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Roster Struggles; Secondary

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  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Training camp is working its way into its first full week, many people have looked at the San Diego Chargers and felt weakest link of this very strong and talented team is it secondary. AJ Smith has put some efforts into resolving this issue in the last couple of drafts, using the first pick of the 06 draft on CB Antonio Cromatrie, bringing in veteran S Marlon McCrre, and this year taking SS Eric Weddle in the second round and CB Paul Oliver in the fourth. In what is quickly becoming a Charger tradition under General Manager AJ Smith a number of undrafted free agents were also invited to camp to provide depth and compete for a roster position.

    Our roster now boasts a group of fourteen secondary players; eight corners, and six safeties. They will be fighting for an approximate nine spots on the active roster, and perhaps one spot on the practice squad, that at the end of the ’06 season did not contain any secondary players. They will be competing with each other and veterans who try to remain on the squad. But the Challenge does not end midway through camp, or even after the first or second round of cuts. The scouting staff of the Chargers will be busy looking at the players cut from other squads during the same time. It very well could be that the players will end up having to compete against fresh faces before it is all said and done.

    Last season the Chargers active roster held a combination of nine secondary players. At this point, based on the improved play of the secondary from the ’05 season to the ’06 season I do not see this changing..

    Who are the ‘shoe ins’ for the team? Most of us know them, but you never know with the NFL, Pro-Bowl players have found themselves cut the following year in the past, as was the case recently with Hanik Milligan, who was a Pro-Bowl Special team’s player in 2005, and found himself cut and playing for the Cardinals in 2006.

    We can almost count on the fact that the following players will be back, it is neigh inconceivable that they would be cut, even given the hectic and unforgiving nature of the NFL:

    Player information source: Chargers.com
     
  2. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    CONCUDAN’S SHOE IN’S

    Marlon McCree, #20, S, 7 year veteran:
    The lone veteran free agent signed by the Chargers in 2006, Marlon McCree left an indelible mark on the Chargers’ secondary in his first year as the team’s starting free safety. McCree quickly showed that he was a leader both on the field and off. He took his secondary mates under his wing and the effects showed as the Chargers finished the year ranked 13th against the pass. It was a significant improvement from 2005 when San Diego’s pass defense had slipped to rank 28th among the league’s 32 teams.

    2006: Started Weeks 1-10 at free safety...delivered bone-jarring hit and pass break up on deep ball intended for Courtney Anderson on Oakland’s first offensive series of game in Sept. 11 season opener...was one of two pass breakups for McCree, tied with Shaun Phillips for team high...helped clinch win over Pittsburgh Oct. 8 on Sunday Night Football with fourth quarter interception off Ben Roethlisberger after he’d been pressured by Phillips...Bolts led game at time 20-13 and drove for field goal on ensuing possession that gave team 10 point lead with just over minute to play...helped close out 48-19 win at San Francisco Oct. 15 with six-yard sack of Alex Smith late in fourth quarter...led Bolts with eight stops against 49ers...Chargers Alumni Player of Week after making pivotal play in third quarter of Oct. 29 vs. St. Louis...recovered fumble and returned it 79 yards for touchdown to give Chargers 21-7 lead over Rams...was third-longest fumble return in team history...was McCree’s second-career touchdown, but first on fumble return...tallied seven stops against Rams, tied with Terrence Kiel for most among secondary...led secondary and ranked second on team with 12 tackles in Nov. 12 win at Cincinnati...inactive Weeks 11-12 due to calf injury...returned to starting lineup Week 13 vs. Denver...paced team with 11 tackles, including two for loss, in Dec. 17 win over Kansas City...teamed with Randall Godfrey to stop Tony Gonzalez for two-yard loss late in first quarter...then tackled Larry Johnson for four-yard loss on Kansas City’s first play of second quarter after Chiefs had taken over possession at San Diego’s 36-yard line following interception...intercepted pass and collected tackle for loss among four stops in AFC Playoff game vs. New England...helped force Patriots three-and-out early in second quarter by tackling Laurence Maroney for four-yard loss on second-and-five play...intercepted fourth-down pass off Tom Brady in fourth quarter.

