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Pffft...What Problems in this Victory?

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  1. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    No LT, no problem for Chargers in 33-31 victory over Arizona


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    Chargers kicker Nate Kaeding celebrates his game-winning field goal with teammate Mike Scifres in the Bolts' 33-31 win over the Arizona Cardinals in a preseason game in Glendale, Ariz.

    By Andrew Bagnato
    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    10:28 p.m. August 25, 2007

    GLENDALE, Ariz. – Even without LaDainian Tomlinson, the San Diego offense was in midseason form.
    Luckily for Arizona's defense, it's still the preseason.

    With quarterback Philip Rivers finding receivers all over the field, the Chargers first-team offense moved the ball at will against the Cardinals first-string defense in a 33-31 victory on Saturday night.

    Arizona (0-3) appeared to have it won when third-team quarterback Shane Boyd hit Matt Trannon for a 5-yard touchdown pass, giving the Cardinals a 31-30 lead with 1:05 to play. But Arizona's reserve defense let San Diego (2-1), led by Billy Volek, drive 53 yards on seven plays to set up a 37-yard field goal by Nate Kaeding with 2 seconds to go. It was Kaeding's fourth field goal.

    The Chargers first-team offense mounted four drives of at least 64 yards in the first two quarters and one series in the third quarter. If their offense plays like this all season, they may find themselves back in Glendale for the Super Bowl next Feb. 3.

    The only bright side for Arizona's beleaguered defense was a couple of forced fumbles deep in its own territory. Cardinals linebacker Gerald Hayes recovered one fumble and forced the other.

    Rivers completed 20-of-29 passes for 282 yards and two touchdowns. He hit Vincent Jackson for touchdowns of 33 and 6 yards.

    Arizona's Matt Leinart also had a good night, completing 10-for-16 for 196 yards and a touchdown. He did not play after halftime.

    “I feel good but I have to continue to get better and continue to get in my playbook,” Leinart said in a halftime interview. “I have too many mental errors, and that is just something that I have to continue to get better at.”

    The Cardinals knew their offense was solid. But it may have to be spectacular if the defense doesn't improve quickly. Arizona's defense ranked 29th in the NFL a year ago.

    The Chargers gained 265 yards in the first half, with Rivers completing 14-of-23 passes for 217 yards.

    On its first two possessions, San Diego marched 65 yards on 14 plays and 80 yards on 10 plays.

    The first drive led to a 33-yard Kaeding field goal. The Chargers converted three straight third downs on the drive, including a 24-yard pass from Rivers to Jackson on third-and-8 at their own 34.

    The second drive ended in a 19-yard burst up the middle by Darren Sproles, who faked safety Aaron Francisco to the turf and sprinted into the end zone.

    After the teams swapped field goals on their opening possessions, Arizona made it 10-3 on an 80-yard touchdown pass from Leinart to Anquan Boldin with 6:10 to go in the first quarter.

    Leinart stepped up in the pocket to avoid pressure and found Boldin wide open behind Quentin Jammer at San Diego's 40, and Boldin outran the coverage.

    “We wanted to come out and make a statement,” Boldin said at halftime. “Everybody around the league knows that the third preseason game is like a dress rehearsal, so we wanted to come out and show everybody what we were capable of.”

    Boldin, a Pro Bowler last year, finished with five catches for 143 yards and a touchdown.

    Leinart's backup, Kurt Warner, fumbled on his first series but then led a 10-play, 77-yard drive that pulled the Cardinals within 27-24 late in the third quarter. Warner completed 6-of-7 passes for 78 yards in a little more than a quarter.

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  2. Trumpet_Man

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    Chargers hope desert trip is Super preview

    Team would relish return in February

    By Kevin Acee
    UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

    August 25, 2007

    Only a few of them have been inside the building yet. None would want to spend even one second outside it this time of year.
    Today won't afford much time for a tour of the grounds or surrounding area anyway.

    This is a quick trip to the Phoenix area, the team not arriving in the heat of the Arizona summer until almost 2 o'clock for a 7 p.m. game against the Cardinals.

    But the Chargers will get to play on the field, sit in the locker room, walk the halls, soak in just a fraction of the game-day atmosphere at University of Phoenix Stadium. They hope it is not the last time this season.

