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leisureworld draft analysis

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Thumper, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. Thumper

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    Ok, here are the first 50 names I have on my draft card. I ranked each player on a scale from 0 to 100. I'm not going to get into how I came up with these numbers, but I'll say that they are based on multiple sources, plus my own observations. Just for fun I also am putting where they went in the leisureworld draft spectacular. I am also giving a leisureworld draft value score number. This number just shows the value of where they were picked against where they were ranked. The higher the number the better the pick.

    Note: This is not the order I think these players will actually be drafted in. This is just the order I have them in on my draft card. This is my own draft card and not just copied from some website.

    (1-10)

    1) Calvin Johnson WR 6'4 230 Georgia Tech

    Thumper score = 99.50
    leisureworld draft = 1
    leisureworld draft value score (0)

    This kid has size, speed, body control, & great hand eye coordination. He is a special talent.

    2) Joe Thomas OT 6'8 313 Wisconsin

    Thumper score = 98.50
    leisureworld draft = 5
    leisureworld draft value score (+3)

    A consensus All American. Has played all across the oline, plus TE, DE. Excelled at LT.

    3) Adrian Peterson RB 6'2 217 Oklahoma

    Thumper score = 98.50
    leisureworld draft = 3
    leisureworld draft value score (0)

    Big, strong RB, with potential to get even better. Has shown that he can carry the load of a feature back and can be effective even when battling injury.

    4) Brady Quinn QB 6'4 232 Notre Dame

    Thumper score = 98.00
    leisureworld draft = 7
    leisureworld draft value score (+3)

    He is an excellent pocket passer, showing both strength and accuracy. Probably the QB that is most ready for the NFL.

    5) JaMarcus Russell QB 6'6 260 LSU

    Thumper score = 97.75
    leisureworld draft = 2
    leisureworld draft value score (-3)

    Russell has a crazy combination of skills. He's huge, athletic, and accurate. He can be a pocket passer, yet he's also super mobile. He lacks patience at times, but if he's given a little time to develop into the NFL game, watch out.

    6) Patrick Willis LB 6'2 240 Ole Miss

    Thumper score = 96.50
    leisureworld draft = 12
    leisureworld draft value score (+6)

    Unquestionably the best LB in the draft. Great instincts and toughness are only part of the picture. He's a leader.

    7) Alan Branch DT 6'6 324 Michigan Jr.

    Thumper score = 96.50
    leisureworld draft = 13
    leisureworld draft value score (+6)

    Branch is not an explosive playmaker, but what he will do is clog the middle. Plus he has the strength to penetrate and force a QB out of the pocket. Great run stopper. Teams will not run effectively at Branch.

    8) Gaines Adams DE 6'5 260 Clemson

    Thumper score = 96.25
    leisureworld draft = 4
    leisureworld draft value score (-4)

    Great natural talent. Quick first step. Super ability to get to the QB or tackle for a loss. Lacks size and needs to slip blocks better. Good coaching can make him a great player.

    9) Laron Landry S 6'2 202 LSU

    Thumper score = 95.75
    leisureworld draft = 8
    leisureworld draft value score (-1)

    He is a great cover safety with a combination of height and athleticism.

    10) Amobi Okoye DT 6'2 302 Louisville

    Thumper score = 95.25
    leisureworld draft = 6
    leisureworld draft value score (-4)

    Young player with tons of potential at the next level. May need some time to mature.
     
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    leisure draft analysis based off my draft card.

    (11-20)

    11) Jamaal Anderson DE 6'6 280 Arkansas

    Thumper score = 94.75
    leisureworld draft = 9
    leisureworld draft value score (+2)

    12) Leon Hall CB 5'11 194 Michigan

    Thumper score = 93.50
    leisureworld draft = 10
    leisureworld draft value score (-2)

    13) Darrelle Revis CB 6' 200 Pitt

    Thumper score = 92.75
    leisureworld draft = 18
    leisureworld draft value score (+5)

    14) Dwayne Bowe WR 6'3 217 LSU

    Thumper score = 92.50
    leisureworld draft = 30
    leisureworld draft value score (+16)

    15) Levi Brown OT 6'5 328 Penn St.