    Quinton Jammer #23, CB, 6 year veteran:
    Quentin Jammer emerged as one of the league’s top shutdown cornerbacks in 2006. Thought by some to have had a season worthy of Pro Bowl consideration, Jammer matched his career high with a team-leading four interceptions and he paced the defense with 17 passes defensed. He did all this after signing a five-year contract extension with the team last August that will keep him in the Chargers’ secondary though the 2012 season.

    2006: Started Weeks 1-16 at left cornerback...collected first interception of season Week 2 against Tennessee with 11-yard return...pick came on fourth-and-seven play late in third quarter and resulted in Vincent Jackson touchdown catch on ensuing drive to give Bolts 33-0 lead over Titans...finished Tennessee game with five unassisted tackles and pass defensed...intercepted pass and led team with two passes defensed Week 3 at Baltimore...interception came on 42-yard pass intended for Derrick Mason at Chargers’ 29-yard line...Jammer returned pick 11 yards...made another outstanding play with pass breakup on out route intended for Mason on second play of third quarter...paced secondary with seven solo tackles while helping limit Pittsburgh to 220 yards passing in Sunday Night Football win Oct. 8...made key block against Torry Holt to allow Marlon McCree to go distance on 79-yard fumble return for touchdown in Chargers’ 38-24 win over St. Louis Oct. 29...was third-longest fumble return in team history...recorded nine tackles against Cleveland Nov. 5, tied with Terrence Kiel for most among secondary...led team with three passes defensed, including two outstanding plays in the fourth quarter of Chargers’ Nov. 12 win at Cincinnati...had first breakup on opening drive of third quarter on deep ball intended for Chris Henry to force three-and-out...then early in fourth quarter, he helped force punt by breaking up pass intended for T.J. Houshmandzadeh in front of Bengals’ bench to prevent a first down...then at end of game as Cincinnati was driving for potential game-tying touchdown, Jammer broke up pass intended for Chris Henry in end zone...Chargers Alumni Player of Week after making one of bigger defensive plays of season with early fourth quarter interception against Oakland Nov. 26...pick came as Raiders were driving with 14-7 lead...offense converted INT into touchdown that tied game at 14-14...he also finished contest with team-high three of squad’s eight passes defensed...helped force second-quarter punt by breaking up passes on consecutive second and third-down plays, including deep pass to John Madsen and another to Randy Moss...intercepted pass on first series of game at Buffalo Dec. 3 and Bolts converted turnover into field goal for early 3-0 lead...was fourth pick of season to match career high...Dec. 17 vs. Kansas City, led team with five passes defensed...part of season-high 10 PBU effort by defense...turned in perhaps one of biggest defensive plays of Dec. 31 game against Arizona...at end of first half with Chargers up 17-7, closed out half by tackling Anquan Boldin short of goal line and keeping him in bounds as Arizona was out of time outs...play would be key as Chargers would eventually win game by seven points, 27-20...finished the game with eight tackles and two passes defensed, both of which led secondary...both of his passes defensed came on drives when Chargers defense forced Cardinals to go three-and-out...started AFC Playoff game vs. New England and led secondary with seven tackles, including one for loss...broke up pass on third down which was then tipped by Marlon McCree and nearly intercepted by Clinton Hart during Patriots’ opening drive to force three and out...ended second quarter drive with three-and-out by breaking up third down pass intended for Reche Caldwell...Bolts scored touchdown on ensuing drive to take lead in game at 7-3...stopped Jabar Gaffney for two-yard loss on second play of third quarter to help force three-and-out.
     
  3. Concudan

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    Bhawoh Jue, #27, S 7 year veteran:
    Bhawoh Jue (Bow Joo) had a frustrating year in 2006. Fresh off a season in which he led the squad and set a new career high with three interceptions, Bhawoh was hampered early in the season by a knee injury that sidelined him for four weeks. He came back and played the entire second half of the season and is optimistic that it will provide a springboard for him into 2007.

    2006: Saw action Weeks 1-2 at safety...was inactive Weeks 3-6 while recovering from knee injury...returned to action Weeks 7-10...started Weeks 11-12 for injured Marlon McCree (calf) and played Weeks 13-16...also saw action in AFC Playoff game vs. New England...helped force Raiders punt at end of first half with pass breakup against Randy Moss on third-down play near goal line...tallied tackle for loss and pair of passes defensed as starter in 24-21 win at Buffalo Dec. 3...he and Donnie Edwards combined for two-yard tackle for loss in third quarter.

