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Mel Kipers 2nd Rd. Mock has Them Chargers Taking ...

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  1. L.T Bolt

    L.T Bolt BoltTalker

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    :bolt2:Randall Cobb from Kentucky who is a beast he played QB, RB, (Mainly WR and KR/PR) and lead the ncaa in All purporse yards last year watch film on him he's good and Mel has us taking Ras-I-Dowling Corner back from Iowa ,, The Full Mock Below Chargers picks highlighted:bolt2:

    New England Patriots (from CAR)
    Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona
    Natural pass-rushing threat in the 3-4 defensive scheme.

    Buffalo Bills
    Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois
    Bills need help at linebacker, Wilson is best interior linebacker in the draft.

    Cincinnati Bengals
    Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
    Great value here at a position they have to address given Carson Palmer's status

    Denver Broncos
    Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
    Broncos need help at cornerback and Champ Bailey isn't getting any younger.

    Cleveland Browns
    Titus Young, WR, Boise State
    Young is a guy I thought could slip into the first round. Browns add another target for Colt McCoy.

    Arizona Cardinals
    Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
    Best tight end in the draft to a team that needs one.

    Tennessee Titans
    Bruce Carter, LB, UNC
    Carter has to play in a 4-3 system, but he should be a starter in this league for a long time.

    Dallas Cowboys
    Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (FL)
    Cowboys need help at corner. Harris is a borderline first-round talent.

    Washington Redskins
    Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
    Redskins get the second-best running back in the draft. He could have easily slipped into the first round.

    Houston Texans
    Rahim Moore, S, UCLA
    Houston's secondary was a disaster in 2010. Moore is the best safety in this class.

    Minnesota Vikings
    Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
    If Bowers is healthy, this is a potential top-five pick. Tremendous value at this point and worth the risk.

    Detroit Lions
    Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
    Lions get a first-round steal, address an obvious need in Round 2.

    San Francisco 49ers
    Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
    San Francisco passed on a quarterback in Round 1. Here's an arm for Jim Harbaugh to develop.

    Denver Broncos (from MIA)
    Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa
    Might be a bit of a reach here, but Denver needs help on the defensive line.

    St. Louis Rams
    Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)
    Sam Bradford gets another much-needed offensive target to work with.

    Oakland Raiders
    Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
    Oakland needs a clogger on the defensive line. The powerful Paea fits the bill.

    Washington Redskins (from JAX)
    Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
    Washington needs to find some solutions at wide receiver. Smith is a good start.

    San Diego Chargers
    Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
    Philip Rivers can make it work with anybody, but San Diego could use more talent at wide receiver.


    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Jah Reid, OT, UCF
    Tampa Bay adds some protection as they continue to develop that offense.

    New York Giants
    Quan Sturdivant, LB, UNC
    Giants are desperate for help at linebacker. Sturdivant should have an immediate impact.

    Indianapolis Colts
    Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
    Colts need to add bulk up front. Sheard offers good value here.

    Philadelphia Eagles
    Brandon Burton, CB, Utah
    I thought Philadelphia might target a cornerback in Round 1. The Eagles get one instead in Round 2.

    Kansas City Chiefs
    Orlando Franklin, G, Miami (FL)
    Added protection for Matt Cassel and a good run blocker as Scott Pioli builds his lines.

    New England Patriots (from NOR)
    Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State
    New England needed help along the offensive line. It got Nate Solder in Round 1. It'll get more help here.

    Seattle Seahawks
    Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
    Seattle has uncertainty at the quarterback position. Mallett has a first-round arm. He's worth the risk here.

    Baltimore Ravens
    Greg Little, WR, UNC
    Baltimore needs a deep threat. Little can provide just that.

    Cleveland Browns (from ATL)
    Justin Houston, DE, Georgia
    Houston is a great value this late in Round 2. He's a tweener but offers a lot of potential as a pass rusher.

    New England Patriots
    Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
    New England opted to pass on Mark Ingram in Round 1. Leshoure adds a new dimension to the Pats' running game.

    San Diego Chargers (from NYJ)
    Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
    A first-round talent that was injured most of last season. Great value pick here.

    Chicago Bears
    Marvin Austin, DT, UNC
    Bears get great value here at the end of Round 2.

    Pittsburgh Steelers
    Benjamin Ijalana, T, Villanova
    Pittsburgh needs help on the offensive line. Ijalana has good versatility, can move inside.

    Green Bay Packers
    Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
    Green Bay are aging at cornerback. Patrick gives them an infusion of youth.
     
