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NFL's top 99 player rankings for '09

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Ranking the NFL's Top 99 players for 2009 is no easy task.

    To tackle the mission, I opted not to go all Bill James/Baseball Prospectus style in my methodology. Yes, to the dismay of some, there are no mathematic formulas or sabermetrics involved in what's below. And my apologies to the fine men at Football Outsiders, but I left the abacus at home for this one.

    For the fantasy football crowd, you might not be too thrilled either. Sometimes it's not all about statistics. And in ranking the NFL's Top 99, many times it wasn't.

    In truth, in compiling the following list, I asked myself three questions. Consider these inquiries the science behind the madness:

    1. Which player would I rather have on my team?
    2. Which player would make the most impact on my team?
    3. Which player will be the best in 2009, specifically?

    Let those three questions guide you as you digest what's below.

    And if you're a fan of Aaron Rodgers, Darrelle Revis, Nate Clements, Willis McGahee, LeRoy Hill, Walter Jones, Ronnie Brown, Jason Brown, Chad Pennington, Matt Hasselbeck, Lee Evans, Antoine Winfield, Torry Holt, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday, Shaun Rogers, Kellen Winslow, Jr, Tommie Harris, Jake Delhomme, Kirk Morrison, Trent Cole, John Carlson, Antonio Pierce, Dwayne Bowe, Frank Gore, Jay Ratliff, Ronde Barber, Mike Brown, Greg Jennings, Nick Collins and Braylon Edwards — know that your guys were right on the cusp.

    They just weren't quite Top 99 worthy, not this year. And now, the list ...

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9665338/NFL's-top-99-player-rankings-for-'09
     
  2. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    53. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: Gates wasn't his best in '08, but he was still among the top tight ends in the NFL. When fully healthy, there's no one better at the position. He's still one of the best over-the-middle and red zone targets in the league.
     
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    42. Shaun Phillips, LB, San Diego Chargers: Shawne Merriman gets all the fanfare and publicity, but serious followers of the NFL point to Phillips as the more talented linebacker. Both are Top-50 talents.
     
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    22. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: A little high for Tomlinson based on his down '08 campaign? A little low based on a career more decorated than any back since Marshall Faulk? That's the beauty of this list. I expect big things out of Tomlinson in '09. He's still got some juice in those legs. I may be in the minority on that one.
     
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    19. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Merriman missed much of last season with an injury and the Chargers' D was noticeably worse without him. Aside from his tremendous ability and ferocious pursuit of the quarterback, Merriman provides serious bite to the reigning AFC West champions.
     
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    16. Philip Rivers, QB, San Diego Chargers: Phil Rivers? In the Top 20?! You bet. Rivers had a breakout year in '09, tossing the San Diego offense on his back and winning the final four games of the season and a playoff contest vs. the Colts. The head-to-head postseason records of Rivers and No. 1 on our list? Philip Rivers 2, Peyton Manning 0. Not too shabby.
     
  7. Concudan

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    Needless to say #1 and #2 were Manning and Brady respectively.

    Both bigger than the team swollen melon boys IMO...
     
  8. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    I cannot believe Elisha continues to be overrated. #17? He's a passenger on the Giants train, not the conductor. He looked lost without Plexico Burress, and I expect him to continue his mediocrity this season.
     
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  9. Enormo

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    Should have an asterisk...

     
  10. Concudan

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    Really? Been watching long? Phillips is a good LB and even better field general. Watch the replay of the Chargers v. Colts when Merriman was suspended.

    Then tell me where your asterisks should be...
     
  11. Buck Melanoma

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    Just another exercise in Brady/Manning sack licking & nut swinging. PR has beaten them both, especially Manning.

    NE misses the playoffs again this year. Brady quits to pursue a runway career alongside his wife. :lol:
     
  12. HollywoodLeo

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    So, any "serious" follower of the NFL points to Phillips as the more talented linebacker, but Merriman is ranked 23 spots ahead of him? :icon_huh:
     
  13. bigmike.x.09

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    He ALWAYS looks lost.

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    See the resemblance?
     
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    HEY!!!

    DON'T INSULT EEYORE LIKE THAT!!!!



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  15. Retired Catholic

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    This is my pick as well. I'd have VJ in there some place.
     
  16. BeerGuy

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    :hilarious:





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    There's a reason why no one's tongue waggin' PR's sack.

