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Roethlisberger won't face sexual assault charges

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  1. Johnny Lightning

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    Report: Roethlisberger won't face sexual assault charges

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 9, 2010 7:18 PM ET
    Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers may be able to rest easier this weekend.

    Kelly Naqi of ESPN reports that Roethlisberger will not be charged after a one-month investigation into sexual assault charges stemming from a March 5 incident in Milledgeville, Georgia.

    Ocmulgee (Ga.) Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fred Bright will hold a press conference Monday at 2ET to announce his decision.

    Roethlisberger also faces an ongoing civil lawsuit over sexual misconduct in Nevada. He has not been charged with a crime in either case.
     
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    If Roethlisberger isn't charged, he could still face league or team discipline

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 9, 2010 9:47 PM ET

    Our pal Brooks of SportsByBrooks.com has dissected various flaws arising from ESPN's rush to report that Ocmulgee (Ga.) Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fred Bright will announce Monday that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be charged with sexual assault. But Brooks ultimately concludes, and we agree, that ESPN wouldn't go with this story if the reporters had the tiniest sliver of doubt regarding its accuracy.

    If that's what Bright announces on Monday -- that Roethlisberger won't be charged -- the matter won't be completely closed. Roethlisberger still could be sued, pursuant to the much lower standard of proof applicable to civil suits.

    More importantly (as it relates to his NFL career), Roethlisberger could face discipline from the league or from the team.

    The NFL could impose a penalty under the Personal Conduct Policy, even without a criminal prosecution. "While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct," the Personal Conduct Policy reads, "and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not simply enough to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful." (Emphasis in original.)

    The Personal Conduct Policy then lists the various circumstances in which discipline may be imposed. The first two items specifically mention "criminal offenses." Later, the list includes "[c]onduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players." An easy case can be made that, even without charges, Roethlisberger's reportedly admitted conduct -- sexual contact with a 20-year-old girl in the bathroom stall of a nightclub -- "undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation" of the league, its teams, and its players.

    That said, the Personal Conduct Policy contains some potentially conflicting language regarding the issue of discipline. "Unless the case involves significant bodily harm," the document states, "a first offense will generally not result in discipline until there has been a disposition of the proceeding." This sentence strongly implies that, for a first offense, the player won't be disciplined absent the filing of criminal charges.

    It's possible that, in Roethlisberger's case, the league will regard the Nevada incident as a first offense, and thus treat the Georgia incident as a second offense. The problem, of course, is that it's impossible for the league to conclude whether either incident constitutes an "offense" unless the league has conducted its own investigation.

    As a result, we tend to think that, despite language suggesting that punishment can be imposed without criminal charges or an arrest, the league will be reluctant to go down that path, unless Roethlisberger would ultimately lose the civil case in Nevada and then lose the separate civil case (if one filed) in Georgia.

    Of course, that won't stop the team from taking action. In an effort to commence the process of reclaiming a reputation of good behavior, the Steelers could choose to impose a short suspension (one or two games) for conduct detrimental to the team. Roethlisberger could fight the suspension with the assistance of the union, and unlike league-imposed suspensions Roethlisberger would be entitled to have the matter reviewed by an independent arbitrator. That said, Roethlisberger's long-term interests likely would be best served by taking whatever punishment the Rooneys mete out, to be glad that he avoided an outcome that could have been much worse, and to avoid moving forward any circumstances that could give rise to similar allegations.

    Again, all of this assumes that he won't be charged. If the ESPN report is indeed accurate, we expect others to be "confirming" it over the weekend.
     
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    He's too white to go after.
     
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    King: Santonio trade is a "shot across the bow to Big Ben"

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 11, 2010 11:51 PM ET

    The Twitter servers are being overloaded this evening as word spreads like wildfire of the trade that sent Super Bowl XLIII MVP Santonio Holmes to the New York Jets.

    Ironically, the move comes only days after Ken Laird of ESPN 1250 in Pittsburgh reported that Holmes didn't believe the Steelers will pay him big money, and that Holmes wanted to play in a big market.

    And so the former Buckeye is now paired with a former Wolverine, Braylon Edwards. They'll both be catching passes from a former Trojan, while a former Horned Frog sits at the end of the bench and pouts.

    Meanwhile, Peter King of SI.com and NBC put it best in characterizing the move: "A shot across the bow to Big Ben." King also points out that the Steelers could have played this out for something more than a fourth-round pick, but that the Steelers opted to get it done, displaying a "we're not gonna take it anymore attitude."

    We're also wondering whether the Steelers pulled the trigger on the deal so quickly because they fear there's a chance that, come 2:00 p.m. E.T. on Monday, they'll get another dose of bad news from District Attorney Fred Bright, ESPN's report on the matter notwithstanding.

    Either way, the stakes for Monday's press conference just went way, way up. If Roethlisberger gets charged, he could be the next one to be traded for a cold turkey sandwich with wilted lettuce.
     
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    PFT Daily: Countdown for Big Ben announcement

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 12:05 PM ET
    District Attorney Fred Bright will announce in just under two hours whether he'll pursue charges against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. And even though ESPN has reported that Roethlisberger won't be charged, one thing we've learned from this crazy-*** offseason is that anything can happen.