    This is, in their minds, not to be just a preseason sojourn but also a scouting trip for an ultimate destination.

    Linebacker Shaun Phillips and a few others this week feigned as if they barely understood why someone would even point out the Chargers play their third exhibition game tonight in the stadium that will host Super Bowl XLII roughly five months from now.

    Phillips, having just offered a lame denial he could hardly believe he was trying to pass off, put his index finger to his lips as he walked away smiling.

    In fact, the Chargers players acting as if the idea they will be in the Super Bowl city hadn't crossed their minds was the best part of asking the question this week.

    With a grin as large as it was mischievous and a tone a little too harsh to be conveying the truth, center Nick Hardwick said, “We're not talking about that. I just want to see the architecture. I don't give a (hoot) about the Super Bowl.”

    But he and other Chargers will walk around the year-old stadium today with visions of returning. There was no denying that.

    “It's reassurance of how beautiful it would be to be there (in early February),” tight end Antonio Gates said. “Obviously that's the No. 1 goal for us. I don't think there is anything else. We could care less about winning the AFC West. That's all good, but it's all a steppingstone to our ultimate goal, which is to go to Arizona.”

    Philip Rivers will have other things on his mind. He and the other starters will play into the third quarter tonight in their last extended action of the preseason.

    The Chargers regulars mostly accomplished their goal of playing more intensely and smoothly last week in St. Louis. Now they hope to cut down on the penalties and get a tangible feel for what they can accomplish when playing cleanly.

    Rivers will be more concerned with his communication with coach Norv Turner, his reads and progressions and his receivers' execution than his surroundings while he is playing. But, yeah, he knows what is happening there.

    “It will cross my mind,” he said. “There are two reasons I'm looking forward to it. One, it's one of the new stadiums. And two, hopefully we'll play there twice.”

    There is another player who makes no pretense about what he'll be thinking as the bus pulls up to and then inside the stadium.

    The most candid of Chargers is right tackle Shane Olivea. The Long Islander speaks earnestly at all times. This the only trip to Glendale? Forget about it.

    “We fully expect to be back there,” Olivea said. “It's not like we'll talk a whole lot about it. But we'd definitely like to be back there. We expect to be back. If we're not back there, barring injury, this season has been a failure.”
     
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    No LT, no problem for Chargers in 33-31 victory over Arizona

    By ANDREW BAGNATO AP Sports Writer
    Article Launched: 08/25/2007 11:17:13 PM PDT

    GLENDALE, Ariz.—The San Diego Chargers moved the ball at will in a 33-31 preseason victory over Arizona on Saturday night.
    Imagine how potent they'll be when LaDainian Tomlinson returns to the lineup.

    "We spread the ball around and threw it pretty good for the most part," said quarterback Philip Rivers, who completed 20 of 29 passes for 282 yards and two touchdowns. He hit Vincent Jackson for touchdowns of 33 and 6 yards.

    The Chargers rolled up a staggering 506 yards of offense without Tomlinson, who has not played in the preseason.

    Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt had said the game against the defending AFC West champions would provide a measuring stick for his team. Afterward, he tried to put a positive spin on the game.

    "What I found out from our defense tonight was they never gave up," Whisenhunt said. "That's a good offensive football team out there, too. They've got a lot of weapons. We knew it was going to be difficult."

    Arizona (0-3) appeared to have it won when third-team quarterback Shane Boyd hit Matt Trannon for a 5-yard touchdown pass, giving the Cardinals a 31-30 lead with 1:05 to play. But Arizona's reserve defense let San Diego (2-1), led by Billy Volek, drive 53 yards on seven plays to set up a 37-yard field goal by Nate Kaeding with 2 seconds to go. It was Kaeding's fourth field goal.

    The Chargers' first-team offense mounted four drives of at least 64 yards in the first two quarters and one series in the third quarter. If their offense plays like this all season, they may find themselves back in Glendale for the Super Bowl next Feb. 3.
    "I think the impressive thing was the drives we sustained," Rivers said. "We had a lot of long drives. Obviously, you like a big play now and then, but we'll take those long drives."

    But Chargers coach Norv Turner was disappointed by two lost fumbles deep in Arizona territory by running backs Michael Turner and Lorenzo Neal.