  2. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    i will have a ******* heart attack if that happens, i dont want a wr or a cb this early
     
  3. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    If Dowling fell THAT far (which I very much doubt he'll get past either Detroit or Houston) I'd be all for snatching him up. He's wildly talented and if healthy is too good to pass up.
    I'm not a fan of Cobb at all and would rather get a real receiver over a "weapon". At that point I'd rather get Franklin or hell Houston at that pick
     
  4. L.T Bolt

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    True, but i like cobb he's a good player i think he could help in the return game and in the slot... but i would like us a Offensive Tavkle Rivers got sacked too much last year..maybe even a Linebacker i think defense should still be what we go for... in free agency we may be able to get some pieces as well... imo
     
  5. CoronaDoug

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    I like this one better...
    PFT’s second-round mock draft | ProFootballTalk

    50: Chargers: Justin Houston, linebacker, Georgia.

    Houston fell down boards after testing positive for marijuana at the Combine. He’s still one of the draft’s most naturally explosive players. Houston would probably beat out Larry English to start in year one.

    61: Chargers: Leonard Hankerson, wide receiver, Miami.

    Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith loves big-bodied receivers. Hankerson possesses the biggest hands of any wideout that will be drafted, and the 6-foot-2, 209-pound prospect has a knack for scoring touchdowns. Both Vincent Jackson and Malcom Floyd are unsigned for 2011.
     
  6. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    We are not taking Houston, I can pretty much guarantee that.
     
  7. CoronaDoug

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    If AJ drafts Hankerson I will kiss him on the lips.

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  8. Blue Bolt

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    I would hope we'd be looking best available OLB or ILB at this point..... those are still more pressing needs.
     
  9. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    i agree
     
  10. Blue Bolt

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    Sounds like that is still the Chargers priority......

    Taking Liuget doesn't mean the Chargers aren't still going to target an OLB next...... I think they will.
     
  11. FCBolt

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    Kiper got only 6 picks right yesterday......
     
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    Is that some kind of a record for him? ;)
     
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    CHARGERS: Mock drafts project the Bolts' second-round picks
    North County Times | Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:19 am

    Here are some websites' projections of which player the Chargers might pick with their two second-round picks today's NFL draft, beginning at 3 p.m.

    Site: SI.com (Don Banks)

    50th pick: Martez Wilson, OLB, Illinois

    Comment: The Chargers have been underproductive at linebacker in recent seasons, and the versatile Wilson carried one of the more solid second-round grades at his position.

    61st pick: Ben Ijalana, OG, Villanova

    Comment: The Chargers don't like to pass on highly-rated talent, even if it's not at the most critical of need positions.

    Site: CBSSports.com (Chad Reuter)

    50th pick: Jabaal Sheard, OLB, Pittsburgh

    Comment: The Chargers got the five-technique guy they needed in the first round by taking Illinois' Corey Liuget, so adding Sheard as another pass rusher should shore up a disappointing defense.

    61st pick: Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA

    Comment: When the Jets beat the Colts in the wild-card round three months ago, they "lost" this pick to the Chargers to complete the trade for CB Antonio Cromartie. The team can't bet on Bob Sanders staying healthy, and Eric Weddle is the latest potential free agent unhappy with GM A.J. Smith.

    Site: CBSSports.com (Rob Rang)

    50th pick: Marcus Cannon, OT, TCU

    Comment: RT Jeromey Clary has been solid, but far from spectacular. GM A.J. Smith loves size on the front line and they don't come much bigger than the 6-foot-5, 358-pound Cannon.

    61st pick: Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky

    Comment: The late run on wide receivers continues with the Chargers adding the versatile Cobb as a dependable target in the slot.

    -- Compiled by Jeff Nahill
     
  14. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Kiper plugs almost straight off his Big Board with what he thinks are needs. AJ's never drafted a WR that wasn't capable of playing the flanker, split-end, and slot positions. Cobb is almost strictly a slot/gadget guy and 2nd round - sorry Chiefs and Dexter McCluster - is terrible value for that kind of player. Percy Harvin at least is capable of playing on the outside - particularly in a West Coast Offense. Then throw in that Cobb's route-running skills are almost as raw as they come and his hands aren't particularly consistent. I don't see it; sorry, Mel. I also don't see where he brings anything to our offense - youth aside - that we aren't already paying Crayton $2.1MM to provide (and with better polish and an already-established quick chemistry with Rivers). Picking Cobb in the 2nd would be akin to another Jacob Hester in the 2nd round type pick.
     
  15. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Not really. I think half the reason ESPN keeps him around is because of the high ratings that his Day 2 and 3 'freakouts' draw when he's beside himself in disbelief that certain guys are getting passed over. And then promptly a year later he will flipflop and say how he predicted that such happening "was possible" "at one time".
     
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    Hey LBC what do you have on Shaky Smithson? I think this new kick off rule may have an impact on the value of the KR.
     