    So while we've got no real reason to doubt the ESPN report (especially since PFT is getting plenty of run on SportsCenter today), we need to adhere to our habit of calling it like we see it.

    For a look at what could happen with or without charges being filed, we give you a special bonus edition of PFT Daily.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22825103/vp/36422734#36422734
     
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    District Attorney says allegation cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 2:05 PM ET


    As reported by ESPN on Friday, Ocmulgee (Ga.) Judicial Circuit D.A. Fred Bright has announced that charges will not be pursued against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    Bright announced that the allegation of sexual assault cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and that Roethlisberger will not be prosecuted.

    More to come.
     
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    Alleged victim said on March 17 that she wanted to drop the case

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 2:16 PM ET


    Lost in the much-hyped announcement that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't face charges for sexual assault is the fact that, as District Attorney Fred Bright said Monday, the alleged victim's lawyer told Bright on March 17 that she no longer wished to pursue the matter.

    Bright said he met with the alleged victim and her family 10 days ago, and they confirmed that they did not want to pursue the matter.

    So why the dog and pony show? This one is a no brainer. If the victim doesn't want to proceed, it would be even harder for Bright and company to get a conviction.

    And the outcome leaves open the door that Roethlisberger's lawyers quickly and quietly settled the claim in the days between March 5 and March 17. We're not saying that it occurred this way, but this is the way it would go down if a secret and confidential payment had been made.
     
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  10. Johnny Lightning

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    I think he did it and paid her off...

    JMHO
     
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    I agree. Now let's see what Goodell & the Rooney's charge him. :yes:
     
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    Letter from alleged victim's lawyer doesn't recant the claim of sexual assault

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 4:33 PM ET


    During his Monday afternoon press conference announcing the decision not to pursue charges against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, District Attorney Fred Bright cited a letter from the alleged victim's lawyer, in which the lawyer explains that the alleged victim does not wish to proceed.

    The full text of the letter has been published by multiple outlets, including the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    "After a great deal of deliberation," attorney David F. Walbert states, "our client has instructed us to advise you that she does not want to prosecute this matter further. While I am well aware that the prosecution decision rests with the district attorney, and not a complaining party, it is appropriate that you be aware of this fact as you make your decision."

    Walber wrote that a public trial would be a "very intrusive personal experience" for the alleged victim, given the "extraordinary media attention." Walbert further explained that "this decision does not reflect any recanting of our client's complaint, but simply a realistic, personal decision as to what is in her best interests, and what it would be like to go through a trial with the expected media attention."
    There are two possible explanations, as we see it. First, the letter is completely truthful and accurate, and the alleged victim abandoned her claim with no strings attached. Second, the letter is completely truthful and accurate, and a confidential settlement has been reached.

    If it's the latter, the truth likely won't emerge for years, if ever.
     
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    Text of letter from Roethlisberger's accuser to DA

    Monday, April 12, 2010

    Text of the letter from the attorney for Ben Roethlisberger's accuser to District Attorney Fred Bright:

    March 17, 2010

    Re: Benjamin Roethlisberger

    Dear Mr. Bright:
    As you know, we represent the complainant in the referenced matter, and it is about that that I write you at this time.
    After a great deal of deliberation, our client has instructed us to advise you that she does not want to prosecute this matter further. While I am well aware that the prosecution decision rests with the district attorney, and not a complaining party, it is appropriate that you be aware of this fact as you make your decision.
    What is obvious in looking forward is that a criminal trial would be a very intrusive personal experience for complainant in this situation, given the extraordinary media attention that would be inevitable. The media coverage to date, and the efforts of the media to access our client, have been unnerving, to say the least.
    In short, no matter what the outcome of a criminal trial, our client has had sound professional advice since this incident that participating in a public trial would not at all be in her best interest as she goes forward with her life. That is a decision that we, as her attorneys, fully support. As should be clear from what I have said here, this decision does not reflect any recanting of our client's complaint, but simply a realistic, personal decision as to what is in her best interests, and what it would be like to go through a trial with the expected media attention.
    Please let us know if you need any further information.
    With best regards, I remain very truly yours
    David F. Walbert


    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10102/1049823-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml#ixzz0kvhFdqaJ
     
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    I'm guessing the most they will do is a one game suspension... yeah right...

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    Steelers leave door open for punishment of Roethlisberger

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 5:26 PM ET


    With District Attorney Fred Bright announcing today that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't face charges for sexual assault, the Steelers have reacted to the news.

    "The investigation process in Georgia has been deliberate and the District Attorney's decision regarding Ben Roethlisberger speaks for itself," team president Art Rooney II said.

    "During the past few weeks I have met with Ben on a number of occasions, not only to discuss this incident, but also to discuss his commitment to making sure something like this never happens again. The Pittsburgh Steelers take the conduct of players and staff very seriously. Ben will now have to work hard to earn back the respect and trust of Steelers fans, and to live up to the leadership responsibilities we all expect of him.

