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NORVember Has Begun

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by robdog, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    Simple answer = YES

    I believe they can...not so sure they will!
     
  2. Ikeman83

    Ikeman83 Werter Pöbel

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    The NYG have a coach who adjusts his gameplans to meet the needs of his team, an offensive line that can pass-block well enough with the game on the line to allow their clutch (vomit) QB to make game-winning throws, and a front-four elite enough to mask their horrible LBs and suspect safeties, while providing enough pressure to improve the appearance of their CBs. They have 2 elite receivers, and several good ones waiting in the wings.

    We have an offensive line that lets our QB down in critical moments (4th Quarter, coming back from behind) every single time. We have corners who are so horrible, that no amount of pressure can make up for their inadequacies (see the plethora of 3rd and long completions on Thursday night.) We have not one single, solitary receiver on this team who could start anywhere other than Jacksonville. Maybe Brown could be a starting receiver elsewhere, but he's also likely injured through week 13. Lastly, our coach, for the first time in his entire tenure here, made an adjustment last night. I'm not really ready to suggest that changing the gameplan against the worst team in the league constitutes being able to do so successfully over a longer period, or within the context of a game for that matter.

    In short, we are not the 2011 NYG. We are not the 2010 Packers. Those were good teams with lots of injury issues that got healthy/hot at the right time and had a lot of things go their way (Kyle Williams ring a bell?). We are a mediocre team with lots of injury issues. Even when our players get healthy, they're still going to be mediocre players.

    It's not a "loser mentality" to actually look at what's on the roster and recognize it for what it is. Technically, the Chiefs are still in the hunt! Maybe they'll rip off 13 straight wins and hoist the Lombardi at the end of the season!
     
  3. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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    It is a LOSER mentality. You play to win or don't play at all.
     
  4. Joy Division

    Joy Division Slightly-known Member

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    Here ya go...enjoy!
    http://boards.giants.com/
    http://www.packerforum.com/forums/packer-fan-forum.20/
     
  5. Ikeman83

    Ikeman83 Werter Pöbel

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    You're the angry dad at little league games, aren't you?
     
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  6. Ikeman83

    Ikeman83 Werter Pöbel

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    I didn't bring up recent SB winners, that was CBBF. I'm curious as to whether he watched any of their games or not, however, because his inability to see the differences between those teams and ours is somewhat baffling.
     
  7. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Quite the contrary. My son plays soccer & swims. He has no loser mentality.
     
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  8. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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    But your loser mentality isn't a surprise to anyone.
     
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  9. Joy Division

    Joy Division Slightly-known Member

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    When a discussion deteriorates to name-calling, it's quite obvious who the winners
    and losers are...
     
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  10. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Well, it's all Ikeman has.
     
  11. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    I do hold onto this ideal model example of why you should NEVER ASK FOR YOUR TEAM TO GIVE UP WINS FOR BETTER DRAFT POSITION OR ANYTHING ELSE.

    I was feelin for NYG fans when they were BEGGING for a change from Coughlin, I was in agreement with them that he wouldnt take them anywhere. How wrong I was. Im deffinatly glad that this example exists, tho its bitter to think its the NYGonads.
     
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  12. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    I don't fault Ikeman and will never pull the "you're not a real fan" card, but there is a very fundamental difference between saying after the fact that we could have had a better draft position and griping mid-season that a win "cost us a draft position" when we're still in position to win.
     
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  13. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    If picking at the top of the draft guaranteed us that proverbial super model I'd agree with you.

    Sadly, that's not the case.

    Ryan Leaf says hi.
     
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  14. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    12-4 = playoffs

    I agree the chances of 12-4 are fairly slim based on how the team has performed thus far, but since I'm not in the business of fortune telling I prefer to wait until after the fact before I call something a fact.
     
  15. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Do I believe they're going to do it? Maybe not

    Is it impossible? Until the loss is in the books, no it is not impossible.

    Beliefs don't create results.
     
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  16. Holy_Bolt

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    Thanks Leo! Okay...Now that this is all cleared up, all the Bolts need to do is win out! Awesome! Playoff bound, we are right where we need to be! GO BOLTS!
     
  17. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    Hey Folks...lets all agree...hope is what we thrive on!
     
  18. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Did you really just respond to yourself? :roflmao:
     
  19. Holy_Bolt

    Holy_Bolt Well-Known Member

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    Ya it is late on a Friday night and I'm alone!:(

    Not counting the grand baby sleeping and all.
     
  20. Harley

    Harley BoltTalker

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    Look besides ATl we should have won them all. I hope we have been shocked with the horribles early enough to be there for the tourney. All the fire him or him is out of my control, I can control who I root for and it remains as it has always been and will be for the Chargers.
     
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  21. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Thats nothing, you remember B4L? That guy had entire conversations with himself. :roflmao:
     
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  22. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    FACT.
    :roflmao:
     
  23. SDRaiderH8er

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    if both teams win out the rest of the season, and the Chargers beat the Broncos in Denver, in common opponent games the Broncos would have beaten the Saints and the Browns, we lost to both advantage Broncos
     
  24. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Ugh, you're right, for some reason I thought common games came after conference record and was confident enough with it that I didn't bother looking it up, but just did and common games comes first.

    So, you're right about the division.

    But the Chargers still control their own destiny for the playoffs (without doing actual homework I'm 99.9999 percent confident 12-4 still gets us in) so my picture was still correct since I didn't specify division in it.
     
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  25. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    He's still on facebook, and he hasn't gotten any better. :laugh:
     
  26. ThunderHorse17

    ThunderHorse17 Lone Wolf

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    Can i play the fool and ask, what is Norvember? Winningist month?? Job security?? Or jus the buckle up and try not to physicaly assult fellow passengers, as they are riding the same train with the same destination goal??
     
  27. SDRaiderH8er

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    well then I guess because Leo said so, we all will just ignore the third tiebreaker

    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

    TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

    If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
    Two Clubs

    1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in common games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss
     
  28. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Read on, H8r, lol
     
  29. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    Save your time in further replies
     
  30. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    And my fault wasn't in ignoring the 3rd one. I knew it was there. I was just thinking it was #4 for some reason.
     

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