    Drayton Florence, #28, CB, 5 year veteran:
    Drayton Florence responds well when his back is against the wall. A year ago the Chargers drafted Antonio Cromartie in the first round and the youngster was brought in to compete for a starting spot. How did Drayton respond? He did so by posting career highs in tackles and passes defensed, while recording the second-highest interception total of his career. Two of his three picks proved to be pivotal as they took place late in the fourth quarter of late-season division games that helped the Chargers close out 2006 with 10 straight wins and their second AFC West title in the last three seasons.

    2006: Started Weeks 1-16…led secondary with five tackles Week 1 at Oakland…broke up pass Week 2 against Tennessee and just missed interception with clear path to endzone in front of him…had three-yard tackle for loss Week 3 at Baltimore…provided second-half spark with interception off attempted flea-flicker in Oct. 8 Sunday Night Football win over Pittsburgh…picked off deep ball intended for Santonio Holmes just three plays after Bolts had kicked field goal to get within 13-10…Chargers drove 11 plays and 91 yards on ensuing possession to score touchdown and take 17-13 lead they would not relinquish…nearly intercepted pass on deep ball late in third quarter intended for Antonio Bryant at San Francisco Week 5…still broke up pass, which was his team-leading sixth pass defensed of season…tied for team high with two pass breakups against Cleveland Nov. 5…one of pass breakups occurred on third-down play in fourth quarter to force field goal when Chargers led 17-12…made outstanding effort on fourth down play late in fourth quarter to break up pass intended for Glenn Holt in end zone and allow Chargers to preserve 49-41 win at Cincinnati Nov. 12…helped seal Chargers Nov. 19 win at Denver with late fourth-quarter interception off Jake Plummer on fourth-and-four play with 3:10 remaining…returned pick 23 yards to Broncos’ 23-yard line and five plays later, Chargers scored touchdown to claim 35-27 lead…defense then made stand as Chargers closed out victory…closed out Bolts’ 21-14 win over Oakland Nov. 26 with interception on first play after two-minute warning…pass was tipped at line of scrimmage by Matt Wilhelm on fourth-and-13 play…Chargers took knee after pick and ran out clock for victory…led team with three passes defensed in 24-21 win at Buffalo Dec. 3…racked up team-high three passes defensed in Dec. 10 win over Denver…second-consecutive game with three passes defensed…opened Broncos game by ending Denver’s first offensive series with pass breakup against Rod Smith on third-and-eight play…started AFC Divisional Playoff game against New England and registered first-career postseason interception off Tom Brady in third quarter.

    Antonio Cromartie, #31, CB, 2 year veteran:
    During his rookie season, first-round draft choice Antonio Cromartie blossomed into a dependable cover corner and special teams performer for the Bolts.
    Cromartie was the team’s sixth-leading tackler on special teams and he averaged a lofty 29.7 yards per return as a kickoff returner. Unfortunately he didn’t register enough returns to quality for the NFL rankings, but if he had, his 29.7-yard average would have led the league.

    2006: Saw action Weeks 1-16 and in AFC Playoff game on defense and special teams...made outstanding play in single coverage to break up deep pass near goal line intended for Torry Holt in Oct. 29 game against St. Louis...had perhaps best day as pro in Chargers’ 32-25 win over Cleveland Nov. 5...in first quarter with score tied 3-3, chased down NFL’s leading punt returner Dennis Northcutt as he appeared on way to 91-yard touchdown return...was able to catch him from across field and force out of bounds at 10-yard line...instead of touchdown, San Diego’s defense held Cleveland to field goal and kept score at 6-3 instead of 10-3...made even bigger play on special teams late in third quarter...with Cleveland up 12-10, Chargers punted from Browns’ 37-yard line and he made great play to get downfield and down ball at two-yard line...San Diego’s defense forced three-and-out on ensuing drive and after Browns punt, LaDainian Tomlinson scored touchdown on 41-yard run on first play to give San Diego lead for good at 17-12...on top of it all, Cromartie finished game with team-high two special teams tackles...helped force third quarter three-and-out in Chargers Nov. 19 win at Denver...with Chargers’ trailing 24-14, broke up deep pass intended for Rod Smith on first-down play...after three-and-out, Bolts scored TD to climb back within 24-21...set up Chargers’ first touchdown of Oakland game Nov. 26 with 91-yard kickoff return...it tied for seventh-longest in team history and was Bolts’ longest since Ronney Jenkins 93-yarder against Raiders in Oakland Nov. 18, 2001...LT scored on four-yard run two plays after KOR...teamed with Kassim Osgood to down punt at two-yard line in second quarter of Dec. 3 game at Buffalo...afterward, defense forced three-and-out and offense scored TD before end of half to take 17-0 lead to locker room...helped set up touchdown that gave Chargers 21-3 lead over Denver Dec. 10 with 45-yard kickoff return...collected two special teams tackles Week 15 at Seattle...had big pass breakup on third-and-two play early in fourth quarter of playoff game...after punt, Bolts drove 83 yards for touchdown to take 21-13 lead.