    "In the coming days Ben will meet with Commissioner Goodell to discuss his resolve to abide by the league's personal conduct standards. After consultation with the Commissioner, our organization will determine the next steps in this process."

    That last sentence leaves the door open for a team-imposed suspension. We continue to believe that the league office will choose not to set a precedent of disciplining players under the Personal Conduct Policy who have never been arrested or charged, and that the Steelers will impose a short suspension of one or two games for conduct detrimental to the team.

    Though Roethlisberger could fight a team-imposed suspension, we think Goodell will make it loud and clear to the quarterback that accepting the punishment is the right thing to do in light of the worry and strain that his behavior has caused.
     
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    Roethlisberger to address the media at 7:00 p.m. ET

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 6:06 PM ET


    Only hours after being cleared of sexual assault charges in Georgia, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will address the media at 7:00 p.m. ET at the team's headquarters in Pittsburgh.

    Roethlisberger has been silent throughout the process, undoubtedly on the advice of counsel.

    Stay tuned.
     
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    Roethlisberger apologizes for "negative attention"

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 7:13 PM ET


    Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, reading a short statement from the locker room at the team's facility, addressed on Monday night the decision of prosecutor Fred Bright not to pursue charges against Roethlisberger for sexual assault.

    Stating that he would discuss none of the details, Roethlisberger said that he was "truly sorry" for the disappointment and "negative attention" he has caused.

    He acknowledged that "much is expected of me," and he said that he wants "to be the leader this team deserves." He said he knows that he has much "work to do" to earn that trust, that he's "more determined than ever to have a great season," and that he intends to make the team, his family, and his fans "proud on all fronts."

    Frankly, if he'd applied that approach previously, he never would have been doing whatever he was doing with a 20-year-old girl in a single-seat bathroom only five-feet wide. Allegedly
     
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    Bradshaw on Roethlisberger: "He doesn't like me, and I'm learning not to like him"

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2010 8:11 PM ET


    Steelers Hall of Fame quarterback Terry Bradshaw, who has made a great post-football living as a football analyst and commentator, has offered up some strong analysis and commentary regarding current Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    "Our relationship is not any good," Bradshaw said of Roethlisberger, in video available at ESPN.com. "When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident, and since then he doesn't like me, and I'm learning not to like him."

    Added Bradshaw, "He has got to realize who he is. He is an elite athlete in the National Football League. He's got an image problem right now. Best thing to do is never put yourself in that position again."

    Bradshaw's comments on his personal feelings regarding Roethlisberger aren't unique. Several folks in the national media have shared with us details of unpleasant interactions with Roethlisberger. We realize that there are two sides to every story, but as we told someone regarding Browns coach Eric Mangini during a challenging 2009 season, his friends are silent and his enemies aren't.
     
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    The prosocutor annihlated him when giving the reason that no charges were pressed. Sounds like the evidence was clearly there but the accuser was so black out drunk her word wasn't credible enough.

    ****. Ben just dodged a huge bullet, possibly a full blown rape1 conviction.
     
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    Company ends jerky sponsorship deal

    Associated Press

    4-13-2010

    PITTSBURGH -- A Pittsburgh company that markets food products endorsed by local sports stars has ended its beef jerky sponsorship deal with Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    PLB Sports president Ty Ballou says Roethlisberger is "falling short" of the company's standards after a Georgia prosecutor announced Monday he will not prosecute the quarterback over sexual assault allegations.
    The company said in a statement on Tuesday that facts presented at the prosecutor's news conference led to the decision.


    The company sold "Big Ben's Beef Jerky" in bags depicting the quarterback at Pittsburgh area Giant Eagle supermarkets and GetGo convenience stores.


    The same company markets a breakfast cereal endorsed by Steelers receiver Hines Ward and Penguins forward Max Talbot.
     
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    Comments like that by the DA are inappropriate if no charges are being files. If the young woman was that drunk, then her testimony is worthless. I'm all for having a good time, but getting that insensible when you're out bar hopping is about as dumb a move as you can make. Anyone, male or female, who goes at it hard it enough to lose that much presence of mind out in public at night is a ship wandering blind around a mine field. I've gotten increasingly leery about speculation in possible criminal cases. Forget Rothlisberger, just strolling through The Innocence Project site is a real eye opener about the flaws in the system. No filed charges, dead end. Period. I suspected no charges would be filed when it took so long to wrap up the investigation. I was sure that a DA in a Georgia back water would be gunning for charges, and that's what it sounds like. If there had been a glimmer of a chance, he would have gone for it. The odds in a jury trial down there would not have favored Ol' Ben.
     
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    It was pretty shocking. He was extremely graphic when describing the emergency room examination, and sounded downright disgusted when talking about Roethlisberger himself. And there is no indication that this was some fame driven ambulance chaser like Gloria Allred, the guy is supposedly very respected.

    Its also suspicious that the security tapes at the bar were conveniently DESTROYED by the cops before the prosecutor even got to view them...:tdown:
     
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    But you have no problem with the "victim" crying r*pe, then deciding not to press charges? :icon_huh:
     

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