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NFL STRIKE LOOMS

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Trumpet_Man, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    GOODELL, UPSHAW NEED TO START TALKING NOW

    With growing indications that the owners will exercise in November 2008 their prerogative to pull the plug two years early on the labor deal, and in light of the administrative headaches that will arise in the ensuing last capped year under the deal of 2009, we think it would be wise for Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw to begin talking sooner rather than later about extending the deal.

    If talks don't begin until November, it will be too late to avoid the last capped year. And if the owners bite the bullet that is the last capped year, they might be more inclined to take an uncapped year -- especially since an uncapped year won't be the financial free for all that most people think it will be. For example, guys who already have contracts for 2010 won't be entitled to join in the bonanza, and only players with six seasons of service will be able to hit the unrestricted market. Also, specific restrictions will apply to the ability of the final eight teams from the prior season to sign free agents.

    And with Upshaw already talking tough about the refusal of the union to reduce its share of Total Football Revenue, the volume will only increase as various owners chime in with their views on whether the numbers need to change. In turn, that will make it harder for something to get done before the point of no return is crossed.

    Of course, it might already be too late to work out a deal. As Upshaw recently pointed out, this isn't hockey. The owners aren't losing money. They're making it. A lot of it.

    So the true source of the consternation here could be the ever-vague notion of supplemental revenue sharing. The last CBA hinged on the owners coming up with an acceptable plan for addressing the ever-growing disparity among teams like the Pats and 'Skins and teams like the Cards and Jags. It could be that the teams who are making the money resent the idea of giving it up to teams who aren't, and that the teams who aren't making it believe they aren't getting enough.

    Regardless, the league and the union are on a collision course. And unless they start trying to work this situation out right now, there might not be enough time to do it later.
     
  2. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Wonderfukinful.

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  3. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    The NFL has what is called "The Final 8 Plan" in place.

    This basically lists the restrictions placed on playoff teams on how they can or can not go about signing players in the event **** hits the fan (uncapped year/no salary cap).

    http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Article_XXI_Final_Eight_Plan.pdf

    December 6, 2006 DRAFT
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    ARTICLE XXI
    FINAL EIGHT PLAN

    Section 1. Application: The provisions of this Article shall apply only in any League Year during the term of this Agreement in which no Salary Cap is in effect.

    Section 2. Top Four Teams: Each of the four Clubs that participated in the NFC and AFC Championship games the Prior League Year shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player Contract, except: (a) any Unrestricted Free Agent who acquired that status as a result of the NFL waiver system; (b) any Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the last League Year of the player’s most recent Player Contract; and (c) any Unrestricted Free Agent signed
    pursuant to Section 4 below.

    Section 3. Next Four Teams: Each of the four playoff Clubs that lost in the immediately preceding playoff games to the four Clubs that participated in the NFC and AFC Championship games the Prior League Year shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player contract, except: (a) any unrestricted Free Agent who acquired that status as a result of the NFL waiver system; (b) any Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the last League Year of the
    player’s most recent Player contract; (c) any Unrestricted Free Agent signed pursuant to Section 4 below; and (d) any Unrestricted Free Agent as follows: (i) One such player for a Player Contract that has a first year Salary of $4,925,000 or more;
    and (ii) Any number of such players for a Player Contract that has a first year Salary of no more than $3,275,000 and an annual increase in any future contract years of no more than 30% of the first
    contract year Salary, not including any amount attributed to any signing bonus. In addition, each such Club and each such player entering into a Player Contract pursuant to this Subsection may not renegotiate to increase the amount of Salary to be paid during the term of the Player Contract for a period of one year after the signing date of such contract.

