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Official 2013 coach hirings thread.

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan

    Carlsbad_Bolt_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Cardinals close to hiring Reid:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...very-close-to-hiring-andy-reid-as-head-coach/

     
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    Jets want Norv to take over as O.C.

    Sources tell ESPN New York that Rex Ryan wants former Chargers coach Norv Turner to replace Tony Sparano as his offensive coordinator.
    Sparano is hanging in limbo as the Jets search for a new general manager. His offense was ridiculously uncreative in 2012, ranking 28th in points and 30th in yards. Anonymous players told the Daily News that "they didn't think he was a capable play caller." Meanwhile, Ryan is vacationing in the Bahamas and not talking to the media. The Jets' offseason has started off rudderless.
     
  6. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    The ironic part about this is our offense was 20th in points, and 31st in yards in 2012.

    The only thing that separates Sparano and Sanchez from Norv and Rivers in 2012...was 3 points per game.
     
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  7. Dublin Bolt

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    I'm refusing to read anything about Andy Reid until he is hired wherever that is. It is clear his PR guys are unreal. His movements are all over the place. Latest is he will interview in SD at the w/e!, and we don't have a GM yet!.
     
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    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Reid had a very good interview with KC apparently but he's still coming out to AZ and SD. His PR machine is really running hard but if he's insisting on bringing Heckert with him as GM, he won't get more than a 15minute interview. The Chargers are not going to repeat the same mistake immediately with a strong man and a puppet, just in reverse from AJ/Norv
     
  9. matilack

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    I think they would make the mistake again, its just that type of organization.

    But Heckert has a very unimpressive resume, so lets hope The Wolf weeds him out after he sees the Browns were 14-36 in his tenure. And his draft history is not impressive, taking guys like Brodrick Bunkley, Winston Justice, Kevin Kolb, Trevor Laws, Brandon Graham etc...although 2010 and 2011 look like solid classes with the Browns.
     
  10. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Reid to KC is good for the division, but definitely turns the heat way up for the Chargers to make the right hire.

    He's going to turn things around there. He knows QBs. He has some pieces in place to make that offense go.

    Pioli is about to become a GM candidate again.
     
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    I think that has more to do with our depleted offensive line (which is on AJ) than it does on Norv's offense.

    I fault Norv for a lot of stuff, but our decline in offense isn't one of them. He's always been good with offense, it's why he's gotten so many chances as a HC despite always failing at it. He has 2 Super Bowl rings as an Offensive Coordinator.

    Does he make some questionable play-calls? Sure, but who doesn't?
     
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    Apparently many of the frequent posters in this forum. :D
     
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    top 3 coaching candidates appear to be Bruce Arians, Lovie Smith, and Bill O'Brien according to reports.
     
  14. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I love the smell of football in the morning.

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    The only reason Reid is taking on all of those interviews is so he can rack up frequent flier miles...
     
  15. ChargerMike

    ChargerMike BoltBruthaFromAnuthMutha

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    Latest report I heard is Reid has an interview with Bolts on Sunday.
    If you listen to that radio press interview of Wolf from Chargers.com, he says Reid was the one of the coaches from the past that he let "get away".
    Don't know if that means anything at all.
     
  16. Lance19

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    Okay, I'm guessing you did the math (to subtract out defensive and special teams scores)...
    because the overall numbers have the Chargers (in a decidedly off year, re, offense)
    ranked 7th in the conference with 350 points, and the Jets 14th out of 16, with just 281 points...
    for a per game difference of over 4.3 points per game. Which I would consider very significant.

    Even more relevant though, is Turner's reputation throughout the league--over decades--
    as one of the finest minds, re. offense, and a guy often cited as amongst the truly elite
    play callers in football...many say the very best. Obviously the numbers were down this season,
    but anyone contemplating hiring Norv is looking at his long term record. I doubt anyone's
    thinking that the guy who is known for offensive success, probably forgot most of what he knew
    in 2010 when his team led the league in total offense.
     
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  17. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    You're numbers include DEF/STs scores...of which the Chargers had 9 and the Jets had 5.
    As far as yardage they were 30, we were 31.

    I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you about this again, you're a complete idiot when it comes to Norv Turner. Offense intended. The man is fired, its over, cut your losses.
     
  18. Blue Bolt

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    Norv is a terrible fit for the Jets....... can't they see that?