    Eric Weddle, #32, SS, Rookie out of Utah:
    In the second round of the 2007 NFL Draft, Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith brokered a trade with Chicago to move up 25 spots in the round so that he could draft former collegiate jack-of-all-trades, Eric Weddle from the University of Utah.
    An extremely smart and versatile player, Weddle saw action as a safety, cornerback, quarterback, running back, punter and punt returner during his Utes’ career. He also was involved in special teams on Utah’s punt and kickoff units, and as a holder on placements. Primarily a defender, Weddle scored 11 touchdowns during his career, including six as a rusher, three on interception returns, one on a fumble return, and he threw a touchdown pass.

    COLLEGE: Mountain West Conference Defensive Player of Year in 2005 and 2006...second-team All-America choice as junior and consensus first-team choice as senior...first Ute since Luther Elliss in 1994 to earn consensus All-America honors...first-team All-MWC as junior and senior...Defensive MVP of 2005 Emerald Bowl...second-team all-conference, honor roll, Dean’s List student and elected to school’s Football Leadership Committee as sophomore in 2004...Freshman All America, All-MWC honorable mention and Academic All-MWC pick as frosh in 2003...set school record by forcing nine career fumbles...MWC record and second in school annals with 18 career interceptions...also second on Utah list with three INT returns for touchdowns...ranked eighth in country with seven interceptions as senior, tying conference record and ranking second on school’s single-season list...only player in school and conference history to score touchdowns passing, rushing, on interception return and fumble return in season (2006) and career...Walter Camp National Player of Week after 2006 game against San Diego State in which he intercepted three passes, returning two for touchdowns, and ran for another score...also in ’06, was on field for 90 plays in game against Air Force, scoring two rushing touchdowns and held winning field goal in 17-14 Utah victory...interception late in fourth quarter against Tulsa in 2006 Armed Forces Bowl sealed victory in final collegiate game...played at Utah from 2003-06...majored in special education.

    Those are the six players who will be on the Chargers roster at the end of camp. That leaves two maybe three positions left for the others to compete for.
     
  4. Concudan

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    ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN

    Gordon Cletis, #24, CB, 2 year veteran:
    A former undrafted free agent from Jackson State, he earned a spot on the roster in 2006 due to his speed and athleticism. Gordon spent the entire year on the active roster, but he only saw action in a couple of games. He provides the Chargers with a dual threat as both a cornerback and punt returner. This year, Gordon is hopeful of parlaying his athletic abilities into more playing time.

    2006: Inactive Weeks 1-10, 12, 14-15 and for playoff game vs. N.E....spent Weeks 1-2 recovering from wrist injury...dressed but did not play Week 11...saw action on special teams Week 13 vs. Denver...handled kickoff and punt returns in Dec. 31 season finale against Arizona...returned two kickoffs for 55 yards with long of 32.

    Paul Oliver, #25, CB, Rookie out of Georgia:
    The Chargers strengthened their depth in the secondary when they used a fourth-round selection in the 2007 Supplemental Draft to take Georgia cornerback Paul Oliver. The versatile, aggressive Oliver was to be one of the top defensive backs in college football when he chose to enter the Supplemental Draft in July.

