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Replacement officials continue to make a mockery of the NFL

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner – 8 hours ago
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ials-continue-mockery-nfl-114253266--nfl.html

    "We expected going in, just like the players going through the preseason, that every week they would get better. The first week, we had some rough spots and we got better from the first week to the second week and we expect to get better this week, too, and on and on. This is the third week and it seems to me they've had a pretty solid first half. Uneventful, that's exactly what you want. That's the improvement we expect ... these current officials are the ones out there and we'll work with them." -- NFL vice president of football operations Ray Anderson.

    "These officials have been trained. We've been working with them. We think they'll do a very credible job." -- NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
    Gentlemen, there are some things you just can't spin.

    And one of those things is the simple fact that the NFL's replacement officials are turning the nation's most popular and visible sport into a complete and utter joke. Through the preseason, replacement refs, put in place due to a labor impasse between the league and the NFL Referees' Association, have bungled the simplest things -- clock management, where to spot the ball, and which signal corresponds with a penalty. Official Craig Ochoa even had trouble remembering which city he was in when calling the game between the Baltimore Ravens and Atlanta Falcons on Aug. 9.

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    After a few attendant goofs in Thursday night's games -- most notably in the Tennessee Titans-Arizona Cardinals and Cincinnati Bengals-Green Bay Packers games -- the beer league refs were at it again. This time, they showed their inexperience with extremely embarrassing calls in two games. First, this knee-slapper in the game between the New York Giants and Chicago Bears:
    http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pl...stId&mediaId=d5c99be9fedd4bd3aff8f048bcead069

    As much as we can figure, Bears cornerback Charles Tillman ended the first quarter with a defensive pass interference penalty. NFL rules stipulate that a game or a half cannot end on a defensive penalty, unless the penalty is declined by the offense. The refs, led by referee David White, seemed to understand that much. What they failed to understand was that the first quarter is not tied to the same rules. And because they did not realize that, the Giants got an extra untimed play at the end of the first quarter. On a play that started at 0:00 of the first quarter according to the official gamebook, Eli Manning threw a nine-yard pass to Domenik Hixon.

    "For the second time in this game, we've come to the end of the first quarter," announcer Greg Gumbel quipped.

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    Then, there was this beaut in the second quarter of the Vikings-Chargers game. With 12:27 left in the first half, Vikings running back Lex Hilliard lost control of the ball while still fully upright after a tackle by Chargers safety Eric Weddle. Nonetheless, Wayne Elliot's crew called Hilliard down by contact, and Chargers head coach Norv Turner had to throw the challenge flag. After a very long time indeed, the officials saw fit to reverse their decision. We're waiting for the video on this one, so we'll go with the eyewitness account of Mark Craig of the Star-Tribune:

    A disgusted [Chargers head coach Norv] Turner whipped his red challenge flag high into the air before the Vikings had a chance to snap the next play into action. The ruling was overturned, giving the Chargers the ball at the Vikings' 31-yard line. Seven plays later, they kicked a 34-yard field goal to take a 6-0 lead.​

    Vikings punter Chris Kluwe may have put it best on his Twitter account:
    The NFL really needs to kiss and make up with the refs. These replacements are horrible. Frankly, it's kind of embarrassing. I'm sure they're trying hard, but they're just not good. So many blown calls tonight in both directions.​
    Speaking of ball control and blown calls, let's play a game of, "What Is an Interception, Anyway?"
    http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pl...stId&mediaId=cb999d9d95d040b78a71db2dc18a0be1
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    Chargers defensive back DeAndre Presley would like to know.And we would like to know why it takes three flippin' years to make a correct decision on a call that is crushingly obvious.

    Now, consider this -- even though Norv's challenges were both correct, he had just one remaining in the game, because he had expended those first two. If the NFL is going to continue on with officials at this level of incompetence, the least it could do is to give the coaches an automatic challenge on every single play.
    The most the NFL could do would be to come to terms with the real officials, because this is going to get very ugly when the regular season starts and the games actually count.
     
  2. Buck Melanoma

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    With all due respect, Rog - screw you.
     
  3. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    With all due respect to his highness, the refs have looked worse each week, if such a thing is even possible.

