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Marty Schottenheimer to Bills ?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    Could Nix sway Schottenheimer to Bills?


    ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Two years ago, Buddy Nix and Marty Schottenheimer were shopping around for jobs together and appeared close to landing with the Atlanta Falcons.

    With news the Buffalo Bills have promoted Nix from their scouting department to general manager, you have to wonder if this opens the door for Schottenheimer to be the Bills' next head coach.
    On Nov. 24, Schottenheimer told the audience of "The Red Zone," his show on Sirius NFL Radio, that he wasn't interested in returning to the sidelines.

    "From the coaching standpoint of it, you know, I'll be very candid with you and say it's nice to think that people would consider you," Schottenheimer said, "but the reality of it is is that after 30 great years, I'm really not going to go back down that road again."

    Sure, and Bill Parcells was done coaching after the New York Jets. And Nick Saban wasn't a candidate for the Alabama job.

    Could Nix's promotion sway Schottenheimer, who played linebacker for the Bills in the 1960s?

    When the tandem was being considered for the Falcons, Chargers general manager A.J. Smith noted how close Nix and Schottenheimer were in San Diego.

    "If true, I believe a Buddy Nix-Marty Schottenheimer team in Atlanta would be a perfect fit," Smith told the San Diego Union-Tribune. "Buddy got along well with Schottenheimer. They socialized together, went out to dinner, golfed together, sat together on the plane, talked football all the time."

    The Falcons instead hired Thomas Dimitroff, from the New England Patriots front office, to be general manager and Mike Smith to be head coach.
     
  2. Bergo23

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    It may be Shotty's last chance to prove he can win in the playoffs. It seems they have a potentially good running game...with two good backs in Lynch and Fred whats his name. I'd love for him to go toe to toe with Bellicheat, hopefully he could hire away his son from the Jets, maybe taking over someday for his old man. Heck maybe ole Kurt can be the D coordinator...and they could rename the franchise the Schottenheimer's!!!!
     
  3. IFiredCHart

    IFiredCHart Well-Known Member

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    The quintessential team that cannot win the Super Bowl meets the coach who epitomizes playoff failure, perfect fit if you ask me. :yes:
     
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  4. BoltFanDC

    BoltFanDC Mufflers Are Overrated

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    T.O. is going to LOVE this...

    Oil and water.
     
  5. Workplay

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    T.O. is almost worthless. The Buffalo Bills aren't as dysfunctional as the Raiders, but they're getting there. If they think that hiring Marty Schottenheimer is going to help, I say go for it.
     
  6. BOLTS4LIFE

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    What are they? 3-12 or something like that?
    They need to win before they can think about the playoffs and this would be a good fit for Marty. Getting bad teams winning is his specialty...

    Cleveland was a mess... he got them winning.
    Kansas City was a mess... he got them winning.
    We were a mess... he got us winning.

    These were all big freakin' messes too.
    In three seasons, he'll get the Bills competing again.
     
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    Do you actually think TO will be a Bill next season? :icon_shrug:
     
  8. Holy_Bolt

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    I agree! Give Marty a few years and the Bills will be back in the hunt. He could be the right coach at the right time for the struggling Bills. Marty won't put up with player antics like TO...he will clean house and help the Bills form a strong foundation to build on. When you are down like the Raturds and Bills, you should not look for the quick fix...pay your dues and rebuild...Marty may be the right Man for the job.
     
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  9. LV Bolt Fan

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    Then bring in Norv Turner to get them to win in the Playoffs. :icon_rofl:
     
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  10. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    I almost wrote that they could have Norv once we were done with him!:lol::lol:
     
  11. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Marty won't do much there just like his record proves. GM's get him all the best player's and he'll still manage to find a way to poof out. Dude is a born loser and wasn't even that good a football player.
     
  12. BOLTS4LIFE

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    Ughhhh. The only players worth mentioning for the Chiefs in Marty's time are Derrick Thomas (bless his heart) and Neil Smith. Without those two, they would have been a horrible team.
    Sure, Marcus Allen ran well for an old guy and Montana had a little left on his last legs but who did he have to throw to?
    The GM supplied very little and he got the best he could with what he got.

    BTW... guess who started coaching Brees's career? I suppose he sucks too? There is a BIG reason why we gave Brees a contract extension instead of letting him walk.
     