    I could see him in Chicago, or Dallas, where neither QB has a noodle arm, and his big play offense could work, but the freakin' Jets and Sanchez??? :confused: :eek:
     
  19. Lance19

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    No, I've always been neutral about Norv (which the unhinged choose to interpret as "pro-Norv").
    I didn't want him hired, and I'm okay with him leaving IF he's replaced by someone with better results.

    The difference between you and me, Matty, is that I have no childish, pathological drive to bend
    stats in an attempt to make him look awful. But then, you've never argued terribly reasonably.
    (but you DO have the name-calling down) ;)
     
  20. Blue Bolt

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    It's always been his greatest weakness....... when he can't win an argument on the facts, he results to name-calling.

    One of these days, he may but some big boy pants on, but I wouldn't hold my breath. ;)
     
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    Demand should be higher for Lovie Smith
    Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2013, 11:47 PM EST
    Seven coaching vacancies currently exist. (That number could soon be six.) The guy whose termination created one of them — former Bears coach Lovie Smith — reportedly has drawn interest for only two of them.
    The demand should be higher.
    Smith led the Bears for nine years, taking them to a Super Bowl and, in recent years, making the most he could out of substandard personnel — especially on the offensive line. Though every team must at some point in a season find a way to overcome injuries, the Bears had plenty in 2011 and 2012, wiping out strong starts. (The absence of a quality backup quarterback in 2011 didn’t help.)
    And so, with all the focus on a coach whose Dream Team easily could have been 1-15 or 0-16 in 2012, Smith has been overlooked, for the most part. He’ll reportedly interview with the Bills, and the Chargers now also have interest.
    For the former, Smith could pump up an underperforming 4-3 defense. The challenge would be finding the right person to run the offense — and the right quarterback to throw the passes. As to the latter, Smith would have to decide whether to continue with the 3-4 defense that the roster has been built to support, or to install his 4-3 approach.
    Regardless, San Diego becomes intriguing because a stout defense to go with a franchise quarterback on offense could be the right formula for success.
    That’s why Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, who based on his history could indeed be looking discreetly for an upgrade at the coaching position, should be considering Smith.
    Given Jones’ new focus on “fundamentals,” Smith’s fundamentally sound defense coupled with an offensive coordinator who can get the most out of Tony Romo could be exactly what the Cowboys need.
    It could be exactly what Smith, a Texas native, needs, too.
     
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    Bill O'Brien off Chargers' wish list

    Earlier in the week, there was a report that the San Diego Chargers wanted to talk to Penn State coach Bill O’Brien. But it was no sure thing he’d make himself available.

    Thursday, he did, then he took himself off the market. CBS Sports reports that O’Brien will stay at Penn State after he interviewed with the Browns this week.

    Cross an intriguing name off the Chargers list.

    A lot of people I talked to thought O’Brien would be a perfect fit for the Chargers. He is an offensive mind and the Chargers need a spark offensively. Many people thought O’Brien -- a former New England offensive coordinator -- would be a great influence on Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, who has struggled the past couple seasons.

    With O’Brien out of the picture, the Chargers will still plug along. While they run their general-manager search, the coaching names that have been connected to San Diego thus far are Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, Andy Reid (who could become the Chiefs’ coach in the next 24 hours) and Lovie Smith.
     
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    Lovie Smith on Chargers' radar
    By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

    The San Diego Chargers may be looking at a big fish themselves.

    As Andy Reid reportedly closes in on being hired in Kansas City, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Chargers have been trying to get in on Reid and also want to interview former Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith.

    If talks fall through with the Chiefs -- it looks like he will end up in Kansas City, though -- Reid could come in to play for the Chargers. Regardless, it seems like the Chargers will look at Smith, who was fired by Chicago on Monday.

    I like Smith a lot. He is a fine coach. He is an experienced winner. He is a proven NFL coach.

    But I’m not sure he fits with the Chargers. The reason why Smith -- a defensive specialist -- was fired in Chicago after a 10-6 season is he couldn’t find a way to make it work offensively. Smith went through several offensive coordinators and he couldn’t find offensive consistency over the years.

    The Chargers’ biggest need area is on offense, as the biggest issue is a lack of talent. But if Smith couldn’t get anything going offensively in Chicago, how can he do it in San Diego?

