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New York Jets strength coach Sal Alosi trips Dolphin - Punishment too harsh?

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  1. Scout200

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    The NFL suspended New York Jets strength coach Sal Alosi for the rest of the regular season and the playoffs without pay for his intentional tripping of Miami Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll on Sunday. He was also fined $25,000.

    Some people feel that his punishment is too harsh while others think it should be more severe.. what are your thoughts?
     
  2. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    I think the Alosi Phalanx Alignment should be investigated by the league office.

    This would mean Rex Ryan had those individuals conspicuously line up (look at the video again) and impede the opposing players as the opportunity presented itself.

    It also opens a case for a lawsuit by Alosi against his former employer - unless they both had a "wink-nod" agreement to re-hire Alosi after the season concluded and the presumed dust had settled.
     
  3. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Alosi could be playing Clint Eastwood here in go ahead and fire me and "Make My Day".

    If Alosi has proof his employer Rex Ryan and the Jets told him to stand tight on the sidelines in the "Alosi Alignment" and give them a little "something" - game on.
     
  4. mainstayjames

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    Initially I thought he should be fired. Now, after seeing what his punishment was, I'm on the fence. I think that they got the punishment just about right on this one... though part of me still thinks he should get canned and that garbage like that has no place in sports. It doesn't help that I have a hatred for the Jets either... as payback I'd like to see Rex Ryan get wiped out on the sideline like Charlie Weis did a couple years ago, with his legs crumbling under the weight of his own massive fupa.

    Just End Their Season
     
  5. AnteaterCharger

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    I still think he should be fired and this be fully investigated, this is just so messed up on so many independent levels it has to be investigated and punished as harshly as possible
     
  6. Brundlefly

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    Not severe enough.
     
  7. gsxr

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    The video did show what looked like the entire staff over there...It makes me wonder...The fine and sus was good but I think more investigation is in order. Maybe it was set up by ryan...ooh...Mmmmm...dump em all. Hollywood got to them and they wanted to be on tv some more.
     
  8. SDRaiderH8er

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    I wonder why the Dolphins just didnt run a sweep to his side, put a whole lotta blockers out front and run right at him.
     
  9. ThunderHorse17

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    Damn this.

    I didnt see this trip, but hearing about it reminded me of the last time I saw any sideline coach tripping a player back in the 50s?? in a Border war between Tigers and Jayhawks.

    That shi is so uncalled for, the runner should get something similar to a free kick in soccer. Like a 2.5 sec start from the sideline while the rest of the players assume their last position before then and they wait 5 sec before they can pursue the ball carrier. Offending teams better hope their secondarys are/were in position with the Safetys. Or this would be a automatic score and make the coaches think again about tripping a player.
     
  10. BeerGuy

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    Carroll is known to take that same route almost every time.....those coaches were lined up there purposely....if you watch the footage you will see that the person next to Alosi was already leaning in with a shoulder in the event that the knee didn't work....and every coach on that sideline was looking towards Carroll instead of the ball carrier, which makes no sense.

    Thigh Gate....I love it....and the team is imploding........
     
  11. turbo_turtle

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    Great point. All of the Coaches were in Line ready to do something that was not nice at all. Just my .02 that the entire coaching staff that was in that line be suspended. Just my opinion there.
     
  12. mainstayjames

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    Here's the Charlie Weis vid... and apparently Jets players came out today and said that the coaches & inactive players were told to lineup there to slow down/interfere with anyone coming down the field to gain an advantage. Rumor is they've been doing it for a couple weeks now...




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    Cuz they have more class than the ******* jets.
     
  14. powayslugger

    powayslugger Feckless Slappy

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    it sure does look odd doesn't it? all those green shirts lined up in a row right along the sideline. Alosi deserves what he is getting as a punishment. Unsportsmanlike conduct and being "that stupid" should have a pretty stiff penalty. Let's face it that was not regular stupid but Rex Ryan stupid. I think it came down from Rexy himself.
     