  13. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Marty has sucked everywhere he's coached, he can't even win a damn playoff game let alone smell a Super Bowl with out buying a ticket.

    Brees was tagged, he wasn't signed long term.
     
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    Yup. We were such a great team before he came here. Years of winning with Super Bowl talent all over the place!!! He reduced us down to an 8-8 team in 02.

    Cleveland was an awesome team too until Marty took over. So was KC.

    So now that sarcasm made you happy, no need to discuss anymore. Did you start watching foolball yesterday?
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Actually I have a few more day's than you do, but I watch Football.
     
  16. sdbound

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    It's commonly the guys that were not talented enough that become students of the game and go onto the next level in coaching.
     
  17. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I would imagine that most coaches have played the game on one level or another. Tommy Lasorda wasn't a very good American baseball player but did quite well as a manager.
     
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    OT: Lasorda was a minor league pitcher I think? Also wasn't Lasorda childhood friends with John Madden and John Robinson? I recall hearing some stories about them sneaking into games.
     
  19. HollywoodLeo

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    Tony Dungy wasn't a good football player.

    He has a Super Bowl ring.
     
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    The same can be said for Eli Manning.
     
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  21. HollywoodLeo

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    Fair enough.

    But I counter with the fact that Eli had a good game (while his teammates were more responsible for getting him there) but Dungy lead his team to the dance and won it.

    Furthermore, Dungy helped build the team that Gruden inherited and won a SB with.
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I recall hearing about some of Lasorda's childhood antics but I can't recall who he was running with.
     
  23. Boltage Bimbo

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    Here are some stats for you...

    Norv Turner in 188 games has done...

    Games over .500: -9
    Super Bowl Wins: 0
    Overall Championships: 0
    Conference Championships: 0
    Division Championships: 4


    Marty Schottenheimer in 327 games has done...

    Games over .500: 74
    Super Bowl Wins: 0
    Overall Championships: 0
    Conference Championships: 0
    Division Championships: 8

    Notice the zeros people... Norv hasn't gotten any further in the playoffs than Marty. So can we please stop talking about how much better in the playoffs Norv is than Marty. :scream:
     
  24. HollywoodLeo

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    You didn't list the stats for all playoff games so your argument isn't exactly valid.
     
  25. BOLTS4LIFE

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    Here's something for Norv lovers/Marty haters to consider...

    Had we hired Norv in 2002 to take the reigns of the 5-11 team (followed by a 1-15 season) would Norv have made us into the team we are now?
    I don't think so but how about this... if he did, should he get credit for building the team? Why or why not (since Marty doesn't)?

    Another thing... all the whining about losing the playoffs in 04 and 06... what makes you so sure that we would have even made the playoffs had Norv started in 02?

    Let's hear it!
     
  26. HollywoodLeo

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    I don't care about speculation and what ifs because there's no way to prove it one way or another.

    All I know is Marty was great in the regular season and sucked in the playoffs and Norv starts slow but has won 3 division titles in the 3 years he's been here and has had some amount of success in the playoffs.

    Hopefully he reaches the ultimate goal this year, but even as things stand right now he's already done more with the team than Marty ever did.

    By the way, I was one of Marty's staunchest supporters when he was here. Don't believe me, go do a search on him at the UT and see who's posting the most in just about any anti-Marty thread.
     
  27. BOLTS4LIFE

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    Woopty Freakin' Doo!!!! :icon_rofl:

    Look at our division!!! Kevin Gilbride could do that!!!
    Reduce the them to 8-8 and that still clinches the division.

    People whine about not making the playoffs in 2007... well the Donks were 13-3 and the Quiefs were 10-6.
     
  28. HollywoodLeo

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    Would Kevin Gilbride win 3 playoff games?
     
  29. Kwak

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    This is true, but if you include the reg season % here are the Playoff % for the stat list.

    Norv: 7-4 .571

    Marty: 5-13 .278

    Depends on how you rate playoff success. Is it only a success if you walk home with a SB trophy? Just getting to the SB? Their winning %?

    Each can view it differently in the context of the discussion.
     
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    I don't know but you mentioned clinching the AFCW three times in three years and I'm telling you that cosidering our team and our horrible division rivals... that ain't **it!!!

    Any HC could do that blindfolded!!!
     

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