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Nonsense and Non Sequiturs

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Blue Bolt, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Blue Bolt

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    I wouldn't go that far...... we don't know what this team is just yet. Mathews' ball security issues are well known. Rivers' are dependent on the line play for the most part. Better protection + shorter passes = fewer turnovers.

    And yes, Harris looked better than Starks. ;)
     
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    For how long have I said this guy couldn't play ? .....one word described his play : SOFT.

    Glad to see the back of him, to bad it took as long as it did though, very typical of the past regime, so we shouldn't be surprised.
     
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    That's Carson, not Cason. ;)
     
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    Ask PUMPY, he's probably "doing HIS Fathead" replica of the Man right this second !!!
     
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    "My arse" !!!!

    I believe I recall Gooey saying those exact words when he seen you laying on the bed !!! :D
     
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    I still prefer the "Sir" .......

    Never gets old seeing Dave squirm a little. ;)
     
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    Ooops, my bad, then again, what's an "r" between friends ??? ;)

    And anyway, both suck the Big One.
     
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    Oh great .....

    Lovely to see Andre Johnson in mid-season form already..... :(
     
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    A couple of light years better than Starks to these eyes.
     
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    Was a good play by Gatesy for sure ....... Like Green also.

    Then again, if Gatesy can manage to stick around for another "30 to Life", there may well be a guy available. :laugh:

    Mind you, don't think he'll be much of a "Tight end" anymore ....
     
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    "Extrapolate" !!!!!!!

    Thank God Gooey isn't around to break that one down .......... Poor l'il farger would be totally mind-bottled by that one.
     
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    Sorry, no can do. I work for a living and know who my father is.
     
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    Five takeaways from the Chargers' victory over the Cardinals
    By Kyle Posey@The_KP_Show on Aug 25 2013, 3:26p


    The San Diego Chargers continued to make strides Saturday night as a team that's looking to improve on a 7-9 record from a year ago. The offense moved the ball, the defense got off the field, and special teams came up with 3 huge plays in the first half as the Chargers controlled the game from start to finish in a 24-7 victory over the Arizona Cardinals.

    With this being the last time we'll see the starters until Week 1 against the Texans, I'll go over the 5 biggest takeaways on each side of the ball, both good and bad. Let's start out with the offense.

    Offense
    Balance & Pace
    The first half was evenly called, with 18 pass plays and 18 rushing attempts. That balance did wonders for the offense, keeping Arizona's defense honest so they couldn't pin their ears back and rush the passer. Philip Rivers wasn't sacked during the first half, which is a milestone compared to the way he's been under duress the first 2 preseason games.

    The same offensive balance also helped the running game look better than it has in quite some time now. The Chargers rushed for 74 yards in the first half, just over 4 yards per carry. They actually ran for more than they passed for (71 yards) in the first half. It also helped them get into manageable situations on third down. The offense was 4-6 on 3rd downs in the first half.

    The up-tempo pace was a new wrinkle this game, and Rivers looked much more comfortable in said pace. It'll be interesting to see how much this is actually a part of the offense, as both touchdown drives (92 & 80 yards) came from the up-tempo pace. What it does for Rivers is it gets him to the line of scrimmage with over 20 seconds on the play clock, allowing him to make the correct pre-snap reads needed to be effective in this offense. At times, Rivers still is locked into one receiver the entire play and missed open receivers, but for me, he took a big step in this game (even if his numbers don't indicate he did.)

    Ryan Mathews
    There are still plays where Ryan Mathews leaves yards on the field. However, what I saw against the Cardinals is what the Chargers had envisioned him doing when they traded up to take him in the 1st round. I'm not sure Mathews ever went down on first contact. He put his foot in the ground and ran hard. Often running through people, making people miss, Ryan looked like a totally new back. I know he's run for more yards in games before, but this game was the best I've seen Mathews ever

    Many will point out the fumble Mathews had, but there's not much he could do there. The defender put his helmet on the ball. That fumble happens to any other back in the league.

    It'll be interesting to see how many carries he gets on a per game basis. He had 14 in the 1st half on Saturday, whereas last year he only had 20+ carries three times all year. Mathews being the power type back that he is, he's proven that the more carries he gets the better he is. Once Mathews is able to crack the twenty carry mark consistently, I think that's where we'll see him start to break these longer runs.

    Offensive line still working out the kinks
    There are still issues along the offensive line, and it's obvious. What isn't so obvious is who is making the mistakes.

    This is the part where you call me crazy and any other form of stupid, but from what I see, D.J. Fluker is the best lineman on the team. Seeing him improve on a weekly basis has been fun to watch. Guess who made that 1st touchdown run possible? On that play Fluker drove the defensive end all the way down to the center. There were actually a handful of plays where he drove his man 3-4 yards down the line or off the ball. He's not lunging anymore in his pass protection, not one time did he get beat, and he also picks up "stunts" and recognizes them quickly, an all around impressive performance.