    "Obviously, we moved the ball," Norv Turner said. "We did a lot of good things in the first half. But we can't turn the ball over."

    The turnovers were the only bright side for Arizona's beleaguered defense. Cardinals linebacker Gerald Hayes recovered one fumble and forced the other.

    "Our defense made some plays tonight that kept us in the game," Whisenhunt said.

    Arizona's Matt Leinart had another strong showing, completing 10 of 16 for 196 yards and a touchdown. He did not play after halftime.

    "I feel good but I have to continue to get better and continue to get in my playbook," Leinart said. "I have too many mental errors, and that is just something that I have to continue to get better at."

    The Cardinals knew their offense was solid. But it may have to be spectacular if the defense doesn't improve quickly. Arizona's defense ranked 29th in the NFL a year ago.

    The Chargers gained 265 yards in the first half, with Rivers completing 14 of 23 passes for 217 yards.

    On its first two possessions, San Diego marched 65 yards on 14 plays and 80 yards on 10 plays.

    The first drive led to a 33-yard Kaeding field goal. The Chargers converted three straight third downs on the drive, including a 24-yard pass from Rivers to Jackson on third-and-8 at their own 34.

    The second drive ended in a 19-yard burst up the middle by Darren Sproles, who faked safety Aaron Francisco to the turf and sprinted into the end zone.

    After the teams swapped field goals on their opening possessions, Arizona made it 10-3 on an 80-yard touchdown pass from Leinart to Anquan Boldin with 6:10 to go in the first quarter.

    Leinart stepped up in the pocket to avoid pressure and found Boldin wide open behind Quentin Jammer at San Diego's 40, and Boldin outran the coverage.

    "We wanted to come out and make a statement," Boldin said at halftime. "Everybody around the league knows that the third preseason game is like a dress rehearsal, so we wanted to come out and show everybody what we were capable of."

    Boldin, a Pro Bowler last year, finished with five catches for 143 yards and a touchdown.

    "Anquan's had a great camp," Whisenhunt said. "He's one of the best players on our team. He's a leader."

    Leinart's backup, Kurt Warner, fumbled on his first series but then led a 10-play, 77-yard drive that pulled the Cardinals within 27-24 late in the third quarter. Warner completed 6-of-7 passes for 78 yards in a little more than a quarter.

    Notes:mad: Three other San Diego regulars—defensive end Igor Olshansky, linebacker Matt Wilhelm and wide receiver Buster Davis—also sat out. Davis had four wisdom teeth pulled on Thursday night and did not make the trip, Norv Turner said. ... Michael Turner left with a sprained ankle in the first half and did not return.
     
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    Bolts Beat the Birds, 33-31

    Joe Robbins - Getty Images Sport By Michael Lombardo
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    Posted Aug 26, 2007

    The San Diego Chargers outlasted the Arizona Cardinals in a back-and-forth desert duel, claiming a 33-31 victory to improve to 2-1 on the preseason. Nate Kaeding drilled a game-winning 37-yard field goal with two seconds remaining to seal the win. The secondary suffered through a shaky outing, but the real concern is Michael Turner, who was carted off in the first half with an ankle injury.

    The evening got off to a rough start when J.J. Arrington returned the opening kickoff 70 yards, setting up the Arizona Cardinals at the San Diego 32-yard line. The Chargers defense rose to the occasion, forcing a three-and-out that led to a 50-yard field goal by Neil Rackers.
    The offense looked sharp out of the gates, moving downfield on a 14-play, seven-minute drive that set up a Nate Kaeding field goal. The big play of the drive was a 24-yard completion to Vincent Jackson on third-and-8. Jackson was money throughout night, catching four passes for 92 yards and a pair of touchdowns.

    As good as Jackson was, Anquan Boldin was even better. Arizona’s Pro Bowl receiver put the Cardinals back in front on the next drive, hauling in an 80-yard touchdown. On the play, Quentin Jammer followed Bryant Johnson into the flat while Boldin blew by Drayton Florence. Clinton Hart should have been providing help over the top but was nowhere to be found.

    The Chargers offense answered right back. Philip Rivers completed four of six passes on the drive, including a 23-yard completion to Antonio Gates. Seven plays later, Darren Sproles broke free up the middle, shaking Aaron Francisco and scoring from 19 yards out.