    Section 4. Replacement of Free Agents Signed by Other Club: Each of the eight Clubs subject to the provisions of this Article shall be permitted to negotiate and sign one Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player Contract (“New Player”) for each Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the prior League Year, who has signed with another Club (“Previous Player”), so long as the Player Contract for the New Player shall have a first year Salary of no more than the first year Salary of the Player
    Contract signed by the Previous Player with the New Club, and an annual increase in any future contract years of no more than 30% of the first contract year Salary, excluding any amounts attributable to any signing bonus. In addition, each such Club and each such player entering into a Player Contract pursuant to this Subsection may not renegotiate to increase the amount of Salary to be paid during the term of the Player Contract for a period of one year after the signing date of such contract.

    Section 5. Increases: The amounts specified in this Article ($4,925,000 and $3,275,000) shall increase each League Year following the 2006 League Year by the same percentage as the increase in Projected TR over the prior League Year’s TR (as defined in Article XXIV (Guaranteed League-wide Salary, Salary Cap
    & Minimum Team Salary)). Notwithstanding the foregoing, in no event shall the amounts specified in this Article increase if the Projected TR for the League Year in question is not greater than the highest TR of any previous League Year.

    Section 6. Salary Definition: For purposes of this Article, “Salary” means Paragraph 5 Salary, roster and reporting bonuses, pro-rata portions of signing bonuses, likely to be earned incentive bonuses, and other payments in compensation for the playing of professional football, as defined in Article XXIV (Guaranteed League-wide Salary, Salary Cap & Minimum Team Salary) below.

    Section 7. Trade Limitation: No Club subject to the provisions of this Article may, for one League Year, trade for a player it otherwise would not be permitted to sign as an Unrestricted Free Agent as a result of the provisions in this Article.

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    ARTICLE XXI
    FINAL EIGHT PLAN (CONT.)
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    Section 8. Transition and Franchise Players: Clubs subject to the Final Eight Plan are permitted to negotiate with and sign Transition Players and Franchise Players who otherwise are permitted to negotiate and sign with other Clubs.

    Section 9. Player Tenders: Each of the eight teams subject to the Final Eight Plan may, after the later of July 15 or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, in any League Year in which the Final Eight Plan is in effect, sign any Unrestricted Free Agent whose team did not make the June 1 Tender or whose team subsequently withdrew that Tender.
     
  4. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    The last time the NFL went on strike, we went on strike as well. No tailgaters. :icon_eek:

    Ok, some of us still went but it was not the same obviously with the strike replacement team.
     
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  5. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    that strike signaled a long playoff drought for the Bolts. I hope we don't have to live through something like that again

    :tdown:
     
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  6. PowderLove

    PowderLove Former Mod, Current Slacker

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    Everybody wants money, nobody wants to back down, the people who fund the whole machine get screwed.
     
  7. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Sans KY.
     
  8. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Wellington Mara (Giants) realized in order for the league to survive, the richer teams needed to share the wealth.

    Visionaries such as this dude seem almost forgotten.
     
  9. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    No kidding Kwak. Same **** with the pads in '94. Seems like as soon as the city of San Diego fields a decent pro sports team the leagues strike and everything goes to hell. :tdown:
     
  10. PowderLove

    PowderLove Former Mod, Current Slacker

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    Yup, a young little trout like me has never even heard of that guy. All I hear is, "players want more money, owners want to keep more money." :icon_shrug:
     
  11. Showmeyourbolt

    Showmeyourbolt Well-Known Member

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    Oh boy, the PFT Rumormill
     
  12. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    That is fuked. Here our team is finally on the consistent winning side with a very good shot at going to the big dance this next season and a strike is looming to **** on our party.

    Just fuked up.
     
  13. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    One thing for sure... I'm NOT paying $1,000 to see a replacement team on the field!!! :icon_evil: :icon_evil:

    I hope Goodell realizes how much there is to lose if this strike happens!!! :icon_evil:

    Look what happened to baseball!!! That WAS the American sport until the strike in 94. Then when they threatened to strike again in 03, that destroyed any chance of getting the fan base back.
    Right now, NFL has an amazing product!!! So damn amazing that fans flew to London to attend the first game overseas!!! Just about ALL fans of NFL in America are completely against regular season games overseas but they made the trip anyway!!!

