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Overtime a hot topic on NFL agenda

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  1. Johnny Lightning

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    Chargers.com
    Jamaal LaFrance
    3-19-2010


    NFL team owners, head coaches and front office executives will meet in Orlando this week for the NFL’s annual meetings. Among the topics of discussion, a proposed change to the league’s overtime format.

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    Heads or tails?

    Aside from the collective bargaining talks, that might be the question of the week at the NFL’s annual meeting, which starts this weekend in Orlando, Florida.

    There is always plenty of football to discuss during the offseason, but overtime policies might be the hot topic on the long agenda. The NFL’s competition committee has discovered that winning the coin toss can be an increasingly unfair advantage, or the final nail in the coffin for the team forced to kickoff. As a result, the committee has proposed that the league adjust its overtime format in the postseason.

    Team owners will assess overtime rules, among a myriad of other topics beginning Sunday. As of now, no proposal has been made to change overtime rules for the regular season.

    In 1994, the overtime kickoff was pushed back from the 35-yard line to the 30. Since then, the team winning the coin toss has won 58.9% of overtime games compared to 46.8% from 1974-1993.

    The new rule suggests for both teams to get the ball at least once—unless a touchdown is scored (offensive or defensive) on the opening possession. If not, the team that lost the coin toss would then get a chance to win or tie the game. Should the game remain tied, sudden death is restored and the first team to score wins.

    There have been 445 overtime games in regular-season play since the rule was adopted in 1974, including 13 in the 2009 season. Of those 445 games, nearly 54% of the teams that won the toss also won the game.Whereas 42% of the teams that lost the toss won the game. The remaining three percent of the games ended in a tie.

    Several reasons, including improved field-goal accuracy, have prompted the competition committee to address the issue. Seventy percent of the 455 overtime games from 1974-09 have been decided by a field goal. Before 1994 when the ball was placed at the 30-yard line for an overtime kickoff, teams’ victories and losses were perfectly split at 46.8%, regardless of the outcome of the coin toss.

    There have been 27 overtime postseason games dating back to 1958. In 22 cases, both teams had at least one possession.

    The last time San Diego clinched a postseason overtime win was in 2008 against the Indianapolis Colts. The Chargers won the coin toss and elected to receive. Philip Rivers[​IMG] and company marched down the field, notching five first downs, and sealed a 23-17 victory with a 22-yard touchdown run by Darren Sproles[​IMG].

    The call was “heads,” but execution won the game.

    In order for the competition committee to implement its proposal, 24 of out of the 32 NFL teams must vote in favor of the change by the conclusion of the meetings on March 24.

    The outcome of this vote definitely won’t come down to a coin flip.
     
  2. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    I like this idea. Each team in a playoff game busted their asses off to get there and for it to come down to the kicker is a shame. This adds more intensity to the game and allows every team a chance. The play makers like the Peyton Manning's, Drew Brees's, and Adrian Petersons's should be the ones deciding the games, not the Kaedings or the Feeleys...
     
  3. LV Bolt Fan

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  4. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    My proposal: no FG and no punts in OT, you want to win, score a TD or a safety, and you can't punt on forth down, you gotta go for it.

    Imagine, 4th and 12 from your own 18 yard line and you gotta go for it :icon_eek:
     
  5. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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    I just like no FG
     
  6. Ride The Lightning

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    I'm with LVBF, leave it alone. Sudden death overtime is awesome.

    If it's SOOOO terrible to begin with, why just for the playoffs? What if it's week 17, and 1 or both teams are on the verge of the playoffs with a victory? Isn't that a "playoff"? Why isn't getting into the playoffs considered just as important as being in the playoffs?

    The ONLY change I'm willing to accept is the college fb ot rules. Otherwise GTFO my OT rules.
     
  7. wrbanwal

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    You guys wouldn't be complaining if we had a decent kicker


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  8. CoronaDoug

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    No FG's in the playoffs! Even in regulation! :lol:

    No seriously I think we should not have OT in the regular season. Just end it in a tie. Only use OT in the playoffs.
     
  9. DenverBolt67

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    I agree. I say eliminate the kickers all together. The team that wins the coin toss starts at their own 20, and must drive down the field for a TD. If they score, they win. If they don't get it, the other team get the ball at their own 20, and must go for a TD. Winner is the 1st team to score the TD.
     
  10. Johnny Lightning

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    If they would had it that way a few years back we would have won a couple superbowl's... :icon_evil:
     
  11. Trumpet_Man

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    I like the rules the way they are now.

    Sudden death means exactly that - sudden death.

    This is probably the last if not the only sport which has a true sudden death time period.
     
  12. Boltage Bimbo

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    This is a Peyton Manning thing. This rule change started when he cried about the Chargers beating them in the 2008 playoffs in overtime. Both the Manning boys are huge cry babies when they don't get their way.

    Sudden Death is just that Sudden Death. It's the luck of the toss and then if you lose that it's up to your defense to get the ball back for you. If they don't, then you weren't meant to get it back. Leave this rule alone, don't change a thing.
     
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    Jeff Fisher makes his case for modified overtime

    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 20, 2010 12:48 PM ET


    Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher is the co-chairman of the NFL's Competition Committee, and he says his support for the new "modified sudden death" overtime proposal is quite simple.

