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Motivated Turner visits Cowboys

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ChargerRay, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. ChargerRay

    ChargerRay #FireMcCoy #FirePagano Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/columns/story?columnist=werder_ed&id=4728809

    The offensive genius with two Super Bowl rings whose play-calling delivered Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin -- and soon Emmitt Smith -- from football hell to the Hall of Fame makes his first big-game appearance at the football palace known as JerryWorld.

    With him, San Diego Chargers coach Norv Turner will bring his own team of 53 winners and one decidedly personal agenda Sunday. Because he is not the Cowboys' coach, Turner will be motivated to prove that he should have been.

    But when Bill Parcells resigned in 2007, Jerry Jones chose the head coach who was fired in Denver and Buffalo rather than the one fired in Washington and Oakland.

    So in a game the Cowboys absolutely have to win Sunday, Turner's competitive zeal will demand that he use the occasion to remind Jones of the monumental mistake he committed in hiring Wade Phillips, an opinion more than a few people have even before kickoff.

    According to people who know him, Turner will possess an enormous urge to demonstrate that he's a better head coach than Phillips, that he's a better offensive game planner and playcaller than Jason Garrett, and that he has developed Philip Rivers into a quarterback who can statistically outperform Tony Romo and win on the Cowboys' field when it really matters.

    But Turner does not want to seem spiteful. He downplayed the personal vengeance angle, noting that San Diego and Dallas are first-place teams competing for playoff berths.

    "That really is a nonissue with me," Turner said of Jones' decision. "You could only hire one guy, and it went to Wade, and I thought they made a great selection."

    At the time Jones was making his decision on a replacement for Parcells, Turner was confident that his incredible reputation for developing quarterbacks would be ideal for Romo. Convinced that Romo needed to be coached, Turner thought the timing seemed perfect, especially given that the quarterback was recovering psychologically from his crushing playoff bobble in Seattle.

    Romo demonstrated after taking over for Drew Bledsoe that he could improvise and create, but his game required refinement. Turner is a technician. He emphasizes proper mechanics and probably would have convinced Romo long before now to abandon some of his sandlot instincts and to understand the importance of protecting the football.

    One thing that undermined Turner's candidacy was that Jones had already hired Garrett to an undetermined position. Ironically, before interviewing with Jones, Garrett asked Turner to prep him for the meeting. It went well enough that Jones hired Garrett for a position to be determined by whomever the Cowboys appointed to be head coach.

    Turner tried in vain to convince Jones that Garrett wasn't ready for the vast responsibility of preparing an entire offense because he offered no previous experience as the playcaller. Turner proposed that he would develop Romo and simultaneously mentor Garrett, whom Jones viewed as someone who would eventually be the team's head coach.

    Turner also had to contend with the fact Jones wanted more return from all the huge money and high draft picks the team invested in defensive players, and he was committed to the 3-4 defense. In addition to being the last to have an audience with Jones during the hiring process, Turner thought revealing to Jones that Ron Rivera -- who also interviewed for the top job -- would come to Valley Ranch as defensive coordinator would be the masterstroke that would clinch his own return to Dallas.

    Ultimately, Jones decided that he would essentially be paying two offensive coordinators if he paired Turner and Garrett, and he doubted Rivera's ability to coach the 3-4 because his background was in the 4-3.

    "I think Wade's track record, success he had, his expertise defensively, a lot of things went into it," Turner said. "I wasn't surprised, so when you're not surprised, the disappointment is different."

    The Cowboys owner eventually decided the team was more likely to achieve his goals with Phillips and Garrett than with Turner and Rivera. Now, all four have their usual sources of motivation as well as some unique personal component Sunday.

    It is undeniable that Phillips has improved the defense, just as he did in San Diego. The Chargers led the NFL in sacks with Phillips as defensive coordinator in 2006; the Cowboys led the league in the same category last season.

    But that could merely make the point that Phillips is one of those people quite capable of being a coordinator but lacking the ability to be a successful head coach.

    As he has observed from the owner's suite that resembles a luxury apartment, Jones has begun to accumulate his own doubts about Phillips. Vikings coach Brad Childress and Eagles coach Andy Reid have signed contract extensions recently. Jones remains unwilling to commit to Phillips beyond the four remaining games on the schedule.
     
  2. PowderLove

    PowderLove Former Mod, Current Slacker

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    Our situation with Norv is comical to me.

    He's like everyone's favorite punching bag, who knows that he is. And yet our team wins, he keeps a plain face, and even though people want to punch him it's getting harder and harder to do so.

    He just won't crack under all the hate flung at him when it is flung at him, and he motors right through it! It's really amazing, considering how supposed tough guy Rex Ryan started crying after a loss, yet Norv probably received death threats last year and maybe early this year. What did he do? Did his "pock marked" face shed any tears? Nope...he just said we had to get better and we did. Amazing, really. He must have nerves of steel or something.

    Do I like him? It's getting hard not to. "I thought they made a great selection." is such a wonderfully sarcastic remark coming from such a maligned coach. He probably said it with a boy scout face too.
     
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  3. Buck Melanoma

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    Many players have been quoted as saying that Norv is the stabilizing force on the team. He keeps them on an even keel & focused on the task at hand.

    He ain't pretty, particularly fiery, or overly news-worthy, but he's getting it done.
     
  4. Kwak

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    He keeps them from getting too jacked up. We have seen how a team that is too jacked up performs on the field....2006....
     
  5. bigmike.x.09

    bigmike.x.09 Well-Known Member

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    Norv "Poker Face" Turner.

    Cue Lady GaGa...

     
  6. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I wasn't real happy with the choice of Norv as our head coach. After awhile and reading about him, I figured at least he could help Philip progress and be an elite NFL QB, that he has done.

    Norv reminds me of Coryell in so many ways, he can tear your defense apart but he sure as hell can't make one work. I figure that's why Ron decided to stay here, he knew it would be his defense and no one else would be able to take the credit.

    Norv probably hasn't even given this game any more significance than what it is, a game between two playoff teams. I highly doubt he went into the player's meeting and asked them to beat Jone's/Wade for him for bragging right's after the final gun.

    I think it's funny how the national media is starting to back track, and give Norv credit for holding this team together with all the injuries we've had. Heck even LT has been shown to hug Norv at the end of games, his attitude is even better this year than the previous two.

    It look's like our guy's want to get this thing done and have bought into Norv 110%. I like the way our player's don't seem to freak out during the game and get all flustered as in year's past. Norv has truly rubbed off on these dude's and Norv is crazy as a fox.
     
  7. Nomadic Bolt Fan

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    Or Eric Cartman...

     
  8. Buck Melanoma

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    Another thing that's funny - this cat Werder is likely just full of **** & trying to get another angle going to pump up his importance. You're right - I really doubt that Norv gives a crap what Jerry Jones thinks & any coach worth a damn ALWAYS wants to beat the guy on the opposite sideline.
     
  9. Kwak

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    Gotta stir up the pre-game drama for BIG D. :lol:

    "Jerry??"
    "Yes Norv. Good to hear your voice"
    "Jerry.....I'm coming for you!!" :icon_evil:

    I am sure Norv will get a bit of satisfaction from the win, but he his trying to beat Dallas and stay in that #2 seat for the playoffs. Need to keep ahead of Denver as well.
     

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