    The problem is on the inside. I'd be more worried about the combination of Jeromey Clary and Nick Hardwick than I'd be worried about King Dunlap and D.J. Fluker. I know he's new to the position, but Clary doesn't seem to understand when to pass his man off, or recognize when the defensive line stunts. Because of this, Rivers is still getting hit, and one of those hits led to an interception. There was also a play on the first touchdown drive, when Rivers had to get rid of it quick and found Antonio Gates, where Clary was pulling and didn't block the right guy. He's still learning, but if I had to pick one person, he'd be the one I'm most worried about on the offense.

    Defense
    Defensively, the Chargers continued to be solid, as they had been the first two games. Derek Cox showed off his tackling skills on the second play of the game, and the safeties not named Eric Weddle are still a work in progress, but there's a lot to like from this unit.

    3rd Down Defense
    The first team defense limited the Cardinals to 2-7, which is a huge stepping stone as the season gets closer. Last year they ranked 29th in the NFL giving up 40% of conversions, a big reason why defense wasn't as good as some seem to think it was.

    Whether it was Dwight Freeney creating constant pressure or the new cornerbacks making plays on the ball, the defense did a great job of getting off the field and getting the ball back to the offense on Saturday night. At this point, is anyone still concerned that there will be a drop off at corner? Cox made a great play on 3rd down against Larry Fitzgerald and Shareece Wright ran stride for stride with Patrick Peterson 40 yards down the field.

    Up the Middle
    I'm not talking about Cam Thomas here. He was solid and he played like the Chargers need him to play. Bront Bird and the safeties however were out of position too many times if this defense wants to be a top 10 defense.

    I try to see what the team sees in Bird, I really do. When you play "Mike" you need to be aggressive, you need to be a thumper, you have to want to hit. That's not Bird's game. Bird looks very comfortable dropping into coverage, and reading the quarterback. When it comes to running plays, he wants no part of contact. If Manti Te'o is out for an extended period of time, this might be a major issue for the defense, especially starting the season out with three run-heavy teams. Bird just doesn't read and react on run plays like a middle linebacker on any level should. He waits instead of initiating contact, and it usually leaves him out of position. This is a domino effect, hurting Donald Butler's production.

    Another player in a new position, Marcus Gilchrist moving to safety. Gilchrist was slow reacting Saturday night, and he's lucky the Cardinals didn't take advantage. Gilchrist, playing the deep safety role for much of the night, was turned around on one deep pass play, and he also got caught jumping the wrong route in the end zone. Luckily, the tight end dropped it. He also didn't aggressively fill the running holes like I had hoped he would. Gilchrist is going to have to trust what he sees and play with more aggression going forward.

    The hoopla for Jahleel Addae is fascinating, but is it warranted? I love that McCoy stuck him in with the first team to see if he's ready to play, but I didn't see it. What I did see is 3rd & 2, he's in a position to make the tackle and get the defense off the field, and he misses the tackle. He needed to "find work" instead of just dropping into his zones.

    Other Takeaways
    Le'Ron McClain played 5 snaps in the first half, and 3 of those came on the goal line. If that's his usage, how does he warrant a spot? It would cost $1.6 million to cut him, and roughly $3 million to keep him. Being a subpar blocker and having minimal impact in this offense, I'm not sure what the reason is for him making the team.

    How to get Ladarius Green on the field? I know it hasn't been against starters, but Green has shined this preseason, almost to a point where you could vouch for putting him in ahead of newcomer John Phillips, who hasn't been the great blocker that many of us has expected him to be. When you lack depth as an offense, and you have a guy like Green who can stretch the field down the middle, you find ways to get him touches. Does he warrant more playing time?

    There was a lot to like in this final tuneup for the Chargers. Rivers is getting better, Mathews looks primed for a career year and the offense as a whole proved they can move the ball consistently.

    On the other side of the ball, we learned that Freeney is motivated, and looks like he'll lead the team in sacks. He still has it. Jarrett Johnson isn't a slouch rushing the passer, either. The corners are new, but can cover better than last year's duo. We also learned that there are concerns up the middle on defense.

    Was Saturday night's performance enough for you to feel confident heading into the season? Or is this still a bottom 5 team in the NFL like most people outside of San Diego feel?
     
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    The Chargers are down to 80 players.

    They have until Tuesday at 1 p.m. to clear five more roster spots.

    San Diego announced 10 players it cut Sunday. All NFL rosters must eventually be trimmed to 53 before 3 p.m. PT this Saturday.