    College: Appeared in 38 games and started 15 in three seasons…as a junior, finished fifth on team with 57 tackles and added three interceptions as well as two sacks…limited Georgia Tech All-America WR Calvin Johnson to two catches and 13 yards at home as a junior…named team’s Most Improved Defensive Player as a sophomore…recipient of Iron Man Award in 2002 for perfect attendance at offseason workouts…played at Georgia from 2003-06…redshirted in 2003…majored in housing.

    Steve Gregory, #28, CB-S, 2 year veteran:
    As an undrafted rookie free agent, Steve Gregory was probably thought by some to be a long shot to make the team. After spending the first two weeks of the 2006 season on the practice squad, Gregory was promoted to the active roster and he didn’t disappoint as he became one of the team’s top special teams performers. He’s back for his second year and looking for an even bigger role this season.

    2006: Spent Weeks 1-2 on Chargers’ practice squad and played Weeks 3-16 and in playoff game vs. New England…signed to active roster Sept. 30 and played against Ravens Oct. 1…took over at corner for injured Quentin Jammer in fourth quarter and made great play to break up deep pass intended for Derrick Mason on third-and-five play to force punt…collected two special teams tackles Oct. 15 at San Francisco…led team with season-high three special teams tackles against St. Louis Oct. 29…led team with three special teams stops against Denver Dec. 10.

    Tra Battle, #36, SS, UFDA out of Georgia:
    COLLEGE: Associated Press third-team All-America and second team All-SEC as senior…also named first-team all-conference by league’s coaches…SEC and Walter Camp National Defensive Player of the Week following schoolrecord-gying three-interception game versus fifth-ranked Auburn during 2006 season…collected all three picks, including one returned for touchdown, in first half…special teams captain as senior and recipient of team’s David Jacobs Award for showing courage to overcome adversity…recipient of team’s Iron Man Award for not missing practice or summer workout in 2004…part of senior class that finished 40-12, including 3-1 in bowl games, while playing in two SEC Championship Games, winning league title in 2005…finished career with 155 tackles and eight interceptions…played at Georgia from 2003-2006…chemistry major.

    Gabe Franklin, #38, SS, 1 year veteran:
    A UFDA in 2006 out of Boise State, did not play for the Chargers last season.

    Quinton Jones, #35, CB, UFDA out of Boise State:
    COLLEGE: Western Athletic Conference Special Teams Player of Week after Oregon State game and Defensive Player of Week following Wyoming game of senior season…2005 second-team All-America by Sporting News and honorable mention All-America by SportsIllustrated.com after ranking second in nation in punt return average (20.9 yards per return)…three punt returns for touchdown tied for most in nation…also named Boise State’s Special Teams Player of Year…set school record with 92-yard punt return for touchdown against Hawaii…matched long with 92-yarder against Boston College in MPC Computers Bowl…spent 2004 season as tailback, wide receiver and kick returner before shifting to cornerback 2005-06…redshirted in 2002…played at Boise State from 2002-06…majored in social science.

    Clinton Hart, #42, FS, 5 year veteran:
    Clinton Hart is rapidly making a name for himself as one of the NFL’s up-and-coming safeties and special teams performers. He’s coming off a career year in which he set personal highs with three interceptions and a team-leading 22 stops on the Bolts’ specialty units. Had it not been for teammate Kassim Osgood, Hart may very well have been selected to the AFC Pro Bowl squad. As it was, Hart still earned a trip to Hawaii, compliments of Osgood, his close friend and teammate.

