betting public of very few Chargers fans (anti-Chargers bias) sees the team as a top 8 betting favorite to win the Super Bowl.
     
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  24. RaiderRay

    RaiderRay RIP SD Chargers..Go Any SD Team, Go Raiders Staff Member Administrator Podcaster

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    Yeah, but this Spanos owned franchise has proven time and time again that they can't get it done. So I'll go with those odds.
     
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    Responding to the original title of the thread, how does the arrival of LeBron James adversely impact the Chargers? The Lakers are already well established. The Chargers were on the latest Forbes top 50 list, but only 4th in Los Angeles behind the Lakers, Rams and Dodgers, but ahead of the Clippers and Angels in team value. Had James gone to the Clippers, that may have had more of an impact in terms of the relative position of the Chargers.

    Moreover, LeBron is not going to do much else in the way of NBA titles for the rest of his career if the NBA rosters stay close to what they are now. The Lakers are not in a good position to win the Western Conference in the foreseeable future. Barring major injury, the Warriors look like a solid bet to win in 2018-19 as they are hugely improved with the addition of Cousins, a very good big man, the one thing they have been missing during all of these years of their championship run.
     
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    Every year, there are 32 teams that are competing to win the Super Bowl, so the odds are always against any one team relative to the whole league. So all a player can do is to put himself on a good team that is in a good position to win. Rivers has done that. If a player could go as a free agent to any team with idea of maximizing his opportunity to win a Super Bowl this year, the Chargers would be high up among the potential team destinations given a good path to win the division and what appears to be an easier path in the AFC to the Super Bowl.

    Even then, things have to break right for a team to win the Super Bowl. The Eagles, who just won their first Super Bowl, could have just as easily lost to the Falcons in the playoffs if Jones did not slip coming out of his break on the 4th down play late in the 4th quarter. As it was, it was still a close call on that play as the Falcons just missed getting the TD that would have put them ahead with only a minute to go. But it did not happen and the rest is history.

    The window is pretty wide open for the Chargers for the first time in nearly a decade. The Chargers are now a team of real talent (unlike the 2013 team that got every ounce out of its ability) for the first time in nearly a decade. But it is more than that. Now, one can clearly see that Telesco has the ability to make strides when it comes to roster improvement and that means that there is a good chance that the team can stay strong for a number of seasons. It is a great time to be a Chargers fan.
     
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    Packers-Dallas 1967
    Dubbed by the sports media as "The Ice Bowl", the game-time temperature at Lambeau Field was about −15 °F (−26 °C), with an average wind chill around −48 °F (−44 °C); under the revised National Weather Service wind chill index implemented in 2001, the average wind chill would have been −36 °F (−38 °C).[32] Lambeau Field's turf-heating system malfunctioned, and when the tarpaulin was removed from the field before the game, it left moisture on the field.


    In National Football League (NFL) lore, the Freezer Bowl was the 1981 American Football Conference (AFC) Championship Game between the San Diego Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. The game, won by the Bengals, 27–7, was played in the coldest temperature in NFL history in terms of wind chill. (The coldest in terms of air temperature was the Ice Bowl.) Air temperature was −9 °F (−22.8 °C), but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 miles per hour (43 km/h), was −37 °F or −38.3 °C (calculated as −59 °F or −50.6 °C using the now outdated wind chill formula in place at the time). The game was played on January 10, 1982 at Cincinnati's Riverfront Stadium, and televised by NBC, with announcers Dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen.
     
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    Even Canepa cant help but point out in his "article" how good the roster of the Chargers is. You know that had to sting a little for him to admit. I wouldn't expect any of the haters on this board to be able to do the same without adding an already well understood qualifier to it such as history, injuries, ownership, etc.
     
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    The Dolts did not win the Division last year. They did not make the playoffs.

    Since 2010 ...eight years ago.....they have won 1 playoff game, lost another. Jacksonville Jaguars have won two playoff games, lost one. Lost the AFC Championship game by four points. Top rushing team 2017.
    Sixth in total defense.

    Don't talk Super Bowl till you......a. Get in the playoffs ..... b. Win more playoff games.
    Maybe start with seeing if you can beat the KC Chiefs. Jags, Steelers, Patriots, are all too good
    to fantize your way around.
     
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  30. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    Yup, you are right. Woody Lowe. Damn, well at least I remembered Raymond Chester. I must be a bigger Raider fan :D
     

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