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Nonsense and Non Sequiturs

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Blue Bolt, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. jackfrost

    jackfrost Well-Known Member

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    And thats fine BLEW, but I'd love to hear their reasoning behind those thoughts ................. what I find most disconcerting is that if they think a Clary is worthy of the money he earns, for the value he contributes, then I'd seriously have to question the football knowledge of our talent evaluators ................... which I have done for quite a number of years now.

    Now seeing as we have a new regime in power (supposedly), what is most worrisome to me, is that the final say is always had by a Spanos in regards to player personsel and if so, why even bother having a GM, recruiters and college scouts ?
     
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    FARGING BRILLIANT !!!


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    I can't believe Footsie Ryan let the Dirty Sanchez walk !!!!

    So, does he get his #6 tat "shaded" now or just go with a new rabid dog tat ????
     
  6. Sandolf

    Sandolf Blue Moon Rising

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    That's the kind of writing that's not going to appeal to anybody.
     
  7. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Which is an art in itself. ;)
     
  8. Lance19

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    For anyone wondering about the "God" that SDSU's Adam Muema is throwing his football possibilities away for,
    Tony Ortega at Rawstory.com did a great piece on this charlatan 8 days ago. Fascinating and a bit sad...

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/...o-may-have-ruined-a-young-mans-nfl-prospects/

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    p.s.: The screen capture pic is from a follow-up story Ortega did Monday...trying to interview a very uncooperative Muema
     
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  9. Charger Dave

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    Gee Jack, I guess you should ask the author of that article rather than anybody down at Chargers Park - he must have a hell of an "in" with them to know their most secret thoughts though - or maybe he is clairvoyant and works in that field when not performing his regular job?... Wow, he has 6 whole posts on Bolts From The Blue - that must really mean something. <spit>

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  10. DFWBoltFan

    DFWBoltFan Where am I?

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    Good guess! :)

    Yes, HP on the software side.
     
  11. Charger Dave

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    char·la·tan
    noun \ˈshär-lə-tən\
    : a person who falsely pretends to know or be something in order to deceive people

    (See my last post too, it applies). ;)
     
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    Fan sites with user/abusers posing as journalists are particularly dubious. Even mainstream journalism has spiraled down the toilet in the digital age.
     
  14. Blue Bolt

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    Print journalism is bad enough....... TV and the web is laughable for the most part.
     
  15. jackfrost

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    That's why we switched over to the Crisco cooking oil awhile back mate !!!!

    Add a little friction and not only does it get "that job" done, I can also grill a couple of toasted ham & cheese sandwiches on the old boy's arse cheeks simultaneously and have a quick bite when the munchies hit. :tup:
     
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    My reply wasn't so much directed at that author Dave, but moreso towards those in the FO who make the player personnel decisions, he merely raised the opposing views in that article BLEW posted.

    I think it does raise an interesting topic as to how players are assessed and paid according to their importance to the structure of the team and no one on the current squad is more polarizing than Clary.......... Based on his overall play and yes, what that play costs us in the salary cap.
     
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    Unfortunately Lancelot, Im far to old and cynical these days to show any remorse to those that show an inclination to worship false gods I'm afraid.

    I find these types great banter for a jovial moment, rather than what seems to be today's norm of pussyfooting around them and showing them concern.........God (or Lord Rayel for that matter) knows the line has been substantially blurred these days, as to what was once known as simple good natured ribbing and bullying.

    Hell, the bullying theme is thrown around these days almost as much as the racism word it seems ......... It's the younger generations "go to word" when things get tough it seems and then it's " all jokes stop now" because God knows we can't scar these poor helpless individuals for life ........ Pffffft, give me a break, toughen up you weak bastards and give as good as you get, who knows, you might just come out the other side a better person for it, plenty of generations before you somehow managed just fine.
     
  18. Sandolf

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    At risk of totally wasting some space, I'll put this to you from another angle Jack. People who post on football boards are generally very opinionated. I am no exception. We like to share opinions with the like minded. Very rarely does anyone change their views. There are those who will say that following Test Cricket is like watching paint dry. Some our our personal experience with it defies that view because of some of the complex situations that arise during the matches.

    In all of my days reading football boards, I have hardly ever found anybody who knows much if anything at all regarding the techniques of offensive linemen, never mind to have the ability to evaluate that aspect of the game. They just don't watch them closely enough, and when a telecast should focus in on one, it is usually because they've made a mistake. Good play goes largely unnoticed as most of the credit goes to the "skill" players. That is why this topic will always be polarizing.

    In their hopes of claiming what must be, the unwashed grab at the views of more of the totally unqualified. Repeating this over and over does not make that volume of crap more credible than the professional coaches who make their living breaking down these plays one by one for every single game.
     
  19. Lance19

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    "False gods" are one thing, Jack. People can legitimately disagree as to whether particular (or "all"...a popular choice) gods
    are false. But this moron isn't even trying: that this Raymond Howard-Lear clown is less of a candidate for messiah than
    the average heroin addict is what makes this so pitiful...in other words: lots of folks are following false gods,
    but Jesus, pick one that is less laughable than Lord RayEl.
    Running with a football may well be the only chance Muema has to be successful in this life...
    sucks to see him piss it away on such obvious nonsense.
     
