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Rookie holdouts extend misery in Denver

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  1. Johnny Lightning

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    August 3, 2009 10:00 AM

    Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

    The last thing the Denver Broncos need is another disaster.
    It's been a turbulent offseason in Denver as the team transitions to the Josh McDaniels era. It's been a rocky road.

    First, there was the Jay Cutler fiasco, which resulted in his trade to Chicago. Later in the offseason, star receiver Brandon Marshall, unhappy with his contract, asked to be traded. The Broncos need some good fortune. They don't need any more problems or distractions.
    Namely, they don't need any rookie holdouts. But that's what they are dealing with.

    Denver's two first-round picks, running back Knowshon Moreno and defensive end/linebacker Robert Ayers (who was part of the Cutler trade) are holding out and have not been at camp. The Denver rookies were due a week ago. Moreno and Ayers are missing their fourth day of training camp with the full squad.

    Denver needs to sign both Moreno and Ayers very soon. Both players are expected to have major roles on the team. If they miss anymore time, they may have difficulty getting ready for the start of the regular season. Denver begins the season Sept. 13 at Cincinnati.

    A contract negotiation can change in five minutes, but so far, progress has been slow.

    Again, this is the last thing Denver needs. The Broncos have had too many distractions in 2009.


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    I heard that their former first round pick Jarvis Moss is also contemplating retirement. What a ****** franchise they have become.
     
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    and, for more fuel to the fire - from Peter King - MMQ

    Assuming that Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Renaldo Hill and Andre' Goodman make it to opening week without injury, Denver will have the oldest starting secondary of any team in this decade.


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    Good luck trying to cover Jackson/Chambers/Naane/Floyd, oh yeah you guys couldn't do that to begin with
     
  6. Johnny Lightning

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    Aug 3 2009 | 11:49:43 am

    There are conflicting reports on what's ailing Broncos WR Brandon Marshall.

    The AP says it's a hamstring while the Denver Post says it's Marshall's surgically repaired left hip. For now, the Broncos aren't saying.
     
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    A big Bronco forum, 'Orange Mane' got their press credentials revoked in the aftermath of printing a insult directed at team owner Pat Bowlen.

    That should tell you that the entire organization is frazzled and thin-skinned. :icon_rofl:
     
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    Just watched the ticker on ESPN and Ayers just signed. Moreno is still out however.

    GO CHARGERS!:bolt:
     
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    Damn that's the guy that really mattered to them. They have like 4 RBs (Peyton Hillis, J.J. Arrington, Correll Buckhalter, Ryan Torain) that can start, big deal if Moreno doesn't sign. Plus, their defense was what sucked bad. They can live without Moreno for the season.
     
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    Denver's defense needs more that what Ayers can bring by himself. Their secondary is going to leak like San Diego's sewer system, especially after their old farts start getting hurt. Their running backs get nicked, too.
     
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    I agree, Ayers isn't a fix-all. But a possibly decent pass-rushing LB who can lock down his position for years is more important to that sorry team than a RB in their system. They can always plug-n-play their RBs, and it's not like they don't have enough depth if one or two get hurt.

    I'd rather Knowshon gets all their dough so their defense has nothing to work with. But hopefully he at least becomes another distraction for the team. With our guys having a relatively quiet and uninteresting offseason (other than a few too many beverages, VJ), it's sooo good to see dysfunction on all our AFC West counterparts. I love that the main story on our team is that people are healthy. Boring, uneventful, and good for the soul.
     
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    I feel so bad for them.

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    Denver is looking like the south end of a north bound mule.

    Love it. :abq2:
     
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    What is funny about the Ayers pick is that if they plan on running the 3-4, Ayers is a better fit as a 4-3 DE from what I have read.
     
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    Rookie holdouts extend misery in Denver

    Gotta love it!

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    Hochuli returns after last year's gaffe

    Associated Press

    August 4, 2009

    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- NFL referee Ed Hochuli received the warm welcome he expected when he arrived at Dove Valley on Tuesday to help officiate the Broncos' 11-on-11 team sessions and explain new rules to the players and coaches.

    "Yeah, he's one of our favorite guys," coach Josh McDaniels said. "The whole team was excited to see Ed Hochuli today. ... As soon as I introduced him there was a big cheer. They haven't forgotten last year against San Diego."