    Thumper score = 92.00
    leisureworld draft = 21
    leisureworld draft value score (+6)

    16) Adam Carriker DE 6'6 296 Nebraska

    Thumper score = 91.75
    leisureworld draft = 11
    leisureworld draft value score (+5)

    17) Dwayne Jarrett WR 6'5 210 USC

    Thumper score = 90.50
    leisureworld draft = 23
    leisureworld draft value score (+6)

    18) Marshawn Lynch RB 5'11 217 Cal

    Thumper score = 90.25
    leisureworld draft = 43
    leisureworld draft value score (+25)

    19) Paul Posluszny OLB 6'2 238 Penn St.

    Thumper score = 89.50
    leisureworld draft = 31
    leisureworld draft value score (+12)

    20) Robert Meachem WR 6'3 210 Tennessee

    Thumper score = 89.00
    leisureworld draft = 25
    leisureworld draft value score (+5)
     
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    leisure draft analysis based off my draft card.

    (21-30)

    21) Reggie Nelson S 6'1 193 Florida

    Thumper score = 89.00
    leisureworld draft = 14
    leisureworld draft value score (-7)

    22) Chris Houston CB 5'11 188 Arkansas

    Thumper score = 88.75
    leisureworld draft = 19
    leisureworld draft value score (-3)

    23) Ted Ginn Jr WR 6' 180 Ohio St.

    Thumper score = 88.00
    leisureworld draft = 17
    leisureworld draft value score (-6)

    24) Greg Olsen TE 6'6 252 Miami

    Thumper score = 88.00
    leisureworld draft = 16
    leisureworld draft value score (-8)

    25) Joe Staley OT 6'5 300 Central Michigan

    Thumper score = 87.75
    leisureworld draft = 34
    leisureworld draft value score (+9)

    26) Eric Wright CB 5'11 190 UNLV

    Thumper score = 87.25
    leisureworld draft = 51
    leisureworld draft value score (+25)

    27) Michael Griffin S 6' 205 Texas.

    Thumper score = 86.50
    leisureworld draft = 22
    leisureworld draft value score (-5)

    28) Jon Beason LB 6' 237 Miami

    Thumper score = 86.50
    leisureworld draft = 20
    leisureworld draft value score (-8)

    29) Brandon Meriweather S 5'11 195 Miami

    Thumper score = 86.25
    leisureworld draft = 48
    leisureworld draft value score (+19)

    30) Jarvis Moss DE 6'6 251 Florida

    Thumper score = 86.00
    leisureworld draft = 15
    leisureworld draft value score (-15)
     
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    leisure draft analysis based off my draft card.

    (31-40)

    31) Arron Sears OL 6'4 315 Tennessee


    Thumper score = 85.25
    leisureworld draft = 44
    leisureworld draft value score (+13)

    32) Lawrence Timmons OLB 6'3 230 Florida St.

    Thumper score = 84.25
    leisureworld draft = 26
    leisureworld draft value score (-6)

    33) Aaron Ross CB 6'1 193 Texas

    Thumper score = 83.75
    leisureworld draft = 24
    leisureworld draft value score (-9)

    34) Justin Blalock OG 6'4 329 Texas

    Thumper score = 83.50
    leisureworld draft = 36
    leisureworld draft value score (+2)

    35) Victor Abiamiri DE 6'4 270 Notre Dame

    Thumper score = 83.25
    leisureworld draft = NOT DRAFTED
    leisureworld draft value score (N/A)

    36) Anthony Spencer DE 6'3 261 Purdue


    Thumper score = 83.00
    leisureworld draft = 28
    leisureworld draft value score (-8)

    37) Zach Miller TE 6'5 259 Arizona St.

    Thumper score = 82.75
    leisureworld draft = 55
    leisureworld draft value score (+18)

    38) Tony Ugoh OT 6'5 301 Arkansas

    Thumper score = 81.50
    leisureworld draft = 52
    leisureworld draft value score (+14)

    39) Sidney Rice WR 6'4 202 South Carolina


    Thumper score = 81.00
    leisureworld draft = 37
    leisureworld draft value score (-2)

    40) Eric Weddle S 6' 200 Utah

    Thumper score = 80.25
    leisureworld draft = 64
    leisureworld draft value score (+24)
     
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    leisure draft analysis based off my draft card.