    Career Highlights:

    ACC Athlete of the Year 2004

    MVP Tangerine Bowl

    MVP Gator Bowl

    MVP Senior Bowl

    Chargers team record: 34 touchdown passes in 2008


    :icon_huh:


    Tom Brady Career Highlights:

    4 Superbowl appearances

    3 Superbowl wins

    2 Superbowl MVP's

    2007 NFL MVP

    Sports Illustrated "Sportsman of the Year" 2005

    Associated Press "Male Athlete of the Year" in 2007

    Highest winning percentage ever for a QB in his first 100 games

    NFL "Career Best" stats:

    Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007)

    Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007)

    Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007)

    Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record

    Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. KC, 2002)

    Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)

    Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)

    Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

    Career statistics of interest:

    87–24 (regular season), 101–27 (career) as a starter

    19.05 passing attempts per touchdown (career)

    43.35 passing attempts per interception (career)

    7–0 (career) in overtime games

    27–5 (career) vs NFC teams

    84–1 (regular season) when the Patriots have a lead at any time in the fourth quarter

    28 game-winning drives after a Patriots' fourth-quarter tie or deficit

    Post Season stats:

    NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (broke record of Green Bay's Bart Starr).

    Most consecutive post season wins (college and professional combined): 12

    Most completions in a Super Bowl (32 in Super Bowl XXXVIII)

    Most career Super Bowl completions (100 in four games)

    Highest completion percentage in a single game, minimum 20 attempts (26 of 28, 92.9%, against Jacksonville in 2007 AFC Divisional round)


    I left out any mention of the Super Model wife because the football evidence was damaging enough to PR.:yes:



    Let's say your right, for the hell of it. Brady is still a first ballot H.O.F. lock. What if PR walked away this year? He'd be the subject of one of those "Where are they now?" pieces that Bryant Gumbel does about 5 years down the road.



    Hell, even Brady's GPA in college was higher than PR's.

    :yes:
     
  17. TheBeast

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    I'm not getting this game. I could just update my madden 09 online.

    Rivers being lower than last year is blasphemy. :tdown:

    My GF said I can only spend 60 bucks on games every 6 months and considering that PS3 games cost that much....

    I will be getting Modern Warfare 2 instead... :icon_toast:
     
  18. TheBeast

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    You spent too much time writing that..

    :icon_eek:
     
  19. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    The resemblance is uncanny! Eeyore at QB for the Giants!
     
  20. BeerGuy

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    I'm way too lazy.....wikipedia + cut & paste are my very good friends.......:icon_toast:

    Just so everyone knows, I'm excited about Brady coming back, but I don't need to see him on my television unless he's throwing passes during an actual, LIVE game.

    He's not a distant relative, I don't drink mojitos with the guy on a Friday night, I am not emotionally invested in his day to day life.......he's a chess piece. He needs to pay attention to the job at hand and get things done. As soon as the clock runs out he can disappear to his private life and I won't begrudge him anything.

    He's built up a mountain of good will here in New England because he performs when it counts. As long as he does his job that good will won't erode.
     
  21. Buck Melanoma

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    Take your Pats loving, Brady sack-licking *** to the Pats boards, phucwad. This is Charger land, so go blow Brady somewhere else. He's persona non-phucking grata here, got it? :icon_twisted:
     
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    :yes: :yes: :yes:


    "Truth is generally the best vindication against slander." - Abraham Lincoln


    Thanks for the inspiration...I think I'll put that quote in my signature, Buck.
     
  23. Savage Lizard

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    BG, I have no particular beef with Brady, but you have to understand it from a non-Pats fans perspective. We are all sick to death of yet the latest list created by somebody so they can put Brady and Manning in spots 1 & 2. It just gets old. We all get it, Brady and Manning are pretty good QBs. If it helps, think back a decade ago when the Pats weren't the darlings of the national media and someone else was, then maybe you can relate.
     
  24. HollywoodLeo

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    Brady and Peyton Manning deserve to be at the top of every list.

    I only get annoyed when people put Eli and Roethlisberger ahead of Rivers just because their teams won Super Bowls.

    There's no way Roethlisberger should be #3 on this list just because he plays for the team with arguably the best defense in the NFL year in and year out.
     
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    How about this... He's done nothing but win!!! Two Super Bowl victories in four seasons as stater is pretty damn impressive!!!
     
  26. BeerGuy

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    I'm tracking with you, I really am. He's my quarterback and even I get sick of hearing about him.

    I know all too well about the lean years. I explain them to my kids every year at the start of any/every sports season. My kids are spoiled in more ways than one, so I do my best to manage their expectations and keep them grounded.
     
  27. bigmike.x.09

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    where the hell would ben be without that defense of his?
     
  28. HollywoodLeo

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    Are we talking about Roethlisberger or the Pittsburgh Steelers here?
     

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