    Can you forget what you never knew to begin with?........ it's a conundrum. ;)
     
  4. Lancer 1

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    I am starting to worry about the impact that replacement refs will have on the outcome of games in the regular season. Last night’s game was a perfect example, when Norv twice had to throw challenge flags in order to get the ball for our offense after defensive turnovers were not called as such – just imagine the same scenario, only late in a game in which we are out of challenges and are now screwed due to referee incompetence...
     
  5. SDRaiderH8er

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    If Goodell is happy with these guys, then those are the refs that will be out there on opening day. If someone thinks they can do a better job, all they have to do is submit a resume to the NFL.
     
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    The guys who can do a better job are all currently being locked out by the NFL
     
  7. SDRaiderH8er

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    and that shows how much leverage they have. The NFL is willing to go ahead with the replacements.
     
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    They shouldn’t be, these 3 preseason weeks have shown how in over their heads these replacement refs really are.

    If the NFL proceeds with them into the regular & postseason, they will cause teams to lose with their blown calls in critical situations, and could even cause some big name players to get injured.

    I think Roger Goodell is betting that they will all get much better as the season progresses and they just might, but they’ll still be a far cry beneath the skill level of the folks who have been doing it for decades at the NFL level.
     
  9. FCBolt

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    No respect to Goodell for this crap. The whole "we're going to tell you the opposite of what's happening and expect you to believe it" went out with Bush II.

    Kidding. It's obviously everyone's m.o. these days.
    So **** Goodell too.
     
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    That is something the owners have to worry about.
     
  11. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    The fumble and interception calls last night....were two of the worst I've ever seen, ever. Including high school.
     
  12. SDRaiderH8er

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    The NFL wants full time refs, which is good. However the Refs want to be paid like baseball and basketball. Baseball umpires are on the road from March through October calling games almost every single day of the week. They start thier season in January with a one week rules clinic and mechanics review. What are the refs going to do in the offseason to justify those wages.
     
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    well then submit a resume to the NFL and start calling games
     
  14. Charger Dave

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    I hope someone had a camera on Norv tossing that first red flag. Would like see a replay to evaluate his arm. Apparently, Hank Bauer and Josh Lewin were impressed - sounded like they were describing a Scifres punt for distance and hang time. :rolleyes:
     
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    Norv may have to take blood pressure medication if this keeps up. ;)

    For the health of the coaches, the old refs need to be brought back.
     
  16. Lancer 1

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    He was a quarterback in college (Dan Fouts' backup & roommate at Oregon) so it would stand to reason that he would have at least an average arm...
     
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    Oh, gee, really? :rolleyes:..

    Yeah, its kinda common knowledge there Lance.
     
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    Common knowledge is often like common sense - sometimes, it ain't so common...
     
  19. Charger Dave

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    Couldn't agree more Blue - watching that last crew probably made more fans than just me assure they had taken their bp meds. ;)
     
  20. Buck Melanoma

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    Buncha friggin' scabs.
     
  21. Blue Bolt

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    One person's scab, is another person's division 1 nitwit.
     
  22. Buck Melanoma

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    And for now, Division 1 (or the FCS) is where these guys belong.

    FT refs are in order - I feel fairly certain that something can be added to their role to justify a FT salary. Maybe training alternates for one thing.
     
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    Learning on the job is not acceptable for NFL refs...... it undermines the integrity of the game. Something Goodell is "allegedly" concerned about.
     
  24. Buck Melanoma

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    As long as the money keeps pouring in & the owners are reasonably happy, King Goodell doesn't give a crap.
     
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    Their united happy face will crack the moment one of these owners loses a real game because of a blown call.

    I hope it's Jerry Jones. :tup:
     
  26. Buck Melanoma

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    I'll take Jerry or Kraft. ;)
     
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    I picked Jerry, because I know his reaction will be epic. :D
     
  28. HollywoodLeo

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    Gotta love football fans.

    Each and every Sunday it's nothing but conversations and griping about how the refs don't know what they're doing.
    Replace them with amateurs and now they're begging for them back.

    You don't know what you've got until it's gone. :roflmao:
     
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  29. Blue Bolt

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    It's a tradition..... some things are just expected. Ragging on the refs is one of those time honored traditions.
     
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  30. Concudan

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    Football fans are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
     
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