    (41-50)

    41) LaMarr Woodley DE/OLB 6'2 274 Michigan

    Thumper score = 79.75
    leisureworld draft = 53
    leisureworld draft value score (+12)

    42) Brian Leonard FB 6'2 235 Rutgers

    Thumper score = 79.25
    leisureworld draft = NOT DRAFTED
    leisureworld draft value score (N/A)

    43) Ryan Kalil C 6'3 285 USC

    Thumper score = 78.75
    leisureworld draft = 54
    leisureworld draft value score (+11)

    44) DeMarcus Tyler DT 6'2 305 North Carolina St.

    Thumper score = 78.00
    leisureworld draft = 61
    leisureworld draft value score (+17)

    45) Ben Grubbs OG 6'2 311 Auburn

    Thumper score = 77.5
    leisureworld draft = 29
    leisureworld draft value score (-16)

    46) Marcus McCauley CB 6' 1 205 Fresno St.

    Thumper score = 77.00
    leisureworld draft = 27
    leisureworld draft value score (-19)

    47) David Harris ILB 6'2 251 Michigan

    Thumper score = 76.50
    leisureworld draft = 45
    leisureworld draft value score (-2)

    48) Justin Harrell DT 6'4 300 Tennessee

    Thumper score = 76.00
    leisureworld draft = 32
    leisureworld draft value score (-16)

    49) Brandon Siler LB 6'2 235 Florida

    Thumper score = 75.25
    leisureworld draft = 58
    leisureworld draft value score (+9)

    50) Quinn Pitcock DT 6'3 295 Ohio St.


    Thumper score = 75.00
    leisureworld draft = NOT DRAFTED
    leisureworld draft value score (N/A)
     
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    leisure draft analysis based off my draft card.

    Some leisureworld draft analysis based on my draft card.

    Best picks based on the value for the position they were drafted

    - Pick #43 Marshawn Lynch by SOUTHPAW for the Bills +25 value score
    - Pick #51 Eric Wright by REEF_SHARK for the Giants +25 value
    - Pick #64 Eric Weddle by ELDWIN for the Bucs +24 value score
    - Pick #48 Brandon Meriweather by IN_A_DAYS for the Jaguars +19 value score
    - Pick #55 Zach Miller by PHILLYCHARGERFAN for the Seahawks +18 value score
    - Pick #61 DeMarcus Tyler by CHARGER DAVE for the Ravens +17 value score
    - Pick #30 Dwayne Bowe by NICKELBOLT for the Chargers +16 value score
    - Pick #52 Tony Ugoh by Thumper for the Rams +14 value score
    - Pick #44 Arron Sears by leisure for the Falcons +13 value score
    - Pick #31 Paul Posluszny by SPANOSDISASTER for the Bears +12 value score
    - Pick #53 LaMarr Woodley by NEWMEXICOCHARGER for the Cowboys +12 value score
    - Pick #54 Ryan Kalil by HOFF529 for the Chiefs +11 value score

    Worst picks based on the value for the position they were drafted


    - Pick #29 Ben Grubbs by CHARGER DAVE for the Ravens - 16 value score
    - Pick #32 Justin Harrell by PHILLYCHARGERFAN for the Steelers – 16 value
    - Pick #15 Jarvis Moss by VAN DE MAN CHARGER FAN for the Steelers -15 value score

    Here is a list of the players drafted that didn’t make my draft card. Some of these are understandable since there were only 50 players on my draft card and 64 picks, but some of these pick just leave me saying wtf?

    - Pick #33 Drew Stanton QB Michigan St. by Tha Rock
    - Pick #35 Steve Smith WR USC by Eldwin
    - Pick #39 Charles Johnson DE Georgia by leisure
    - Pick #40 Trent Edwards QB Stanford by Shamrock
    - Pick #41 Craig Davis WR LSU by BoltsfanUK
    - Pick #42 Zak DeOssie LB/DE Brown by Hexedbolt
    - Pick #49 Ray McDonald DL Florida by Carrie1219
    - Pick #50 Tim Crowder DE Texas by TitanFan24
    - Pick #57 John Wendling S Univercity of Wyoming by SanDiegoRon
    - Pick #59 Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse by RipTheJacker
    - Pick #60 Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St. by ?
    - Pick #62 Sabby Piscitelli S Oregon St. by NickelBolt
    - Pick #63 Quentin Moses DE Georgia by ?
     