    2006: Clinton Hart played Weeks 1-16 and playoff game vs. N.E. on defense and special teams...collected two special teams stops in season opener at Oakland...started Week 3 at Baltimore at strong safety, collecting six tackles...delivered big-time performance in Oct. 8 Sunday Night Football game against Pittsburgh, leading team with three tackles on special teams...also collected tackle for loss when he and Matt Wilhelm combined to stop Bryant McFadden for two-yard loss on fake punt attempt in second quarter...racked up career-high six tackles on special teams to go along with four stops on defense Oct. 15 at San Francisco...put Chargers in position to potentially drive for late game-winning score in fourth quarter of Oct. 22 game at Kansas City with third-down pass defensed against Tony Gonzalez to force punt...second on squad with two special teams tackles Oct. 29 vs. Rams...turned in several big plays in Nov. 5 game against Cleveland...broke up second-quarter pass intended for Braylon Edwards and Donnie Edwards came away with interception on play...also had forced fumble in game and tied for team high with two passes defensed...tied for team high with two special teams tackles Nov. 12 at Cincinnati...intercepted pass and recovered fumble at Buffalo Dec. 3...recovered fumble on last play of first half and intercepted JP Losman in fourth quarter with Chargers leading 24-14...recorded career-high two interceptions in Chargers’ 27-20 win at Seattle on Christmas Eve...both picks occurred in San Diego territory, and he tied Donnie Edwards for team lead with season-high three passes defensed...had first pick in first quarter at Chargers’ 23-yard line on pass that was tipped by Edwards and he had second late in second quarter on ball that he made diving catch on at Bolts’ six-yard line...also had hand in another HUGE play in third quarter, drawing holding penalty against Seattle’s Ben Joppru to negate 96-yard kickoff return for touchdown by Nate Burleson after Chargers had kicked field goal to take 10-0 lead.

    Miguel Merrick, #44, SS, UFDA out of Iowa:
    COLLEGE: Honorable mention All-Big Ten choice as senior…team captain and recipient of team’s Defensive Coaches Appreciation Award and Special Teams Award…won 2005 Hawkeye Hustle Award for defense…in 2004, won team’s Next Man in Award for defense and Hustle Team Award for special teams…blocked punt that was returned for touchdown against LSU in 2005 Capital One Bowl…finished career with 202 tackles, three interceptions, 15 passes defensed and two punt blocks…redshirted in 2002…played at Iowa from 2002-06…graduated with degree in communications.
     
  5. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    There are the eight players on the camp roster who will struggle for the few remaining roster spots. We can predict and debate until September about who it will be. But they will lace them up and compete in camp for those spots. That my friends are where we win, we will see good camp battles, we will see people working to keep their job. This makes the team better and the camps more poignant in my opinion.

    Let us not forget that there are but 8 allowed practice squad spots available each year. These spots cannot be set until early September, so as the month of August closes out, we could see some drama as we try and anticipate what is going to happen to the players and the positions.



    That is my opinion, what is yours?
     
  6. AnteaterCharger

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    I don't think Jue will make the team or if he does he'll be the fourth safety and WAY down on the list
     
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    Gregory and Oliver make it

    imo.

    Gregory because he brings special teams skills and Oliver because we used a third? round pick on him
     
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    I hope Tra Battle makes the team, because his name is cool. Other than that, I dont' really know who the rest of the newbies are. 9 spots.

    Cro
    Flo (for now:()
    Jammer
    Jue
    Hart
    McCree
    Weddle

    And I'd expect Gordon and Gregory to make the squad. I dunno after that though. It's nice to have some depth to work with though and I'm pretty confident in our starters. But screw Florence I hope Cro benches his *** by week 1.
     
  9. reddenedbeard

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    Oliver makes this team .. except for an injury.
     
  10. Concudan

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    I think he will, he is a good depth player and can hit well. There is no real reason at this time to cut him unless one of the newbies really makes a push. But Jue has been steadily improving as well.

    The position is his to lose.
     
  11. LittleTrain

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    Hart and Oliver have to make it.

    Gregory & Cletis fight for the last spot and/or one might be on the PS.

    Cro
    Flo
    Jammer
    Jue
    Hart
    McCree
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    Oliver
    Gregory/Cletis
     
  12. Steve

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    Given how tight the roster situation will be, I think Jue makes it because he has played CB before. Potentially, with him and Weddle, we have 2 nickel/Dime CB/S who can do a lot of things. I agree that he doesn't do any of them all that well, but he is a good depth player from the standpoint that he could if we needed him. That he has as much starting experience as anyone but Jammer doesn't hurt either.
     
  13. AnteaterCharger

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    Safeties
    Hart, Jue, Weddle, Mcree

    Cornerbacks
    Jammer, Florence, Cromartie, Gregory & Gordon

    PS
    Oliver, Battle
     
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    yeah, i can see oliver on the ps.

    was he injured?
     
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    Didnt you just post that Jue doesnt make the team?
     
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    How smart would it be to try to put Oliver on the PS after we gave up next year's 4th rounder for him in the supplemental?