    • RB Edwin Baker

    • C Colin Baxter

    • CB Greg Brown

    • S Tony Burnett

    • WR Deon Butler

    • G Brandyn Dombrowski

    • QB Nathan Enderle

    • P Richard Kent

    • DL Jamarkus McFarland

    • TE Dallas Walker

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    Not much I can see differently with the Author BLEW.

    Not a fan of this Addae kid, again he missed makeable tackles and seems more interested in the theatrics side of things than the game itself .

    The Clary summary is like Groundhog Day and will remain so ................. who knows why ? ..............and couldn't agree more with his accessment of Hardwick & Clary being the biggest concern on the OLine.

    McLain ? ..............Yep, I have no idea what his role is on this team for the $'s he is paid, another headscratcher.

    Ol' Brontosauras Burger ......... just doesn't do much of anything to be totally frank (or beans if you prefer), hoping Teo is ready to go by Week 1.
     
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    Poor DUMBO ....

    Been quite the "fall from grace", hasn't it .............. I was just thinking of him yesterday and wasn't even sure if he was still on the roster, I've heard or seen so little of his name of late.

    Kid just didn't make the leap unfortunately...........peaked early and looked a chance, but wasn't to be.

    Feel bad for Baker, kid runs hard and is all heart, just too small at this level I do believe and doesn't have any other tricks in his bag to call upon.

    Glad to see the likes of Baxter gone ................been given EVERY chance and like Dumbo, hasn't improved enough, no surprise whatsoever he's been given the pink slip.
     
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    I'll be in town from Oct 12-Nov 12 .................. get your arse organised. ;)
     
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    8:00 here...... knock off a zero, and you have the outside temperature. :(
     
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    I see the poor Deev is sweating her butt off in that sauna she lives in ........ no fun whatsoever without "air"
     
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    Gatsey with the original tackle and the follow up that knocked the ball skywards ........

    Haven't seen that to often in his career, good stuff.
     
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    I can't believe someone has the audacity to start up a thread mentioning and questioning the treatment that fargin' Witch Doctor recieved from fans !!!!

    WTF !!!! .....get a clue for Christ sake's, just seeing his name mentioned has my blood boiling :mad:

    What would it take to open eye's I wonder ?? .............maybe if he had of killed a Charger player because of his incompetence if that may have done the trick ?

    Guess just fargin' the "nobodies" of the world up, isn't enough to go by ? :(
     
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    Such stupidity is best ignored. ;)
     
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    Oh my :confused:.................... have just seen Lady Ga Ga performing on "Who knows what event anymore" .......

    Can someone check on PUMPKIN to make sure he's still breathing, I have a feeling he may have been glued to a TV somewhere and has succumb to some kind of debilitating cramp.
     
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    ...and that is why you'll notice I mentioned it in here rather than the thread.

    Just when I thought I'd never have to think or breathe that turds name again, some tosser comes up with that :poop:
     
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    OK, the more I see of these "Music Award shows", the more it becomes obvious ....

    The message has never been more lucid, two words tell it all.

    Miley Cyrus !! :confused: ..... kids, stay away from drugs, very very bad.
     
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    Speaking of clowns, remember how many Chargers fans were upset when we didn't hire this bozo?.......

    "It was my decision,” a defensive Ryan said of the questionable call, during a contentious postgame session with reporters.

    “You're talking about competing all week. That was my decision all the way."

    Asked why he would put his potential starter at risk of an injury so late in a preseason contest, Ryan fired back, “Why compete, period? We're there to win. We had our starting offense out there because we are trying to win the game. Injuries are part of the game."

    But Ryan didn't have his whole starting offense out there — the second-string offensive line was guarding "The Sanchise."
     
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    Well BLEW, let me give a shout out to someone I've been pretty tough on for at least getting that call right .......

    The Deaner and Co.

    As bad as Norv and AJ ended up being, nothing could have compared to the debarcle this club would have become had Sexy Rexy got the job.

    Never in the history of any sport, anywhere in the World, has a big-mouthed blowhard, EVER been able to turn :poop: into Strawberries & Cream, NO matter how much they tell you they are capable of doing so.
    Ryan is the epitome of a bloke who makes up for geniune talent in the coaching field, by talking absolute crap and never backing it up with results.
    Anyways has excuses, hides his flaws by trying to manipulate anyone stupid enough to listen to his dribble and rhetoric and NEVER takes the blame ........................... in other words, a deadset LOSER.

    Thanks again Deaner, you at least got that call 100% correct. ;)
     
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    I wish I could. Money is tight. I'm in the process of moving out of the apartment and into a trailer until I get my land cleared and livable. It's not only eating up my cash, but also my vacation time. Hopefully this time next year things will be settled.
     
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    But his foot fetish would have made him pervy enough to fit right in in San Diego
     

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