  15. BeerGuy

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    To be clear, the Jets suspended Alosi, not the league. The Jets consulted with the league, but they took it upon themselves to suspend the coach.

    Now, not to play conspiracy theorist....but....if I were the team that instructed my coaches to take Carroll out I would find a way to quietly refund this guys $25,000 fine, AND, get him his game checks to make him whole. The league has no real say in it because the Jets are "self-policing" their employees. They don't want this guy on Oprah, crying about providing for his family and spilling Rex-crement's secrets......
     
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    The guy makes $200k from what I heard. Alosi loses 3 paychecks plus $25,000.

    Alosi loses $62,500 in fines and lost wages.

    Next year the Jets re-hire Alosi at $275,000.00 covering his lost wages and fine and avoiding the disgrace of this being Rex Ryans way of doing business.

    It is a JOKE.
     
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    This is the way I see it.

    Alosi has the Jets by the nuts.

    Alosi is taking the fall now (with a job guaranteed next year and most likely more salary money to compensate him)

    or

    Alosi blows the whistle he was ORDERED to line up and impede whatever player came their way which is even worse news. Now Alosi has grounds for illegal termination.

    That is the way I read it.
     
  18. Scout200

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    Alosi Update:

    Jets suspend Alosi indefinitely! The team found "new information" that the Alosi "instructed" five players to stand in a wall before he tripped Dolphins Nolan Carroll...
     
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    I think that Alosi should be fired and the Jets fined ONE MILLION dollars. In the NFL money speaks and a cool million speaks volumes!
     
  21. bigmike.x.09

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    There's no place like people like that in sports period. Get him out of here, don't bring him back.
     
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    None of those A-Holes even flinched. They were all standing there like they were playing "red rover".
     
  23. Lightning

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    YEP! they are all standing there in the exact same position, every single one of them with their hands in their pullovers and in the same exact postion of their legs in stance and RIGHT on the line....seriously a little too coincidental to me....reeks of a concious gameplan.
     
  24. Pointyearedog

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    December 15 2010 Last updated at 02:25 PM ET
    Sal Alosi Now Suspended Indefinitely After Jets Find 'New Information'

    By FanHouse Staff
    Sal Alosi's punishment for tripping Nolan Carroll has been extended by the Jets after they learned that the strength and conditioning coach ordered a human wall along the sideline during a punt return.

    "Over the last day as we continued our investigation we discovered some new information," Tannenbaum said. "The players at the Miami game were instructed by Sal to stand where they were forcing the gunner in the game to run around them. Based on that new information we've suspended Sal indefinitely, pending further review.

    "Specifically when Miami was punting they were asked to stand there by him," he said.

    Alosi was originally suspended for the season and forced to pay a $25,000 fine. Tannenbaum, who said Alosi acted completely alone in the decision, left the door open for the team to possibly fire him down the line.

    "All options are certainly on the table we're going to complete the review and get all the information," Tannenbaum said. "[Special teams coach] Mike Westhoff was not involved, Rex Ryan was not involved, but we just want to be thorough and get all the information."

    Tannenbaum said the team informed the league right away once discovering the "new information," and that the league agrees with the Jets' decision and is looking into the matter as well.

    There's been discussion of late as to whether the Jets intentionally employ tactics designed to interfere with gunners on special teams. Alosi originally denied that the players forming a wall had been instructed to do so by anyone.
     
  25. paddyirishman

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    Personally I think hes an effing disgrace and should lose his job for it.Hes crossed a line.
     
  26. Buck Blincoe

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    Hang the bastard.
     
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    Man, that is hilarious! Jabba the Jet and Princess Sanchez! Who's that little guy on the right though? Alosi? Lol.
     
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    Here is Head Coach Bill Bellichick doing the Alosi shuffle in 2004.

    Check out this video and the coach is showing how to impede a player.
     
  29. Lightning

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    Not only one player but two! The one who went out of bounds AND the one coming up from the left of the screen...the damned jackhole looks like on of those wind-up robots trying to bump into any opposing player within reach! hahaha
     

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