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Mission Valley not a stadium option

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Blue Bolt, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Chargers won’t be pivoting back to Mission Valley site

    Speculation recently has emerged in San Diego that if the Chargers’ preferred downtown “convadium” plan becomes impractical or otherwise unworkable, the Chargers would accept a stadium at the Mission Valley site as a fallback. The Chargers are making it known that this is not the case.

    By way of background, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that some of those opposing the team have been pushing the idea that the Chargers would be forced to accept a stadium in Mission Valley — and that if the Chargers leave San Diego could get another NFL team to play in Mission Valley. But the Chargers have made their choice, and they won’t be going back.

    The team’s decision arose from a belief that the best chance to win an election comes from a downtown stadium, that the downtown site allows the Mission Valley location to be used for other purposes, and the failure of the currently planned stadium vote in November and a “pivot” to Mission Valley could push the final decision into 2020, or later.

    On Friday, Chargers owner Dean Spanos sent a letter to Donna Frye, a former San Diego city council member from the Mission Valley area. In the letter, a copy of which PFT has obtained, Spanos says that there will be not “pivoting” back to the Mission Valley site.

    “We want to be as clear as we can possibly be about this issue,” Spanos writes. “We did not choose downtown over Mission Valley casually. Downtown is a plan that can work for the community and our fans. We have tried to make it clear that Mission Valley will not work for the NFL or for the community. The Mayor asked us to make a choice. We made the rational business choice, and the rational choice for the community-at-large. That choice is downtown. Mission Valley is not an option for us, now or in the future.”

    So it’s downtown or nothing for the Chargers in San Diego.
     
  2. JohnnyX

    JohnnyX 2017 Chargers Head Coach

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    Downtown or L.A. It's your move Faulconer.
     
  3. House of Hayne

    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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    Fu&k
    Do we know how many signatures are remaining
    Or is it so low that we are going to LA
     
  4. House of Hayne

    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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  5. Nomad

    Nomad Very Senior Member

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    I don't think it will make a difference. I expect them to get about 35 - 40% if they are lucky. I think the 2017 season will be played in LA.
     
  6. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    There's zero chance of that...... The Inglewood project won't be ready by then. There's no way Dean is paying millions to play in a temporary site, when he can play in Qualcomm for free. He'll move, when the new digs are ready, which won't be until 2019.
     
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  7. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Chargers are going back to Mission Valley.
     
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  8. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    But if he passes on LA next year doesn't that open the door for the Raiders?
     
  9. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Dean just has to make a commitment, that doesn't mean he has to actually move the franchise by that date.
     
  10. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    If that's the case, I agree with you that he won't actually move the team until Kronke's stadium is up.
     
  11. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Of course he might have trouble selling tickets in San Diego if residents know he's moving the team in a year or two for sure and is only sitting there til the stadium is ready. It'd kind of be a Memphis Oilers type situation, only worse because it's the home team moving instead of just operating as a transient.

    That may (or may not?) sway him in that scenario to play in the Rose Bowl anyway.

    I guess it all depends on whether or not he feels he'd earn more with more ticket sales and higher costs there or less ticket sales and lower costs in SD....or if he's convinced he'd sell tickets in spite of that dynamic.
     
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  12. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Remember, we're talking about Dean here...... He'll wait until the 11th hour to make a decision, and then it will be too late to rent the Rose Bowl. We're stuck with them, at least until 2019. ;)
     
  13. House of Hayne

    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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    Dean should have stuck with his first plan to stay in MV
    Now he is up sh!t creek without a paddle, and using his mouth to row.
    Let's hope it works out
    Not holding my breath
     
  14. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Say hello to your new San Diego Raidersssssssssssss!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the Murph today where the SD Raiders play the LA Chargers, we should be in for a real bang up show today folks!
     
  15. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

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    Not really...
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/04/mark-davis-reiterates-his-commitment-to-las-vegas/

    “The main thing is finding out if the public contribution is going to be there,” Davis said. “Whatever private money is needed, we’ll come up with that.”
     
  16. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I don't think so. I believe the downtown site will happen. Only question is, will it require 2/3's majority or 50% + 1 vote to pass.
     
  18. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I hope you're right. Being so far away doesn't really help me to understand what is actually going on with this whole mess.
     
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  19. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    I thought it was 25 or 6 to 4...
     
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  20. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Only in Chicago.
     
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  21. Lance19

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    Trust me, Hex, I'm 5 miles from the stadium, and I sure don't understand!
     
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  22. powayslugger

    powayslugger Feckless Slappy

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    Dean can just go F himself.
     
  23. House of Hayne

    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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    Yea you got it
    That's why last year was my 11th and last year as a season ticket holder
    Dean f'ed up big time
     
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  24. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Same, except it was 12 for me.
     
  25. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah! That'll convince him to stay in San Diego!
     
  26. Blue Bolt

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    Dean fucks up stuff....... that's what he does. ;)
     
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  27. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Even if he was fine with going back to the Valley, to say that destroys leverage
     
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  28. House of Hayne

    House of Hayne Chargers Smash

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    If he gets shut out in the voting he will change his mind
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Does anybody really know what time it is?
     
  30. Blue Bolt

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    Does anyone really care? ;)
     

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