  7. Carrie1219

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    Great Read...:yes:

    I should have picked Abiamiri for Cinci in the 2nd round... I could just kick myself now...

    Will study your top 50 NOT DRAFTEDS to see if Cinci can use them in Round 3. :tup:
     
  8. Tha rock

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    cinci doesnt need a DE they need a DT,backup WR,TE,CB. They have two D-ends who are two of the top ones in the leauge in justin smith and robert gathers.

    I drafted abiamiri too thumper so mark him down, i got him a pick 65.
    How does stanton not make the top 50?
     
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    This "analysis" is based on the draft card I used for the draft and where I felt players had value, so take it with a grain of salt. My draft card didn't address needs of teams, so even if a player you drafted was a little early for where I felt they should be valued, if it fit a need of your teams then it could still be a good pick.

    I'm not participating in any of this draft beyond the first two round that I already completed because some of the so called experts here felt they had to be insulting to myself and other people picking if the pick didn't go with their mindset. That's sad really, especially since I didn't grade their picks as particularly impressive.

    I think I noted that Victor Abiamiri wasn't taken in the first two rounds. I had him as the 35th best player on my card. If you got him after the second round, that was a steal. Excellent pick.

    Overall it was a fun draft, but some need to rememeber that this is all in fun and there is no need to bash a pick because they don't agree. I hope we haven't lost a member of this forum over this draft, but I fear we have. That bothers me more than anything said about my picks. I know my picks were good.
     
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    Actually Carrie, I tried to call you when you were making your pick. I was going to tell you to take Zach Miller, the TE from Arizona State.
     
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    Here's how your pick of Abiamiri would have rated for value against my draft card.

    35) Victor Abiamiri DE 6'4 270 Notre Dame

    Thumper score = 83.25
    leisureworld draft = 65
    leisureworld draft value score (+30)

    As far a just for value for your pick, this is one of the best picks in the draft Rock. Of course there are other factors that make a great pick in the end, but to get this guy in the third round is a major steal. He should have been gone by early / mid second round. Just like Marshawn Lynch dropping to the 11th pick of the second round. It's just not going to happen unless he gets hurt or arrested between now and the draft.
     
  12. Shamrock

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    Cool stuff Thumper !!! :tup:

    As far as Lynch ..... if he doesn't fall into at least the late 1st or early second, then GM's weren't listening to the Commish. Him and Merriweather both should fall a FULL round, at least - and both really should fall to the 2nd day if a team is listening. If either gets in any trouble their rookie year ( no matter which round they are picked), then that team is going to be the poster child example for the team punishment phase of the Commish's new policy.
     
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    WTF is it with you and stanton?!?!?! :icon_shrug: :icon_huh:




    :lol:
     
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    Thanks, I think this can happen ive seen alot of draft boards very down on him etc...I almoast took dan bauzzin over him. My reason for stanton being pick 33 is the things he excels at like reading defenses,evading the rush,three step drop, very quick release,good quick thinker, can break plays, has a nice deep ball, has alot of touch on his passes and had incrdiblle fire and moxie. I think stanton is a perfect fit for the WCO.
     
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    Thanks, I think this can happen ive seen alot of draft boards very down on him etc...I almoast took dan bauzzin over him. My reason for stanton being pick 33 is the things he excels at like reading defenses,evading the rush,three step drop, very quick release,good quick thinker, can break plays, has a nice deep ball, has alot of touch on his passes and had incrdiblle fire and moxie. I think stanton is a perfect fit for the WCO.
     
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    I think you got good value for Abiamiri @ 65 but i also think Thumper has him rated too high.

    As for Stanton........imo he isnt top 50 worthy.

    Good job on the chart Thumper.
     
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    I might change a few things if I made a new draft card today, but I don't think I'd drop Abiamiri too much. Tha Rock got good value for him where he picked. I tried to quantify all sorts of things from statistics, to my own opinion of each player in different categories based on their position. That's how I came up with the Thumper score. Different things were weighted higher than other based on how important I felt that information was.

    It's just one way to rank the players, but nobody knows for certain who's going to perform at the NFL level. If they did, there wouldn't be so many NFL busts.
     
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    Agree..i wouldnt drop him much either. Somewhere in the 40's-50's maybe. It depends on where he fits too. I think i have him going to Dallas in my last mock in the 2nd round which was a month ago. Working on my final.
     

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