    Most teams today have stadiums that are under ten years old. Those that don't are looking to get new state of the art Stadiums.
    Most NFL games sell out today! Even the teams that are struggling.
    NFL merchandise sales are off the chart!!!
    NFL network has a huge amount of subscribers.

    This strike happens, kiss ALL of that good bye!!!
    NFL will be holding hands with MLB!!!
     
  14. Retired Catholic

    Retired Catholic BoltTalker

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    Bummer. The bright side is my liver buys another year of life.
     
  15. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    There's no way Goodell can let this happen not with the whole spygate thing looming.
     
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    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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  17. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    I think Goodell has done a great job cleaning up the mess.
    Starting with Vick, Pac Man, spygate, and various other garbage.

    Now that NFL is on it's way to growing even bigger, he CAN'T let this happen!!!
     
  18. 400HZ

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    I think this is a big stretch by PFT.

    The only owner with any clout who has really *****ed about the new CBA is Pat Bowlen of the Denver Broncos, and his motives are pretty suspect. There was a news conference early this year when he was talking about his team's effort to rebuild that started this whole thing. He was whining that free agents were too expensive to sign with the new CBA and that his team would have to look more towards the draft. Not everybody saw the obvious connection between his team signing a ****-ton of free agents in the 2007 offseason who failed miserably, and now complaining that free agents are too expensive. To me, the correlation is obvious. Daniel Graham, Sam Adams, Simeon Rice, Travis Henry, Warrick Holdman, Dre Bly, etc etc etc. He's pissed that Mike Shanahan wasted so much of his money on these turds, so he's cutting him off and telling him to build through the draft. He just doesn't want to do it in a manner that would appear to throw Shanahan under the bus.

    That's my theory. Apart from the chronic complainers like Ralph Wilson, this STRIKE LOOMING **** starts with Pat Bowlen and pretty much ends with him.
     
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    400HZ BoltTalker

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    And with the NFL setting new revenue records every year, they aren't going to let things get derailed.
     
  20. Boltdiehard

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    I think the verdict is still out on Goodell especially as it becomes more clear that he and Kraft are sucking face. The only thing he has done is punish some black athletes and made an even bigger mess of spygate. JMO.
     
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    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Florio is a dick but damn he can be spot on. I have read alot of **** on that site and some of it was deadly accurate and some of it sounds like someone on a bad acid trip. The dude has gotten alot better (not much) but his site has exploded. He does not hold back and get sensitive when he gets called out. The dude has balls and is not a sniveling punk like some people in this world.
     
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    In the beginning, it seemed like Goodell was going to handle this situation correctly. He warned Belichick before week one started that they were onto him about the spygating and for most part just not to make it so obvious. But Bilichick got arrogant and ignored him.
    After Billichick ignored the warning, Goodell made it known to the public what the Patsies have been doing.

    With Goodell going after this problem in week one, that tells me that he had hoped to stop it and let the season continue (without being tainted or distraction).
    Most of us agree that the punishment was very minimal but that's going back to the season continuing again.

    Now I am glad that it's being further investigated during the off season but you do have to question why the NFL destroyed the tapes and who personally is responsible for the destruction!!


    It will be interesting. I say "when all is said and done, if Billichick is proven guilty... Fox should be forced to fire him. Also, Patsies should be forced to turn in all of their titles and championship banners. The records will NOT be changed but the Patsies are NOT allowed to keep their titles."
     
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    I don't think that will happen...I do agree that it should be done but, what say do I have? If I was in charge of that, I would have suspended Billichick, taken more than just their first round draft pick.
     
  25. Chuck F.

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    Once again...millionaire athletes and millionaire owners can't cut the bs and just get a deal done......what a slap in the face to all of us.:tdown::no:
     
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    No **** thanks for wasting all of our time Senator. Fire his fuggin rhino *** as well.

    I wonder how much this **** cost us taxpayers? Just like the whole Clemens bullshit today.
     
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    It's a conspiracy against San Diego..........:icon_tease:
     

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