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Melvin Ingram?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by eoconnor101, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. eoconnor101

    eoconnor101 BoltTalker

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    Any news on Melvin Ingram? I know he was ineligible for the first six games and I know he's rehabbing now with some weights and boxing.

    I still think the team has a long way to go but they don't look like a crumbly team, these guys are playing hard for McCoy even when the talent isn't there on paper.

    Just saying if Luiget and Reyes can keep playing like they did last night and Teo develops and all of a sudden we have Johnson and Ingram back then our D is looking at least average (well except maybe for Cox).

    Throw in a non fumbling Matthews and V brown and Allen stepping up to the plate and I could see 9-7 happening. Before the first game v Houston I thought 8-8 would be optimistic, after Freeney and Floyd got knocked out for the season I have to admit I thought 7-9 would be optimistic.
     
  2. robdog

    robdog Code Monkey Staff Member Administrator

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    I thought he was going to be out the entire season.
     
  3. matilack

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    He's on PUP I believe, he's eligible to return in week 7.
     
  4. Lance19

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    Chargers.com posted this (below) back in August, I believe. In theory, Ingram could be getting started now.
    In practice, though, I suspect that the fact that the Chargers haven't said a peep about him returning
    any time soon, is probably bad news for those of us who want to see 54 getting after it in the near future...

    Screen Shot 2013-10-15 at 5.09.23 PM.png http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Chargers-Place-Three-on-Reserve/8cb948d8-3427-4960-bf73-6bdfa8d4a055


    PUP is a little confusing, because there's two different PUP lists...and since Ingram tore his
    ACL long before the season began, it would be reasonable to think he'd be on the "Preseason PUP" but he's not...
    he's on the more restrictive "Regular Season PUP"

    http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyo...-physically-unable-to-perform-pup-list-rules/
     
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  5. eoconnor101

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    Or they are keeping it under the radar so O line coaches aren't planning their blocking assignments correctly.

    Nah, the bolts aren't that clever, are they?
     
  6. Lance19

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    I doubt that a team with this cranky a fan base (and already 3 games behind 2 different division rivals)
    is in any position to be hiding good news.

    I'd expect them to be shouting it from the rooftops if Ingram was close to ready...to keep fans from giving up...

    (not that I wouldn't love for them to be "playin' possum" on this)
     
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  7. SuperCharger92

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    I follow him on Instagram, and every since August actually, he has posted rigorous drills with hitting bags, etc. He posted one a few weeks ago with very high intensity.

    I think the goal is to get him back after the Bye week, as pretty much everyone else who is injured -- JJ, Ingram, Butler, Taylor, Rinehart.

    If we head into the bye week at 4-3, we could be in Wild Card contention. Redskins, Dolphins, Giants, Raiders, and Chiefs are winnable games. Chiefs and Raiders, if we can win those at home and possibly get a surprise win against the Broncos or Bengals this team could be 10-6. But you never know with this team, they could end up going 6-10. So, I will remain optimistic, but realistic.

    But, it will be crucial to get healthier after that Bye week.
     
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  8. Lance19

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    Well, I'm probably a little behind the times on the tech side

    (until 5 minutes ago, I thought "Insta-Gram" was the site for mature escorts) Screen Shot 2013-10-15 at 7.35.00 PM.png

    so I didn't know about his "high intensity" postings.
    It stills seems a bit more optimistic than realistic, to me,
    but hey, I'll take Ingram back Week 9 or Week 14...your post makes me feel a little better...
     
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  9. eoconnor101

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    I believe it was on his Twitter feed, which I have to admit I don't follow anyone on Twitter but was looking for any updates on him where he said he was doing some pretty heavy workouts boxing and working on balance and footwork. Didn't sound like a man who was limping around the house in his PJs.

    I think earliest he's getting any reps is after the bye, but if we had him in with JJ and Butler, and he looked anything as good as he looked smashing Drew Brees in the face last year (never a penalty if it's not Brees/Manning/Brady), we got a chance for a real front 7. Throw in a running game like last night and all you really need is Rivers to be a game manager. But yeah, optimistic but realistic pretty much sums it up.

    Who knows maybe Manning will break his arm next week.
     
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  10. Lance19

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    So true. God knows the Chargers have had to re-org, re-org & re-org after repeated debilitating injuries.

    Of course, I certainly would never wish any bad fortune for Peyton...
    but in the NFL, big-time, season-changing injuries do happen every day...

