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LA Chargers in 2013?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    This one is sure to fire up the natives. ;)

    If L.A. move will happen in 2013, Chargers are the most likely to go
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 30, 2012, 6:07 PM EDT

    If the NFL plans to return to Los Angeles in 2013, there’s only one team that can pull it off.​

    The Chargers.

    A comparison of Sam Farmer’s Friday item in the Los Angeles Times regarding Commissioner Roger Goodell’s recent memo on the possibility of a move as soon as 2013 with the NFL’s relocation policy (a copy of which PFT has obtained) with the realities of the various stadium and ownership situations reveals that the San Diego Chargers (who actually spent their initial season in Los Angeles, losing the AFL title game to the Oilers) are the only team that currently can pull off a move by next year.

    The Rams can’t leave St. Louis at the earliest until after the 2014 season. The Jaguars must demonstrate three straight years of losses before being able to exit Jacksonville. The Raiders’ lease situation is irrelevant, because (as we’ve previously reported) the league won’t allow them to move to L.A. unless Mark Davis sells controlling interest in the team.

    So that leaves the Chargers, who have an annual window to cancel their Qualcomm Stadium lease, from February 1 through April 30, with a buyout that decreases each year. (For 2012, the cost was a mere $23 million, $2 million less than what Jaguars owner Shad Khan would have to pay former owner Wayne Weaver if the Jags move before 2017.)

    The Chargers’ three-month escape hatch overlaps by 15 days with the league’s relocation policy, which requires notice of an intention to move to be filed with the league office between January 1 and February 15.

    The relocation policy also requires a team that hopes to move “to work diligently and in good faith to obtain and to maintain suitable stadium facilities in their home territories, and to operate in a manner that maximizes fan support in their current home community.” Relocation is appropriate only “if, having diligently engaged in good faith efforts, a club concludes that it cannot obtain a satisfactory resolution of its stadium needs.”

    In other words, a team can’t move without showing that it has exhausted all reasonable efforts to stay put.

    It won’t be hard for the Chargers to demonstrate that they’ve tried to work things out in their current home. After all, the Commissioner has publicly said that “unfortunately, some sense of a growing impasse and an absence of a sense of urgency” exist regarding efforts to build a new venue in San Diego.

    The Commissioner who said that was Paul Tagliabue. The year in which he said it was 2004.

    Then there’s the fact that San Diego will be picking a new mayor in November. Earlier this month, a preliminary election narrowed the field for the looming runoff to two candidates: Republican Carl DeMaio and Democrat Bob Filner.

    Both oppose using public money to build a new Chargers stadium. DeMaio says that fixing streets and restoring services remains a bigger priority, and Filner doesn’t want to subsidize a billionaire without partial ownership of the team by the city, something that the league would never allow.

    So the handwriting is on the wall, San Diego. If any NFL team is going to be in Los Angeles by 2013, it’s the Chargers who will be, well, bolting.
     
  2. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Here we go again. Anytime someone so much as breathes something about the stadiums in LA, the inevitable Chargers are moving article gets dusted off and re-written.
     
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  3. Blue Bolt

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    The only problem with their scenario, is that the Spanos' would have to give a sizable stake to Anschutz. That is still a hurdle that I don't see them overcoming. No owner wants to give up control of their team.
     
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  4. FCBolt

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    Maybe if Anschutz had thrown more support behind Rick Perry... :D
     
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  5. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

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    Chargers could have moved MANY times. They have invested serious money down here & I believe they want to stay. Hell, SD's current mayor has been taking the lead on working on a way to get them to stay. He's termed out after this year, so he has nothing to gain if he makes that happen.
     
  6. Ikeman83

    Ikeman83 Werter Pöbel

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    I still think the Rams are more likely. There's no Charger fan base in LA, and the Charger fans in SD would all be so pissed that they'd probably stop following the team.
     
  7. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    San Diego North.
     
  8. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Los Angelas Chargers of San Diego

    LACSD
     
  9. FCBolt

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    Not sure about the Rams, but I agree the Chargers fanbase would take a hit with move north. All the LAites I meet are either Raiders fans or couldn't give a shite about the NFL.
     
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  10. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    LA likes a winner...... it's that simple, and that shallow.
     
  11. boltfanatik

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    All the folks in LA are raider fans & have to much hate to support a Chargers team.;)
     
  12. Cheapseats

    Cheapseats Loud, proud Charger fan

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    Move the Rams back to L.A.
     
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  13. DenverBolt67

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    There is a small vocal crowd of Raiders fans, but the vast majority of people in LA are indifferent to any specific team
     
  14. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Wake me when they actually put a spade into the ground and start construction of a stadium in LA - I've now panicked in one form or another three times in a decade about the team moving
     
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    MartyCaswell: Fabiani on talks w/AEG or Roski "We've talked to both of those entities...We have no deal w/anybody. We're trying to work on something in SD (1 minute ago from TweetDeck)

    MartyCaswell: Mark Fabiani on if Chargers will apply for relocation to LA (per Goodell guidelines) Jan 1-Feb 15 "No." (6 minutes ago from TweetDeck)
     
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  16. FCBolt

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    It's only 2012--you've got 8 more years of panic to go ;)
     
  17. AnteaterCharger

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    Oh.....better go get more booze
     
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  18. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    I'll have a scotch and a scotch.
     
  19. Ikeman83

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    "Scotchy Scotch Scotch, down in my belly..."

    It's impressive that he uses Scotch as a noun, adjective, and adverb...
     
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  20. rickochey

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    And San Diego doesn't?
     
  21. Blue Bolt

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    Of course.

    The point being, LA only supports a winner. They are bandwagoneers.
     
  22. HollywoodLeo

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    I take this with a grain of salt. Whether or not their main intent is to stay in San Diego they're not going to say otherwise to anybody who can get the info to the general public while they're still in San Diego.
     
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  23. FCBolt

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    Timely given the date ;)
     
  24. Brundlefly

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    I'm at the point of becoming a scotch drinker where I borderline enjoy it
     
  25. rickochey

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    So does SD. When the Bolts were 1-15 they were not selling out and showing the games on TV. People and Fans are the same everywhere.
     
  26. DenverBolt67

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    Uhhh, in case you didn't notice, the Chargers went from a bad team that was constantly blacked out, to a winning team that were constantly sold out, to an average team that has struggled to sell out every game. Same goes fro the Padres. When they are winning, they sell out. When they suck, the struggle to sell tickets.

    I think it is a California thing, not just a LA thing
     
  27. Sandolf

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    Vancouver is like that too. So maybe it is a west coast thing and not strictly California.
     
  28. HollywoodLeo

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    I think it's a just about everywhere thing. There are a very select few teams who seem to sell out win or lose.
     
  29. Blue Bolt

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    Not really....... there are places that continue to sell, even when the team sucks.

    Of course, those places also don't have the great weather (even in winter) and the myriad of outdoor activities available that we do here.
     
  30. DenverBolt67

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    True. Before Steinbrenner bought the Yankees and Lucchino, Henry, and Werner bough the BoSox, they didn't sell nearly as many tickets.
     

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