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L.T., the truth hurts: Peterson clearly is the best running back in the NFL

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  1. Sydalish

    Sydalish Addicted to Sports

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81255478&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

    L.T., the truth hurts: Peterson clearly is the best running back in the NFL
    By Vic Carucci | NFL.com
    Senior Columnist


    Sorry, LaDainian Tomlinson, but you've got it wrong.

    Adrian Peterson is, in fact, the best running back in the NFL. You're not.

    At one time, you held that distinction. At one time, the comparisons between you and Jim Brown, the all-time gold standard for the position, were legitimate. At one time, you carried both the football and the fortunes of the San Diego Chargers.


    Associated Press
    While Adrian Peterson (left) has been more productive gaining yardage on the ground, LaDainian Tomlinson has accounted for more touchdowns.

    Peterson vs. L.T. (previous two seasons)
    Adrian Peterson
    Rushing Yards 3,101
    Yards Per Carry 5.2
    Receptions 40
    Receiving Yards 393
    Touchdowns* 23

    LaDainian Tomlinson
    Rushing Yards 2,584
    Yards Per Carry 4.3
    Receptions 112
    Receiving Yards 901
    Touchdowns* 30
    * Touchdowns by rush and reception


    Not any longer.

    You're 30. You're slowing down. Your body is breaking down. So despite recently telling the Los Angeles Times that you can do more than Peterson and priding yourself on "not having any weaknesses" is what makes you the league's "best back," I'd like to provide a little reality check.

    You're good. Good enough to be an effective complement to your speedier and more dynamic backfield mate, Darren Sproles. Good enough to provide solid support for the man whose performance does have the greatest influence on the Chargers' fortunes, quarterback Philip Rivers.

    But Peterson is great. Great enough to do far more to put the Minnesota Vikings into serious playoff contention than his new and more heavily hyped teammate, Brett Favre. Great enough to win a second consecutive NFL rushing crown and be a preseason favorite for MVP honors.

    You are a tremendously accomplished receiver, LaDainian, and there is no arguing that you have been much more productive in that area than Peterson.

    But this is a discussion about who sits atop the NFL when it comes to running with the football. Right now, it begins and ends with Peterson, who is entering his third year in the league.

    Beyond the obvious statistical comparison (Peterson's 3,101 rushing yards in his first two pro seasons being 520 yards more than your total in the same period), there are other factors that make Peterson's superiority indisputable. He is younger, larger, stronger and more explosive. He is a constant threat to go the distance on any handoff, as he demonstrated with his 75-yard touchdown run on the first play in Monday night's preseason victory over the Houston Texans.

    Yes, LaDainian, you once routinely struck that sort of fear in opponents. But not anymore.

    "As far as scaring you to death, absolutely Peterson's the guy," said one longtime NFL talent evaluator who has closely tracked Peterson and Tomlinson since their college days. "He's extremely strong, he's fast, he's got great instincts and cutting ability. Even though he's fast and elusive, he's powerful. He delivers blows. He puts a hurtin' on you.

    "And the production speaks for itself."

    For that matter, there are other backs -- such as Atlanta's Michael Turner (your former teammate), Carolina's DeAngelo Williams, Washington's Clinton Portis and several impressive 2008 rookies -- who could very well be viewed as having more elite talent than you, LaDainian.

    That doesn't mean that we can't appreciate what you've done and what you still are capable of doing.

    "My guy is the best football player in the National Football League and he's the best running back in the National Football League, and I believe that."
    -- Vikings coach Brad Childress while addressing the media Wednesday


    The mere fact that you've taken exception to the lofty praise that Brown heaped upon Peterson in a piece in Sporting News last month, calling the Viking the best runner he'd seen in many years, is a sign of your overwhelming competitive spirit. There's no doubt it was precise reaction the Chargers' brass was hoping to get by making sure you saw that issue of the magazine, with Peterson and Brown posing together on the cover, the unmistakable link between past and present greatness.

    A lot of people around the league love the fact that you spoke up the way you did.

    "You've got to love it (when he says) '(Peterson's) not the best, I'm the best,'" the league talent evaluator said. "Maybe he's got a point to prove. How many backs have had the sort of longevity that Tomlinson has had? You look at what Thurman Thomas did, and that was remarkable, especially for a guy who played on a bum leg his whole career. You look at what Walter Payton did, which was also remarkable."

    Still, when a running back reaches a certain point of his career, there is a limit to his effectiveness. That point is usually around 30, if he's fortunate enough to have been able to stick around that long.

    "When backs start to go, they go fast," the talent evaluator said. "It's not like there's a gradual decline. In most cases with backs, when there's a decline, it's a noticeable decline. Part of the decline comes from injury problems, and (Tomlinson's) had injury problems. The beating you take starts to take its toll. You start missing games and your production starts going down."

    Someday we'll be saying that about Peterson. Given his high-collision running style, there's a chance we could end up saying it sooner than we said it about you, LaDainian.

    Like it or not, however, you're going to have to accept the fact that right now Peterson is the king of all NFL running backs.
     