    "What we don't want to have happen in the playoffs is a kickoff return, and then a penalty and a field goal, and have the game be over," Fisher said in an interview at NFL.com.

    Fisher says the proposed change to overtime won't take away any of the excitement of sudden death because a team still has the opportunity to win with a touchdown on its first possession. But it also assures the team that loses the coin toss that it will get the ball if it can hold its opponent to a field goal.

    "What we're proposing has sudden-death qualities throughout it, even at the beginning," Fisher said. "Bottom line is that each team will have an opportunity to possess -- doesn't guarantee a possession."

    The proposed new rule, which would apply only to playoff games, will be voted on by the owners at a meeting next week.
     
  14. ChargerRay

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    I would eliminate the coin toss and just continue with the current offensive possession at the end of the 4th qtr. Play an entire 5th qtr and see who comes out on top.
     
  15. NORV4LIFE

    NORV4LIFE NO MORE NORV!!!!!

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  16. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Heck, just have the starting QB's meet at midfield and duke it out, winner takes all.:tup: :icon_toast: :icon_eek:
     
  17. vmax

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    I agree. Kickoffs were not exciting enough so the rules were changed to allow more and longer kickoffs. Offense was not exciting enough so the rules were changed to allow receivers to run down field. QBs needed more protection so rules were put in place which gives the offense more advantage. Too many concussions so no more hardhitting safeties for WRs to worry about giving the offense more advantage. Hmm, wonder why the team winning the coin toss has an advantage.

    Since apparently it is not realistic to stop a team from scoring a FG in overtime, this rule change will lead to defenses playing conservative to hold the opponents to a field goal. Blitzing or playing tight defense will only put the defense at risk of giving up a big play so it will only make sense to run a prevent style defense in overtime which I don't really care for. Then when Peyton loses an overtime game next year, the committee will need to get together again.

    I wish the league would realize the game is pretty good and not feel obligated to make rule changes every off season. Just my 2 pennies.
     
  18. LV Bolt Fan

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    Peyton Manning didn't cry about it, it was Peter King. :yes:
     
  19. DenverBolt67

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    One rule change I would like to see is QB's spiking the ball should be considered intentional grounding, as should throwing it away outside the pocket. Pretty mush any throw that is not intended to be caught should be grounding.

    The penalty should be loss of down and 5 yd penalty. This would give the defenses a little back for all the rules that have been imposed to help the offenses, and would do so without doing something that would risk an injury
     
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  21. keoni boi

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    Oh and the excessive endzone celebration F***ing crap!! I get enjoyment seeing that sometimes. They earned it. screw it! Pullin out a sharpie and signing stuff is freaking original and hillarious. :icon_banana::icon_banana::icon_banana:
     
  22. LV Bolt Fan

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    Disagree. Once again.....If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
    There's no reason to re-invent the wheel!
    Leave it alone!!!!!
     
  23. LV Bolt Fan

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    Agree.
     
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    New NFL Overtime Rule Would Prohibit Either Team From Getting Ball

    NEW YORK--NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said today that the league could approve a new overtime format as soon as next month. Under the new format, currently being reviewed by the competition committee, neither team would get the ball, eliminating the inherent unfairness of the current system which awards possession based on a coin flip.

    Aiello said the competition committee looked at several ideas, but none were as fair and neutral as the current favorite.

    “We looked at a lot of different ideas, but most of them were inherently flawed or unfair,” Aiello said. “The ‘no possession’ system, on the other hand, passes all the tests: It’s fair, it's even-handed, and it provides no unfair advantages to either team. The only downside, really, is that no football will be played. Still, there’s no such thing as a perfect solution.”

    The details of the proposed new format are as follows: If a game ends regulation, both teams’ captains will meet in the center of the field for a coin flip. The referee then flips the coin and then all players walk off the field and into the locker room, ending the game.

    “So basically we walk out to mid field, we have the coin toss, and the game is over,” said Aiello. “No more awarding possession based on a coin flip, no more quick, 40-yard field goal drives to end the game, and no more *****ing and moaning after the fact. We still have an overtime period. It’s just that nobody gets possession. If a team can find some other way to score, be our guests.”

    Reactions have been mixed to the latest proposal. Many observers have applauded it as a reasonable alternative to the current “broken” system, while others feel it will be anti-climactic. Still, few can argue that it will level the playing field more than ever.

    “It’s a decent alternative to what we have right now,” said Titans coach Jeff Fisher. “Sure, it might be a little anti-climactic but the important thing is to give each team an equal shot at winning. And in this case they have no shot at winning, which is totally equal. How will the fans feel about it? Who cares? What are they going to do, switch to the UFL?”

    Another proposal discussed would have had the winner of the coin flip automatically lose the game, thus eliminating the unfair advantage that goes along with winning the coin flip. Yet another suggestion involved eliminating field goals and touchdowns and forcing teams to win the game with extra points alone, but that was deemed impossible.

    If the current proposal is ultimately voted down, it will be back to the drawing board for the league.

    “Hopefully this will pass and we can move forward with it,” said Aiello. “But if not, we’re just go back to the drawing board and start over. We’ll come up with some solution that will make everybody happy, or at the very least equally miserable.”
     
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    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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