    The Cardinals fumbled the ensuing kickoff, with Nick Roach recovering the loose ball. However, Michael Turner gave the ball right back, fumbling after a hard hit by Karlos Dansby. The Cardinals took advantage of the turnover, moving downfield in just eight plays and putting six on the board with a 4-yard run by Marcel Shipp.

    The San Diego offense nearly got the points right back, but lost possession on a controversial play. Lorenzo Neal caught a pass out in the flat and somersaulted over cornerback Rod Hood. Neal got up and kept running, only to be hit by Gerald Hayes 5 yards shy of the end zone. The ball popped loose just as Neal’s knee hit the turf. Norv Turner challenged the ruling of a fumble but the play was upheld.

    The defense gave Neal & Co. a quick shot at redemption by forcing a three-and-out. The offense took full advantage, picking up 28 yards on screen pass to Sproles. Two plays later, Rivers found Jackson for a 33-yard touchdown, tying the score at 17.

    Quentin Jammer stopped the next drive by forcing his second fumble in as many weeks and the teams went into the locker rooms all squared up.

    The Chargers offense began to pile it on after the intermission. Rivers guided his team on an 11-play drive, capped off with a 4-yard strike to Jackson. Rivers would watch the rest of the game from the bench.

    The Cardinals turned to their back-up as well, bringing in former league MVP Kurt Warner. On his first play, Warner was sacked and stripped by Luis Castillo, who came up with the recovery as well. The Chargers converted the turnover into a 25-yard field goal by Kaeding.

    Arizona drew back within three by scoring on the subsequent drive, although that was hardly a fair exchange. While the Chargers had Cletis Gordon and Paul Oliver playing the corners, the Cardinals kept Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald in the game. As a result, Warner went 6 for 7 on the drive.

    The teams traded punts before Billy Volek nearly put the game away, driving the Chargers down to the Arizona 3-yard line with just over six minutes left. However, he misfired on a fade attempt to Greg Camarillo and the Chargers had to settle for a field goal and six-point lead, instead of pushing the lead to double digits.

    The Cardinals nearly made the Chargers pay with a gutsy drive led by third-string quarterback Shane Boyd. In just four minutes, Boyd marched his team 62 yards and found undrafted rookie Matt Trannon for a 5-yard score, as the 6-foot-6 receiver out-jumped 6-foot-3 Antonio Cromartie.

    Volek got the ball back with 1:06 left on the clock and no timeouts. Turns out, that was more than enough. He hit Sproles for 14 yards, Legedu Naanee for 12 and Kassim Osgood for 23, setting up Kaeding’s 37-yard game winner.

    Lightning Quicks: The Chargers gained 506 yards on offense...The severity of Michael Turner's injury was not immediately known...Craig Davis missed the game after having his wisdom teeth removed...Andrew Pinnock led the team with 60 yards rushing on 15 carries...Sproles led the team with six receptions, good for 73 yards...Roach and Brandon Siler both shined on special teams as they continue their heated battle for the final back-up linebacker spot.
     
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    Nice to see Nate make a kick to win the game. Hope he was simulating a playoff game in his mind...
     
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    Zactly what I was thinking .. :yes:
     
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    .... And hopefully silence the Volek and Osgood doubters but I think not.
     
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    Only when Osgood actually starts making catches during the regular season ..
     
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    SanDiegoRon - shame on you. :icon_eek:

    Ron left the game with 6 minutes to go and the Chargers trailing. I had to tell him our boy Osgood had the game winning catch to set up the field goal.

    Bad bad Ron !!! :icon_twisted:
     
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    Whatta dick :yes: :tdown:
     
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    I guess his game winning catch to set up the field goal in pre-season will not mean squat nor even catching passes in the regular season. Fans are dead set on hating this dude to a fault I have found. I am not giving up on this player as most have on this forum.
     
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    I gave it to him pretty good last night from what I remember. :lol: :flag: :abq2:
     
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    I think we should hold on to him just because of his special teams play .. but to think he is even going to be much of a threat in the receiving core come the regular season is misguided.
     
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    I was ready to throw him under the bus yesterday morning for Camarillo, but now i'm back to my quandary about the two.
     