    Neither has Hochuli, who met with the players to explain rules changes, including the "Ed Hochuli Rule."

    In response to Hochuli's big blunder last year, team owners this offseason passed a rule allowing video replays on a loose ball that could be either a fumble or an incomplete pass.

    Hochuli famously ruled then-Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler to have thrown an incomplete pass in the final moments of a Week 2 game with San Diego last season. Replays clearly showed it was a fumble that the Chargers recovered, but the play was not part of the review process. Denver kept the ball and won the game seconds later, 39-38.

    Now, the play is reviewable.

    "If that play were to happen now it would be San Diego's ball at the spot of recovery," Hochuli said.

    Hochuli, who will be at the Broncos' workouts for the next two days, is good-natured about the new rule nicknamed after him but he's certainly not proud that his gaffe caused such a stir.

    "I wish that I had not made a mistake that had to result in a rule change. But beyond that, it goes with the territory," Hochuli said. "This is my 20th year in the NFL. You put yourself out there in front of literally hundreds of millions of people every week and they're going to analyze everything in slow-motion and those types of things. And hopefully most of the time you're right, and if you're not, you're not around any longer.

    "So, most of the time you don't make mistakes and you move forward. But unfortunately we're going to occasionally make a mistake."

    Many Chargers fans felt Hochuli was off the hook once San Diego beat the Broncos in the season finale last year to clinch the AFC West title.

    Hochuli didn't see it that way, though.
    "You're just thinking about getting the plays right and you never root for a team or you never say, 'Geez, I'm glad that team won,' " or anything like that," Hochuli said.

    Had the Broncos held on to their three-game lead with three weeks to go before their colossal collapse that cost coach Mike Shanahan his job, Hochuli would still be Public Enemy No. 1 in San Diego, where he has a home, splitting his time between Phoenix and Southern California.

    "I don't want a mistake of mine to affect a team. I didn't like that it affected the outcome of that game. And I wouldn't want it to affect the outcome of whether a team gets to the playoffs," Hochuli said.

    "So, if you look at it after the fact, sure it's nice that mistake didn't keep a team out of the playoffs. But my point that I'm trying to make is at that time, I certainly wasn't thinking, 'Oh, I hope San Diego wins that game to get me off the hook.' Because nothing will get me off the hook for the mistake. It was a mistake and nothing's going to make it go away."

    Hochuli won't be going to the Chargers camp this year. The league assigns three or four officials to go to each of the 32 training camps, and he drew Denver.

    "I'm glad to come to Denver. It's a great city. I knew the weather would be good up here," Hochuli said. "The last time I came to camp in Denver, the camp was up in Greeley, and so I was looking forward to seeing the new facility and to seeing Josh's system and see how things are going."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4377566
     
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    August 7, 2009 12:25 PM

    Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

    While progress has been made, Tyson Jackson is not signed in Kansas City and neither is Denver's Knowshon Moreno. Still, the negotiations continue Friday in both cities and deals could be struck soon.

    Denver safety Brian Dawkins is out for two weeks after breaking his hand, the Denver Post reports. Under this timetable, Dawkins will have plenty of time to heal before the season starts Sept. 13.
     
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    Cutler disses Denver fans on radio show

    The Denver Post
    08/07/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT

    Jay Cutler is back to frustrating Broncos fans.

    Interviewed Tuesday night on ESPN Radio in Chicago, Cutler was asked about the 20,000 fans who showed up to the Bears' practices over the weekend. Cutler said Denver didn't compare as a football town.

    "In Denver, we didn't have this many fans at all," he said. "We weren't even able to accommodate that many fans (at practice). That's Chicago Bears fans for you. They're proud of their Bears.

    "It's a lot (different). Denver's like a 6 and Chicago's like a 9. It's a quite bit different. Just the fans and how passionate they are, that's probably the biggest difference."

    Cutler returns to Denver for the Week 3 preseason game Aug. 30 at Invesco Field at Mile High.
    "Denver, am I looking forward to it? No. Just the whole hoopla that's going to come along with it," he said. "I'm excited to go back and see some of the guys there. I've got some really good friends back there, and get back to Denver and see if my house is still standing. Other than that, that's about all I'm excited about Denver."


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