    Peyton.png
     
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  11. Joy Division

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    Per the UT today:

    Melvin Ingram is eligible to rejoin the Chargers in practice.

    That doesn't mean he will. At least, for now.

    The outside linebacker was sidelined from practice and games the first six weeks of the season, as required for players on the Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list. He can return to practice anytime today through Nov. 19, but he won't this week.

    He is not considered ready at this time, a team source said.

    Ingram is known to be optimistic about returning this year from a torn anterior cruciate ligament. The 24-year-old suffered the left knee injury on May 14 and is less than five months removed from May 21 reconstructive surgery.

    An offseason rule change makes Ingram's return more feasible than it'd be in years past

    In 2012, a PUP player was similarly required to be sidelined the first six weeks. He then had a three-week window in which he could start practicing. After a practice period not to exceed 21 days, the team was required to either activate him to the 53-man roster or place him on season-ending injured reserve.

    Ingram is not required to practice these first three weeks. He has five instead, a wider window that takes him through the first day after Week 11 concludes, or Nov. 19.

    The pass rusher's return, if possible, would be welcome.

    For now, it will wait.

    Credit: Michael Gehlken
     
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  12. EOTL

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    We all know that the Chargers are in desperate need for a pass rusher, but I wouldn't want to bring Ingram back too quickly. Just as it was with Derrick Rose and his torn ACL last year, I'd rather see Melvin take it easy this season and come back strong next year.

    I will, however, make one exception in this case: we sneak into the Super Bowl.
     
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  13. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Why push him back if he isn't fully recovered from the injury let alone the surgery?
     
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    I think the answer is that they won't push him back unless he's ready. But it's not unreasonable to think he'll be ready by mid-November or December. That's 5 months from his surgery which is within the normal window for a return. Of course, not all ACL injuries are the same. Some repairs are more complicated and require longer recovery time. I'm sure Melvin has the best surgeons and physicians advising him on when to return.
     
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    When he does, I am not sure he will be a spark that ignites Bolt dominance right away. He will have to come up to game speed.
     
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  17. Riff Raff

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    Oh ye of little faith .... ;)
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Yeah, so did Kellen Winslow, just sayin.
     
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  19. Riff Raff

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    Melvin actually IS a freak of nature. Winslow just thought he was.
     
  20. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Kellen Winslow of the Chargers rewrote the book for the tight-end position. He retired early due to a knee injury in 87, I'm sure he had the best doctors and surgeons also. If you have never sustained a major injury you'll never know what it's like coming back.
     
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  21. EOTL

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    True, though modern medicine has made leaps in bounds since 87 (or so I've been told), so its tough to make the comparison. Admittedly, I'd like to see what Gale Sayers' career would have been like if he had 2013's training, conditioning, and therapy techniques at his disposal. It's a shame his career ended so quickly.

    (Btw... 100th post! Level up!)
     
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    I've also never been completely ran over by a car, but I can make the general
    assumption that it's not easy to come back from.
    Here's 5 other things that I'm pretty sure are difficult to come back from even though
    I've never had to deal with them:
    1. Cancer
    2. Gorilla rape
    3. Gangrene
    4. Divorce
    5. Slavery
    bonus: The Plague

    Although my last time in Vegas would likely
    rank very close to the recovery time of ACL surgery.
    I must be getting old...
     
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  23. Lance19

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    You had me at..."Gorilla rape."

    You had me at Gorilla Rape.png

    (I've also never come back from an evening with Emily Ratajkowski...but I've thought about it...and thought about it...and...)
     
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    Gorilla's are terrifying normally, the thought of being raped by one just has me curled in the fetal position in horror. PS: that was a very specific thing you came up with there.
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I'd have to imagine being the french fry bobbing champion would be difficult to come back from too!
     
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    Pointyearedog I love the smell of football in the morning.

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    Or sliding down a razor blade and landing in a pool of alcohol...
     
  27. Lance19

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    Wait...now that I think about it...maybe I was hasty.

    (I initially just assumed the gorilla was the...uh...but if not...hmmm...)
     
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    I think that's what you're supposed to do if you're attacked by an angry grizzly. To a horny gorilla, that's a major turn on. Don't ask me how I know.
     
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    We have a lot of people here whom seem very familiar with amerous primates... well if its your thang....
     
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    I rectum they's a matin alrite.
     

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