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Offical combine thread

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by charger1993, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    Lets kick this off:

    Bench press: 225 pounds
    Zack martin did 29
    Greg robinson did 32
    Gabe Jackson did 30
    Taylor Lewan did 29
    Cameron Fleming did 26
    Cyril richardson did 25
    Xavier Su'a-filo did 25
    Russell Bodine 42 reps
     
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  2. LT-Express

    LT-Express Bolttalk.com Janitor since 06' Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Wow. Russell Bodine 42 reps on the bench.
     
  3. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    yea thats crazy
     
  4. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Colt Lyerla no surprises....36 inch vert, 4.47 40 time, at 245.

    Such a shame he can't keep it together.
     
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    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    physical for sure, idk if hes important enough to list above? think i should add him?
     
  6. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Not that I've bee a huge proponent of his to begin with (I labeled him Jonathan Martin version 2.0 early in the NCAA season and I've never wavered on that stance), but... yowzah!

    Not sure I'd touch him till Day 3 at this point, personally. Was a pure RT, possible guard-conversion to begin with, and I'm not sure I'd want a guy with an arthritic knee have to pack on more bulk in order to play guard. Doesn't bode well for long-term viability.
     
  7. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Yeah...
     
  8. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    This is disappointing. I liked Lucas as a sneaky Joe D specialty, but foot injuries for big men are major concerns - can derail entire careers.
     
  9. The LBC

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    Worth bringing up...
     
  10. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    yeah, i said his name along long lon time ago
     
  11. The LBC

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    Also have to remember that the bench is more an exercise in endurance than functional strength. We all know Fluker is a massive, incredibly strong guy and he posted only 21 reps last year. Guys with longer arms tend to be the ones who struggle most in the drill.
     
  12. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    i know, i was just posting, guys names ive heard around here, just for fun
     
  13. Duffman57

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    Incredibly impressed with Verrett bumping up to 191 lbs and being a legit (or at least close to) 5'11". If he shows he's still athletic, then he's gonna shoot up draft boards.
     
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  14. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    how about Zach Martin, they said he can move to guard (a need) and is versatile enough to play LT (if dunlap goes down) ?
     
  15. matilack

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    I've fully jumped on the Verrett bandwagon in the last week, on tape he plays like a top 10 pick, regardless of his newfound height/weight and 40 time tomorrow he's my #2 CB in this class.

    Louis Nix impressed at 330 pounds to, I was ready to compare him to Terrance Cody but now I'm intrigued.
     
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  16. The LBC

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    Possible, but I'm not sure he reaches us TBH. He's not going to get draft as a guard - not saying he won't end up there eventually or that taking that approach is particularly smart (a guy should be played at his best position whenever possible), but like Pugh last year, someone will take him to play OT possibly inside the Top 20. Could see New Orleans as a possible landing spot, same with Miami (as they run a zone scheme), and Arizona (who are going to draft BPA regardless), too.

    My new man-crush (not really new as I've had it for a while, just wanted some numerical confirmation of what I was seeing on tape) is Joel Bitonio. Can play LT, but has a scary ceiling at any of the 3 interior line spots. Reminds me of Levitre a ton.
     
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  17. SuperCharger92

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    I think he's nastier than Levitre. He gets violent in the run game. He would be a solid round 2 pick, I believe he can play RG from Day 1.
     
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    How concerned should we be about long term viability, especially in the middle to late rounds? Given the short shelf life of most of these guys I feel like if you think you can get 3-4 solid years out of a guy that's not too bad. Seems there may be an inefficiency there. Obviously it might not make sense with a guy like Kouandijo who has some development ahead of him; no reason to invest that time to get him up to speed if by the time he's a finished product his knees fall apart.
     
  19. The LBC

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    I consider long-term the ability to at minimum play out his rookie contract and still be able to play were he qualified to receive a further contract.

    There are just certain injuries on heavier guys that cause significantly lower shelf-life and in general leave a player more susceptible to injury (can make it difficult to execute proper technique which is a leading cause for non-contact injury): Meniscus degradation, arthritis in the knees/ankles, certain foot injuries.

    The harsh reality is that even the best GM's will tend to miss on at least 20% of their draft picks (and those are the good ones!). The idea of just restocking guys with short shelf-lives can work, but you have to have top-notch effectiveness with your draft picks. It also tends to steer front offices into taking higher-floor versus higher-ceiling players - which is kind of how we ended up in the doldrums of mediocrity in whole position groups not too long ago... by committing our assets to guys with known shorter shelf-lives (whether as draft picks, free agents, or re-signings).
     
  20. charger1993

    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    i think if he falls and i mean falls , to like the 4th id gamble on him. But not a round sooner. I really wouldnt mind zach martin
     
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    Donte Moncrief continues to climb in my book after today. He's like Anquan Boldin, but with legitimate speed. To be honest I think he's a safer bet than a lot of the guys who are going to go ahead of hm.

    My top 5 WRs...
    1. Sammy Watkins
    2. Marquise Lee
    3. Davante Adams
    4. Allen Robinson
    5. Brandin Cooks (move up 1 spot ahead of Evans today)

    With Moncrief knocking on the door.
     
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    charger1993 bad motherfucker

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    watkins is my number one. heres my list
    1. Sammy Watkins
    2.Jordan Matthews
    3.Marquise Lee
    4.Allen Robinson
    5.Kelvin Benjamin
     
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    Clowney is to fast, 4.47 40 yard dash . jesus
     
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    I'm Bummed Dee Ford had to opt out, my vote is swaying between (Nix and Ford) if both are still @ at 25 of course
     
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    My top 10..

    1. Sammy Watkins
    2. Kelvin Benjamin
    3. Marquise Lee
    4. Mike Evans
    5. Odell Beckham Jr.
    6. Allen Robinson
    7. Brandin Cooks
    8. Donte Moncrief
    9. Davante Adams
    10. Jarvis Landry

    Sitting at 25, any one of the following to drop I'd be happy with,

    Dee Ford, Louis Nix, Jason Verrett, Darqueze Dennard, Odell Beckham Jr and Kelvin Benjamin.
     
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    Gotta be honest I cringe every time I think of drafting an LSU WR. And Benjamin is too poor of a route runner to make him a factor for at least a couple years.

    I'd like to see us wait on WR, 3rd round at earliest or through FA.
     
  27. SuperCharger92

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    Really?

    I do believe he needs to improve his route running, but I don't believe he is a 'poor' route runner by any means.

    But this year LSU WR's are special. ODB is a top 20 talent. He's very underrated to me.
    http://poseykyle5.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/beckham1011.gif
    That's against Verrett, the top corner in NCAA this past year.

    And Jarvis Landry reminds me of Hines Ward. There both good, real good. They had inconsistency with MEHttenberger at QB.
     
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    jordan matthews enough said #truth
     
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    Just because you see him run one good route doesn't mean he's even average at it on a consistent basis. Most of his game is just running down field and winning jump balls, which is fine, but not 1st round worthy in my book, especially in this deeeeep WR class. He'll probably develop nicely, but I see him as more of a project.

    I know I shouldn't generalize LSU WRs based on Buster, after all Bowe went in the same draft and he's had a pretty good career. BTW that clip of Beckham just reinforces my man crush on Verrett, even with the push off his recovery speed was great.
     

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