    Then, any club could just pick up him with a one-year rookie minimum and we've got nothing to show for it.
     
  17. wrbanwal

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    huh?

    teams can't just raid our ps

    can they???
     
  18. Concudan

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    An excellent point. I also do not see us putting two secondary players in the PS, when typically we have used it to maintain depth at high imapct positions.

    2006 Practice Squad:
    T Jeromey Clary, Kansas State
    QB Brett Elliott, Linfield College
    DB Steve Gregory, Syracuse
    RB Tyronne Gross, Eastern Oregon
    DT Brandon McKinney, Michigan State
    C Nick Mihlhauser, Washington State
    DT Chase Page, North Carolina
    RB Ray Perkins, S.E. Louisiana



    So we had Gregory signed to it on Spetember 3rd, but he got activated. The rest of the postions went to linemen, RBs and a QB.
     
  19. Concudan

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    Yes I believe they can indeed to just that. Shammy?
     
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    Too much is invested in Oliver for him to be on the practice squad. I expect him to make the roster. He played against some good talent in college ball and while there is going to be an obvious learning curve, I see him making the club. He was projected as a potential 1st rounder.
     
  21. WonderSlug

    WonderSlug Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Any team can sign any player off any PS by giving them a regular contract.

    That's how we lost Wesley Britt to the Pats. They signed him off our PS.
     
  22. RayDahayder

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    My thoughts, exactly. Gregory was a very good special teams guy last year and I think he'll improve enough at CB to make his way onto the roster. Oliver looks like he's got potential and he'll push his way in, too.

    eric parker is the surprise cut this year. Maybe even Osgood. He's not much of a WR and we may have guys to replace him on STs in Waters, Siler and some others.

    both Osgood and Parker could be good trade bait. Send them both packing to a team for a 3rd rounder?
     
  23. Dublin Bolt

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    Shoe ins - McCree, Jammer, Florence, Cromartie, Hart, Weddle, Oliver, Gordon and Gregory.

    On the bubble - Jue (has not lived to his billing or his own talk, he doesn't even appear on the depth chart on chargers.com not that that means much) and the rest.

    PS - Battle and/or Franklin.
     
  24. LittleTrain

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    Anyone on the practice squad can be signed by another team IF the new team puts that player on its active roster. It's a way of keeping clubs from limiting players opportunities to actually get on a roster with another team.

    That's why Oliver WON'T be on the practice squad, but I could see the other two I listed being risked.
     
  25. wrbanwal

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    this rings a bell in the cobwebs.

    the key would be that he HAS to be put on the active roster.

    pretty risky move for a supplemental pick?
     
  26. WonderSlug

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    Not really if a team has one of it's CBs go down during the season.

    Then, they sign Oliver to a rookie minimum contract and make him the backup CB (#3). They risk only $250K.
     
  27. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    My sourses are indicating that Clinton Hart has been hitting the gym hard this offseason.

    He considers the starting position his, and any draft choice has to win the spot from him.

    He also is indicating that his play will talk for him, and not his words.

    This is the stuff I love to hear, I want to see good things from him this season.

    He played well in Phili when the player before him went down.

    I love to hear that he is going o fight for a right to start! I love that!! If he is solid with this and comes like the spot is his, I will support him more than Papa T-Bone does!
     
  28. Trumpet_Man

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    I spoke to Clinton Hart today and he said that he has indeed been hitting the gym and was going to let his play speak for itself. He said he has shown he can play at this level.

    The dude sounded dead serious that his job was going to be one that if anyone wanted it, they would have to out play him for it.
     
  29. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    That player, I believe was Dawkins. I could be wrong and if I am I'm sure it will be duly noted. Hart is a gamer and I have always liked him, he either puts up or gets out. it's all in his hands at this point.:bolt:
     
  30. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    That is good to hear Trumpie. The bottom line for me is production, I once asked why he couldnt beat out Keil. When he got here I thought he was better than coughboy.

    He is a solid hitter, and a ball hawk, at least he showed that at Philli when the guy went down in font of him.

    I know I am not in the locker room, but the bottom line for me, and I believe other fans is production. Hart has played well for us, but hasnt lived up to my high expectations of him. But it is a new season, so lets see what the man brigns to the field!
     

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