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Nonsense and Non Sequiturs

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Blue Bolt, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Blitzy

    Blitzy Rainbow Bolt

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    1- Too fast, too quick, runs hard. Check. In this league, he needs to remain healthy and hold onto the ball. He has failed where men are separated from boys, so far. Let's shore up the OL and give him the holes to hit to demonstrate his talents, but ball protection and pass protection as his skill set and repertoire indicate toward worrying weaknesses.

    2- Nothing anti-Occam about my previous post. How was I bending the data? You brought up 57-42 and I simply pointed out to his losing record as a HC over the 2010, 2011 and the 2012 seasons. You go ahead and stroke Norf's record for all I care! There are 3 more games left, so at best he'll leave the Chargers with a record of 60-42 and at worst, with a record of 57-45. Since both the best and worst case scenarios are still in his (and by extension to your) favor as far as W-L is concerned, in the immortal words of the great Charlie Sheen, W I N N I N G! :rolleyes:
     
  2. FCBolt

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    Jiu jitsu means 'gentle way' in Japanese. So are you insulting Lance, complimenting him, or trying to pick him up?

    Or all three?
     
  3. Lance19

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    Running back injuries are the norm in this league...ask the rest of the division.
    (Remember all the McFadden hype? Drafted much higher, averaging 200 yards a season less than RM, due to injuries)
    Fumbling early in one's career is also common...ask LT & AP
    The important thing is that (cross fingers) we're seeing improvement in both areas.

    I don't know what you think you're winning. First you said it was simple. Then it became about all kinds
    of things--and the kitchen sink--to explain why Norv's record isn't as good as it looks.
    So, would you fire all Charger coaches with a lesser record than Norv's?
     
  4. FCBolt

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    Ah, so you're hitting on him.
     
  5. Lance19

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    You know, I've never posted my pic here...yet somehow they know... (about the cuteness) :rolleyes:
     
  6. FCBolt

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    It's the Bambi Factor.
     
  7. Blitzy

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    I'm not winning! I'm losing. My team is a LOSER. Norf is the WINNING! He is the one with the 57-42 record. Remember?
     
  8. Blitzy

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    I'm Brazilian Jiu Jitsuing Lance. Yer cretin! :D
     
  9. FCBolt

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    Ah, all groundwork. ;)
     
  10. FCBolt

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    Thought for sure that McCartney would work Hey Jude into that set.
    Kind of strange to end with a song that had nothing to do with New Jersey..
     
  11. Blitzy

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    I don't give a toss about McFadden. On CMB, I used to defend Rygina by (wrongly) paralleling him with LT's fumbling issues and I hope I do not burn in Hell for disrespecting and comparing Rygina to anything LT! # 24 could not carry # 21's jockstrap AFAIAC, so my profuse apologies to LT for my blasphemy. If LT fumbled in the first couple of years, he also had multiple 100 yards games plus many more TD's to boot. This is something which you Rygina apologists ought never bring into the LT vs Rygina argument.
     
  12. Lance19

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    Umm...okay...listen, I haven't had a drop of alcohol (or any drug, for that matter)
    in over a week, so I don't think I'm in a good position to follow your unique reasoning.
    As long as you declare that Norv is to blame for the players blowing leads
    this season, well, who needs "lucid" support of that assertion?
    There's really no reason for me to get all "facty," is there? Blow those clouds, my friend. Blow on...
     
  13. Blitzy

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    Let's just keep it mysterious. Why disappoint us by showing reality? Mystery lubricates the limbic system :roflmao:
     
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  15. Blitzy

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    You like that? ;)
     
  16. Blitzy

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    Ever heard of sheet rolling downhill? There is the lucidness you were looking for ;)
     
  17. FCBolt

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    Didn't like the McCartney set, eh?
     
  18. Lance19

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    I'm not an "apologist." I'm a hardcore fan of many decades who is assessing RM
    against the hundreds of other young running backs I've seen. I have no stock in him.
    Hell, I wanted the Chargers to draft Dwyer! But to dismiss the McFadden comparison makes no sense:
    LT was a special talent who enjoyed freakishly good health--that is not the NFL norm at all...
    not even close. The reality is that running backs lose games to injury all the time in this league:
    McFadden sat for 9 straight games last season, Jamaal Charles missed 14, etc. These are Mathews' peers...
    not LT or some mythical back who never gets injured. Yes, he's been hurt more than any Charger fan
    wants...but less than a lot of other guys out there.
     
  19. Lance19

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    I'll thank you to keep your lubrication to yourself...
     
  20. Blitzy

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    You brought LT into it and got bitten :D
     
  21. Lance19

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    Ummm...okay...I promise that if Pizza Hut accidentally replaces my regular mushrooms
    with the psilocybin :rolleyes: variety, I will go back and re-read your posts with the requisite
    "insight." And "we will all be one." (until that happens, though, I'll probably just think you're nuts)
     
  22. Blitzy

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    Course I will! My lube is some expensive sheet, I'll let you know ;)
     
  23. FCBolt

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    The problem with the Mathews pick is that he was injured a lot in college. AJ rolled the dice on that one. So far he has in return one good season out of three, paid for with a 2nd round draft pick. Right now it looks like a bad gamble.

    Maybe Mathews reels off some good seasons. We all hope so. But at this point any objective analysis would suggest the odds are against it (based upon his injury history in college and the pros).
     
  24. Blitzy

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    Lance, ever heard of quitting a losing argument? Lance, the HC is sheet of a HC and this reverberates and transcends down the hierarchy. You knew that from the beginning, so stop wasting my time! I'm gonna go watch the Daily Show now :)
     
  25. Lance19

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    I have NO IDEA what RM's health future holds, and I wouldn't wager on it. Any more than I know how
    Peterson's ACL or Charles' knee will hold up. For my money, as a #12, RM has a lot less pressure
    on him than a #4 like McFadden, who he has outperformed so far. And as for that 2nd, well,
    what was the true cost of that? Clipboard Jesus gets a view of the Puget Sound from the Space Needle
    and comes home? I get your point...I just feel like the "Chargers traded way up to get him" card
    has been overplayed. I just see way too much talent there to be anywhere close to writing that kid off.
     
  26. Lance19

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    Physician, heal thyself!! Before advising others re. "quitting a losing argument" you could
    just acknowledge that I asked for an intelligent argument supporting the attacks on a Charger coach,
    and after endless crazy e-mails, the best you could offer was
    "Uh...uh...heh-heh...uh...me say Norv sheety."
    You could've just told me up front that you had nothin' and saved us both some time. :laugh:
     
  27. Blitzy

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    Wait till I bring on the full charm blast and my seductive powers to the table the next time :roflmao:
     
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    They don't ????????

    well shite, that explains the myth of the legendary LT Turf Monster then ........

    I knew it was nothing more than a hoax ......... No flies on this little black duck. ;)
     
  29. Blitzy

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    Lance, brace yourself for Hurricane Jack! He is now rumbling through a few pages back, but he'll be catching up soon to bring some levity and logic into our mini spat :D
     
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    In real terms, they used a 2nd round pick to get him. One they could have had if they'd stayed put. No reason to cite 'traded way up' or whether anything's been overplayed. It's simply a lost 2nd round pick. Whether it was worth it or not remains to be seen. But it isn't looking good.

    In terms of RMs future health, one can make an informed opinion upon the past. It may hold true, it may not. Past results may be no guarantee, but they are the best predictor, in fact we all use past results to guide us through our lives each day. It's more likely that move up proves a lost gamble. But like I said before, we can all hope the guy somehow starts having healthy seasons and finding holes in the OL.
     

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