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    There is a threshold players cross in my fan mind which makes a signature statement.

    Every player on the Chargers have to cross this threshold to be worthy in my book.

    In other words, I have to see this play on the field and bada bing they will win me over 100%.

    With Rivers, it was his last minute flip to Manu in the Bengals game last year for a TD before Rivers got creamed that solidified in my mind, this dude is worthy and has stones.

    Osgood had a game a couple of years ago against the Saints (if I remember correctly the opponent), anyway, Osgood literally tossed two defenders aside like ragdolls as he went in for a TD. That impressed the **** out of me to the point that was Osgood's threshold or his defining moment.

    With Hart, it was his INT against the Raiders a few years ago. The safety was in the right spot - finally.

    That is my football yardstick.
     
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    Oh and nobody has mentioned that Kassim absolutely got HAMMERED on his first catch.

    The dude was PASTED by the defender yet Osgood held on to the ball.

    Stones.

    That kind of **** wins me over.

    The guy is a flat out baller and hopefully more converts will step up and say, "ya know what, I was wrong about Osgood" :yes: :icon_toast:
     
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    I hope he can do this consistently, since I can't help but have visions of sugar plums with three receivers as tall as Kassim, Floyd and Jackson teamed up with Gates and a guy like Chandler. He would represent remarkable depth at wide receiver when Parker is back and with Davis and Naanee on the roster.
     
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    that game was totally fun to watch... great seats, great stadium, fun football...

    GO #81...
     
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    When I saw Reliant in Houston my first thought is San Diego deserves something like this. I got to meet the Mayor of Houston and the Texans team owner that day as well. I even shook their hands I was so excited about being in such a beautiful stadium. I congradulated them both for a tremendous job and then the lights went out in the 4th qtr. :lol:

    The Mayor of Glendale was on TV pimping how the new stadium is an economic engine and emplored all San Diegans to find a way to make it happen. :yes:
     
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    Mebbe premature is a better word...still it can't be denied Kassim was a major contributor last nite...'bout time, sez I, although I don't know that he's had muchuv an opprtunity with KM, Parker and the emergence of VJ.

    I believe he can do well given the opportunity, which apparently he's gonna get.
     
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    Yup, he got smoked and he held on...that impressed me more than anything else he did!! :yes: :tup:
     
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    Another defining moment which makes you sit up and say "whoa".

    The way Osgood got up and shook it off as though to say "that was your best shot....pffft"

    I bet he got a few attentions last night. :yes: :bolt:
     
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    Good game for Osgood, now lets see some consistency...

    Secondary got torched though and, correct me if I'm wrong, but was that Hart's assignment on the 80 yd Boldin td?

    Maybe it is just the "vanilla defense in the preseason" but I was not impressed by the lack of push up front on defense...
     
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    Hart will be on the Podcast either this week or next week so we can ask him to bust down that play.

    It looked like the Chargers were in Cover 4 with Weedle at SS blitzing (the TV does not let us see the backfield which sucks) anyway, this puts Hart (the other safety) on the opposite side of where the play happened and why we see him come in late.

    If the Chargers were in Cover One with Weedle blitzing and Hart is the FS on the play then OUCH. The FS is standing in the middle of the field in that alignment (not shaded one way or another) and he should not get torched.
     
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    maybe he had a lil something something waiting back at the hotel:tup:
     
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    Besides KO's a former SDSU Aztec ain't he? As an alum I have to cut him some slack. I think he had a good enough game last nite that coupled with his record of excellent ST play definately gives him the edge over Camarillo.

    You hate to let someone else get a weapon like KO:icon_shrug:
     
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    Agreed.

    Osgood has more starts at WR than the entire present staff combined or some silly stat I heard from James Lofton on the radio the other day.

    The WR staff had something like 21 starts combined and Osgood had more than half of those starts. :icon_eek:
     
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    They sure were glad-handing and generally cuttin up with Volek on the sidelines after that last drive...that's good, a comin together. sorta!! :yes: :tup:
     
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    I'm thinkin that was up at Chokeland, '04 :icon_shrug: :icon_huh:
     
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    It has been a long time since I have said I like all 3 of our QB's. Everyone kicks *** at that spot. :bolt:
     

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