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NFL owners could opt out of CBA with union as early as Tuesday

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by wrbanwal, May 16, 2008.

  1. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    What's it all mean??

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3399645

    NFL owners might opt out of the existing labor agreement as soon as Tuesday when they hold their next meetings in Atlanta, according to league sources.

    One management source called it a "high likelihood" that the owners will exercise their option to terminate the agreement, which will trigger a number of alternatives, including a potential work stoppage by 2011. Another source said "be prepared" for the action, although it was "not a 100 percent proposition yet."

    An NFL Players Association source said, "We expect it to happen."

    A league spokesman said the NFL had no comment.

    The decision to exercise the option is not expected to have any significant impact on the next two seasons, 2008 and 2009.

    However, by opting out of the agreement that was struck on March 9, 2006, the NFL would play 2010 without a salary cap, unrestricted free agency for players would be increased from four years to six years and the orderly selection of college players in the annual draft would not exist after 2011. These "poison pills" are designed to motivate both the owners and the union to work toward a new collective bargaining agreement.

    When the current CBA was agreed upon amid much acrimony between high- and low-revenue clubs, the deal included options for both the owners and players union to terminate the terms early in either 2008 or 2009. The deadline for opting out this year is Nov. 8 but league sources say many owners want to pull the trigger now.

    Three owners contacted by ESPN.com declined to comment, with one joking, "The fine is so high for speaking a word about this that you would have to buy my children's shoes."

    The players union will not be caught off-guard by an early opt out.

    NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw had his first official meeting with NFL management leaders two weeks ago as a "feeling out" session. Upshaw made it clear to league officials that the union is not about to "give back" what has gained in collective bargaining.

    During the NFLPA's annual meeting in mid-March, much of the union's agenda was spent discussing the options of a looming labor battle. Upshaw warned of a possibility of an owners' lockout in 2011.

    The NFL has not had a work stoppage since 1987, when an ill-fated union strike resulted in three regular-season games being played by "replacement players" before the union broke ranks.

    Upshaw took over as the NFLPA executive director and decertified the union, which led to an anti-trust lawsuit that the players won in federal court. That ultimately led to the breakthrough 1993 labor agreement which led to unrestricted free agency for players and a salary cap.

    Upshaw has told his player ranks that decertification is again a possibility, along with other options, although the union is not inclined to strike because football careers are relatively brief.
     
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  2. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    It will be interesting to see how Upshaw, the owners and Goodell screw this up.
     
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  3. swishbish33

    swishbish33 BoltTalker

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    Losing the salary cap would be awful. I believe part of the reason the NFL is so popular is the "level playing field." I understand that there is a lot of wiggle room with bonuses, backloading, etc, but I don't think we want it to turn into MLB.
     
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  4. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    I barely pay much attention to baseball anymore because of what it has become. I hope the NFL is smart enough to see that what it has is working.
     
  5. maestro876

    maestro876 BoltTalker

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    I've started to consider it from another direction. I've heard a lot of owners and GMs say that the salary cap doesn't mean as much as it did, because it's actually quite high and goes up every year. Then there's the revenue-sharing, so each team has access to relatively the same amount of funds. This seems to me like it would act as a de-facto salary cap without the actual legal cap on payroll.

    I think what would be beneficial would be a rookie payroll cap, to eliminate the enormous amounts of money 1st-rounders get paid, and ends up getting wasted when they bust.
     
  6. Thumper

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    Best case senario. The NFL has no salary cap for a short time. We sign all our players. They re-institute the cap, but we'd have to get an exemption because all the player are already under contract.

    Hey, in my world it could happen.
     
  7. maestro876

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    It would not surprise me at all if that happened. And they would have to have an exemption for any players signed during the cap-less period.
     
  8. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    Hell yeah man. That's quite a best case scenario.

    My concern is actually as much about guaranteed contracts as it is about the salary cap. The players are going to lobby hard for guaranteed contracts and that could screw the league up as bad as losing the salary cap.
     
  9. Retired Catholic

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    This has been on my mind for some time. It may, in fact, be an element in the owner's stance. Team's like the Raiders and some others who've been spending themselves into a cap grave might find themselves a way out. KC would be helped if a substantial number of their butt load of draftees make the squad. An awful lot of teams would be able to lock up key players, especially QB's.
     
  10. Electric Chair

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    I have the utmost faith in Goodell making this whole situation FUBAR.
     
  11. Rainman

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    That does seem to be the one thing we can count on. :icon_sad:
     

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