    He would need to bring a big offensive mind with him to make this work. While there is a lot to like about Smith, the offensive question looms large.

    Meanwhile, I think the Chargers will miss special teams coach Rich Bisaccia. His contract was up and he is no longer with the team. He joined the Auburn staff Thursday, He is a good football man and he did a good job. Every other coach other than receivers coach Charlie Joiner is under contract. The future of the rest of the staff will be decided by the new brass.
     
  24. Lance19

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    Sure would be nice. No, I'm not holding my breath, either.
    In fact, I've become kind of amused by his habits:
    I can pretty much gauge by the ugliness of the name he calls me,
    the relative paucity of the "argument" he's trying to defend.
    Like a few others here, I've teased him about perhaps his tender age
    being a factor, but, I swear, I was never so mirthless at 16, 25 or 40.
     
  25. matilack

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    HAHAHA "can't win an argument on the facts." Thats cute considering I didn't know there was still an argument to be had anymore, it ended 3 days ago. All I did was read off a couple stats from NFL.com, really it was just piling on.

    You know sometimes people get called idiots when they are actually idiots, not just because there is an argument taking place.
     
  26. matilack

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    My tender age? :roflmao: If there is anyone here who shouldn't be teasing about age its someone who is old enough to recall prohibition.

    Lets get real here, there is nothing you can say that will ever win you an argument in favor of Norv's tenure as HC. After the 1st year (with Marty's team) it was a massive failure, in 4 of the next 5 seasons we were 4-7 at some point, and regardless of our deteriorating talent you could never rationally argue that we weren't still the most capable team in the division. I mean hell in the last 6 years Oakland, KC, and Denver have all picked 1st or 2nd overall, and KC and OAK have picked top 5 multiple times, and all 3 have had 3 or more QB changes....and yet all but 1 year it was a massive struggle to win our division.

    What is there to argue about? Nothing.
     
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    Since all available evidence suggests that you likely wouldn't know when Prohibition was,
    I'll share: The 18th & 21st Amendments bookended Prohibition, Matty...in 1920 & 1933, respectively.
    Long before my time. In fact, I think I'm a bit younger than quite a few posters here,
    --supposing they're telling the truth about their ages--but it's of very little import to me:
    my 16th birthday was the last one I celebrated...I wasn't interested in my age at 17 or now.
    This isn't the first time that you've guessed (wrong) that being called old would bother me.
    I've actually had precious little control (like most folks, I reckon, including you) over whether or not
    my age goes up by one each calendar year...so I'm not sure why it's something anyone would feel bad about.
    In your case, on the other hand, people guessed your age as being so low, because of your
    willingness to make strong, judgmental declarations, as if less experience and perspective
    (never mind logic) was somehow a plus...
    There are guys younger than you on here, that don't try to come off as know-it-alls...it's not really about age.
     
  28. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Holy **** that was a boring post.:sleep: I can't believe I read all of it, I'm gonna bet you probably have a political background because that was some expert rambling nonsense.

    You want to know how I profiled your age? Someone told me in the podcast chat room that you were 80...simple.
    That combined with your wishy washy "lets all believe the best in Norv because I remember the bad days" attitude.
    Combined with your writing style which to be honest looks like something that would come from a soldier writing a letter back home during a war...which I guess could be any time in the last 80 years, but when you combine it with the pompous phrases like "little import to me" and "precious little control" that tells me you probably belong to an older generation. I would bet you're also pretty religious too but I won't get into that sensitive topic.

    I have no problem with you Lance, its just that you're just kind of delusional sometimes, and astoundingly short sighted when it comes to Norv.
     
  29. Lance19

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    See, THAT's the proof that you're as smart as you think you are, Matty:

    Someone says something, and then Matty thinks he "knows" it.

    Yes, I remember joking about being 80, once...see, sometimes when grown-ups are making
    a joke, they'll use a number that's comically wrong. I was born in the '60s...do the math.
    Nice "profiling" there, bub. Is there anything you ever get right?!?

    p.s. Yes. I did tell the other chatter that "80" was an absurd exaggeration by decades. And now religion? Really? Any grounds for that? Any????
     
  30. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    And yet, you were the one who started this age topic weren't you? (link) And its not the first time, in fact its kind of a crutch for you.

    You can add hypocrite next to the idiot comment I made earlier.
     

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