  2. Sydalish

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    Vic Carucci = HACK

    LT standing up for himself rub you the wrong way you stupid piece of garbage? How about AP has THE BEST offensive line in the NFL paving the way for him? How about AP has more fumbles and games missed to injury? I don't want a RB who can only carry the rock.
     
  3. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    NFL pundits are worse then hollywood, one bad year and all of a sudden your washed up
     
  4. Dublin Bolt

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    Wow....... when I started reading this I thought, what has this guy got against LT?. It sounded personal to me, like he took umbrage at LT saying he was still the best RB in the NFL. Is this guy related to Peterson perchance?.

    F me. Then he softens somewhat, offers LT a couple of platitudes but reverts to type, and sticks the knife in again.

    Amazing. OK LT could have kept his mouth shut but what has he done to deserve an article like this on the NFL website for chrissakes?.

    Bleeding hell as we say here in Dublin!. :icon_evil:
     
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  5. Chargers-Superhero

    Chargers-Superhero Just win the Damn SB !!!

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    He forgot to mention in his article:

    Peterson:

    2007 14 games played with 4 fumbles !!!
    2008 16 games played with 9 fumbles !!!

    Tomlinson:

    2007 16 games played with ONE fumble !!!!
    2008 16 games played with ZERO fumbles !!!!!!!

    Tomlinson has 2 rushing titles, and a MVP, and is the reigning BEST back in the league, future HOF !!!

    Peterson has just started his career, let's not just give him his HOF bust just yet. He needs to correct his fumble problem, and be a better back out of the backfield. Is he a complete back, not really, but alot of great backs were not. I don't even think Peterson is better than Thurman Thomas, or Emmitt Smith. They were saying the same crap about Ricky Williams when he started his career, about how great he was. (Just ask Mike Ditka)
     
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  6. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I hope LT can prove them all wrong. If he stays healthy this year and helps bring home the Lombardi, he will be back on top of the pile.
     
  7. Retired Catholic

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    If all a running has to do was run with the ball, what a wonderful world it would be for them. However, they have to block on blitzes, catch passes on screens, flares and downfield and have the brains to bail out a QB whose under pressure by finding a nearby open spot. How many touchdown passes has AP thrown, by the way? Is he a legitimate threat to be the man with the rock in the wildcat?
     
  8. RM24

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    F all this LT Hate! All that matters is a Lombardi. LT has NOTHING more to prove than getting a world championship. The mission will be accomplished after that. Peterson can have the accolades and rushing titles, best RB. All that matters for LT is staying healthy enough to win us a Super Bowl Title in Miami!!!!!
     
  9. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Exactly and none of this will even matter.
     
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  10. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    I have no problem with AP being considered the best RB right now

    BUT, being "the most complete RB in the past 10 years" is a fing joke, LT has done it at the highest level for 8 years, many backs play good for 1 maybe 2 years, are proclaimed the best RB, the future Peyton, et. only to break down after a couple of years
     
  11. !~BOLT~!

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    This guys right, L.T. should stop playing, he's not the best in the game anymore, and when you aren't the single best in the game you should retire...wait a minute....
     
  12. Boltergeist

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    I feel really good about where LT is at going into this year. There is a fire raging inside of him and he is in great shape. I think when our real running schemes get unveiled, he is goin to TEAR IT UP this year.

    Separately, what an irresponsible article.

    A. LT never said he was 'better than AP' right now. He just responded to Jim Brown saying he was overrated and that AP was a more complete player.....and it was implied that it was over his career, not just last year. AP was actually just trying to say something nice about LT originally as a back he admired. Brown is obviously.

    B. You'd think that Carucci could at least get it right that AP did not win the rushing crown "back to back"....He won it in 2008 only. LT won it in 2006 AND 2007.

    C. The stats he's presenting basically back LT's point that he's less of a one trick pony and has way more receiving yards and TD's......even when he is injured over the entire year and has the worst season of his career.

    In summary:

    LT has 2 rushing titles, AP has one.
    LT has an MVP award, AP doesn't.
    LT has 6 career 200+ yard rushing games. AP has 2.
    LT is a far better receiver and AP will never come close to his yearly totals in receptions or receiving yards
    LT is a better blocker...those who don't think so haven't followed either back closely.
    LT, for all the complaining about his injuries the last two years...is FAR more durable.
    AP runs behind arguably the best run blocking line in the NFL. LT has run behind chitty run blocking the past 2 years.
    AP fumbled more last year than LT has the last 5 years combined.
    AP will need to put him his career best rushing year for another 5 years consecutively before he can match LT's career total.
    AP will never come close to LT's career YFS total
    AP will probably end up with half as many career TDs as LT.

    Tell me...How is AP a more "Complete Back" over the past 10 years?

    All that being said. I LIKE Adrian Peterson. Great back..fun to watch....AND I don't think HE said anything wrong in the interview...it was ALL Jim Brown's prodding...and Carucci trying to pile on like a dumbass hack.
     
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  13. Boltergeist

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    BTW, Carucci should watch this video and get an education on what a healthy LT used to do to make tacklers look effing silly.


     

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