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    I hope they will. I'm just hoping it's not Jabaal Sheard because he's got "another Larry English" written all over him. Hoping that if we don't get Reed (and don't be surprised if we move for him if he gets past the Pats) that we can land Ayers (at 2nd round value I'll take his poor 40 and good tape). I wouldn't be surprised if we value Ayers over Reed - though AJ loves his high-motor, high-effort guys (see Liuget and his infatuation with Kerrigan and Watt) and that rings true of Reed.

    You give me Liuget and Ayers with #18 and #50, and I'm content to let him go BPA at #62 (since I'm still fairly confident he won't go OT till the 3rd - not that I wouldn't be elated to see him take one sooner).
     
  18. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I'm actually getting hopeful for Hankerson.....which of course means they'll pass on him and take a T/G convert from Canada with a 4th round grade.
     
  19. CoronaDoug

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    Buddy Nix.
     
  20. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    First off, I want to say that the guy has a LEGENDARY name and should be drafted on that alone.

    That said, I've actually expected for the last month or so for him to be drafted in similar capacity to being this year's Scotty McGee/Marc Mariani - guy drafted because of his prowess as a returner. He's got to be considered a priority UDFA by a lot of teams in need of upgrading their returner and due the uncertainty surrounding when UDFA's will be allowed to be signed (assuming appellate court has granted the league it's stay and returned the lockout - so we're looking at free agency in any capacity very likely not starting until mid-to-late June at the soonest). Shaky's definitely not overly fast (or really any kind of fast) and his lateral agility isn't terribly fantastic either, but he's got good burst, good COD, and excellent vision. I'm expecting to see his name called anywhere between the 6th round comp picks and the end of the draft, as he's still got potential as a big (if short... 5'11", 202 lbs) WR in sub-packages.

    Personally, I still prefer Zona's Nic Grigsby just because he's a capable scat-back, returner, pass-blocker, and receiver (needs to improve on the route-tree that he's capable of running out of the slot, but the fundamentals are obviously there)... and he's got superior quicks (5'11", 194 lbs., sub-4.4 speed, sub-1.5s burst, sub-4.2s lateral agility... and the guy's got a 43.5" vertical as a RB - that's half a foot better than Hankerson to put it in context).
     
  21. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Maybe... I'm still thinking Tandon Doss in the 3rd round has AJ written all over it if we take a WR. A lot is going to depend on where we go with #50, cuz I don't think AJ can go three picks into any draft without feeling the need to take a "playmaker".
     
  22. CoronaDoug

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    This is true!

    I am not sure if we are looking to replace Sproles or if the new kick off rule bought him another year. I would rather we get a WR or CB as a return guy. I am not sold on RB's as returners.
     
  23. The LBC

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    I doubt Sproles takes a one-year contract from us if that's all we offer; and I can't see AJ offering him more than that considering his contributions have diminished each of the years that we paid him absorbent amounts of money on the franchise tender.

    And I'm not the biggest fan of RB's as returners either, but it kills two birds with one stone. I'm content to let Boonah! be the 3rd RB for us next season - particularly since I think that people here are going to be surprised by Frank Summers and that he'll likely push Hester for a decent chunk of playing time. I'm just a big Grigsby fan and I see a utility player in him that can kill many birds with a single stone.

    To be perfectly honest, if we are situated WR depth wise where we don't need him starting, I'm perfectly fine with Crayton returning kicks and punts for us (people forget that it was not long ago at all that he was an extremely effective returner for Dallas). The most logical place to draft a returner if we're going to grab one is WR because that could effectively make Goodman expendable (his value at WR is somewhat diminished now that Seyi has passed him by in development and production; so his primary value to this team is as a S/T'er and if a guy comes along that's equal or better to his potential as a S/T'er and offers more polish/ceiling as a receiver then he's expendable in my book). What I want, more than a returner, is for us to spend a pick to bring in a guy with elite gunner capabilities. THAT, particularly with the new kickoff rules, would do a world of difference for our team because there are still going to be plenty of returners that try and bring the ball out from decent depth into their own endzone.
     
  24. CoronaDoug

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    Bill Belichick is a genius. He is on ESPN being interviewed by Berman. They have the first pick in the second round. Berman asked him if anyone has called to trade for the pick. Bill said that there have been a few and there may a big QB push at the top. He is baiting those that are looking for a QB to trade up with them.
     
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    Been saying this for a while. I hate the man personally, but I respect the hell out of him as a coach and a personnel manager. He really is the second coming of Paul Brown (and on a slight off-shoot of that, seriously... how the hell did the apple - Mike Brown - fall THAT FAR from the tree - his dad?), or at worst Bill Walsh.
     
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