  20. jackfrost

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    Indeed SandyBob, afterall, thats the purpose of Forums, isn't it................provide opinions and thoughts.

    And ofcourse we aren't at all privy to the inner sanctum of locker rooms and therefore make assumptions and form opinions based solely on what we see on gameday, but isn't that enough to form a view, whether we be involved directly of not with a club ? ............. I don't see how having access to a lockeroom makes one more informed on whether a player has performed his duties or not on that particular day, surely they have seen exactly what we fans have.

    If I see Clary's opponent consistently getting in our backfield harrassing our QB, then surely its a fair call to say he's a weak link, No ? ..............or the fact he consistently is without doubt our most penalised OLineman, surely that isn't merely a coincidence is it ?

    All opinions are based on one's personal accessment of how they see a game developing..............an OLinesman's job is to keep his opponent from disrupting a QB's as I see it, along with opening holes on running plays ofcourse ............not the easiest job in the world when your dealing with bigger, faster, stronger athletes on D these days and Clary's lack of foot speed always has been his weakest asset in this regard and I can't see that improving with age unfortuanately.
     
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    And thats why I have very little (OK, ZERO) sympathy for the guy Lancelot.

    If a person is so easily led by others to believe in such a luducris "being", whats that say about his own upbringing by Family and friends Lance ?

    Surely this kid has issues far greater than whether he can make it as a professional footballer and I totally undrstand one's frustration when seeing someone throw away a once in a lifetime opportunity that most of us would die to have been given, but if he is so weak-of-mind to believe in this Scam artist, then the chances are, he'd be hard pressed to have made it in the rough and tough world of the NFL.

    He's not the first and wont be the last to piss away a "Lord RayEl given gift" and quite frankly, I couldn't give a rats tossbag about these nutjobs, they are a dime-a-dozen these days it seems...................the sooner we send them all off on a rocket to the Stars, the better I say !!! ;)
     
  22. Lance19

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    Maybe he's not fully mentally there.
    Maybe that bat to the head four years ago has had permanent consequences.
    Football may be his only chance for financial security.

    I'm hardly Mother Teresa, but I worry about the guy.
     
  23. Sandolf

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    What I am saying Jack that there is a side to this you are not seeing. Sure... you are going to base your opinion on what you do see, but to see all you would have to subscribe to ALL 22 and break down every play... (as the coaches do).

    There are two logical conclusions here. Either:

    a) Two different Chargers regimes were equally incompetent.
    b) There is a side to Clary's performance the detractors are not recognizing.

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    How can you state that Clary is the most penalized offensive lineman? Is this only a guess? Can you actually back up that statement with stats? Most penalized in terms of yards or calls? How many points has he cost us... (if any at all)?
     
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    Troutman is the Chargers' most penalized offensive lineman, by yards per game and overall # of calls.

    I do agree with you, in principle, Sandolf, re. "regimes" seeing things that most fans don't
    (and I say this as an obsessive fan, who has seen far more Charger practices than has the average fan)
    but it does not follow, logically, that because the new regime still employs and pays Clary top dollar,
    that both regimes "were equally incompetent." Both regimes could be incompetent...there's no logical
    requirement that it be equal, or even close to equal (obviously this is all wind and sails,
    since the intent of your bifurcation was to promote option b), that detractors are missing something.

    [which, as I said, I agree is mostly true])

    http://www.nflpenalties.com/all-players.php
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    p.s. While we're on the subject of which Charger lineman was most penalized, it might be
    interesting to note that the most penalized team in the NFL last year--by far--was the Seattle Seahawks (so Bolts, get out there and commit lots of penalties!!)
     
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  25. Blue Bolt

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    I know I'm running the risk of being labeled a "Troutman hater", but I've yet to see anything about his play to get excited about. The coaches' poor decision to make him switch sides in the playoffs to cover Clary's spot was a disaster. I remember a number of fans here clamoring to cut Clary and start Troutman in his place. I've yet to see how that would've been a wise move...... then, or now.

    NOTE: that one penalty on Clary, the illegal down field on pass was later admitted to be a mistake by the officials. Notable, is that Troutman has twice as many offsides calls as Clary...... Jack's major bugaboo.
     
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    Thanks for the penalty stats Lance.

    As for my dialogue with Jack... there is mooning... and then there is mooning with bifurcation... (which also brings the corker to light). :D
     
  27. Lance19

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    :mad: :mad: F'ing Troutman hater!! :mad: :mad:


    (no wonder Fred ran off to the beach to play with his doggy pals)
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    If only he was still that active........ lazy old bastage.
     
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    I don't think there's any doubt about that is there Lance ?

    Bat to the head ? ........... unaware of that story, but any decent blow to the head has the ability to detract from one's mental capacity, no doubt.

    I'd say its 100% his only true chance at financial security.

    I can admire the fact you feel sympathy for the guy, why I have no idea, but thats your business and I can respect that, I personally would rather see peeps put their concern and thoughts towards others who are far more worthy of such sympathy through no fault of their own accord, rather than those that bring misery upon themselves through wayward beliefs in others.
     
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    Jack, you have 5 minutes to call before cocktail time. Snooze and you lose.
     

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