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Saints fans already grumbling about Brees

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ChargerRay, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. ChargerRay

    ChargerRay #FireMcCoy #FireReich #FirePagano Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    This is from oru affiliate Saints site "Saints Revolution". Many feel that he not an upgrade over Brooks.

    http://www.saintsrevolution.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7832

     
  2. WonderSlug

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    Yeah, but don't they feel privileged that they pay $10 million this season, and $12 million the next for the honor of calling him crap?

    :lol:
     
  3. The Admiral

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    it was a good move for the Saints to pick up Brees.

    the Saints need a leader and a winning attitude 2 things i dont think they have ever had.
    A guy who has won and knows how it feels to win and hopefully can pass that on and help other Saints know what winning is all about.

    But the Saints should have thought long term and have Brees sit out and get healthy.....But
    Brees will play.......get hurt.......and the Saints will suck

    the cycle of sucking just wont break for the Saints
    even with Bush
     
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  4. Trumpet_Man

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    http://www.saintsrevolution.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7832&st=15

    [quote name='Trumpet Man' date='Aug 27 2006, 02:22 PM' post='78858']
    Hello Saints fans.

    I am a famous poster from San Diego :D

    I post at Bolttalk.com and over the the SignonSanDiego.com Chargers forums.

    Drew Brees was a product of some damn fine talent which was around him. I am not here to flame the Saints and am a hardcore fan of the Chargers for over 40+ years going back to the mid-60's.

    What you are going to find frustrating with Drew Brees is he can not hit the deep post or deep outs. Anytime a teams brags they are going to stack the box (the Broncos) and basically tell you there is not a damn thing you can do about it, makes me angry beyond belief.

    The running lanes get cut off and DB's squat on their routes and also cheat up on the lines which makes life hell for LaDainian Tomlinson and crew.

    Drew is a prima donna and is not a firey leader. He had to be prodded by his teammates to show more outward leadership.

    The receivers were always having to wait for the ball or make incredible catches exposing their rib cages.

    I admire the Saints fans as long suffering fans just like me. I have already buried my dad and step dad and we have yet to get our Lombardi. My team is the last one in the division to have earned the right to be called Super Bowl champs and we get it tossed in our faces regularly.

    Most fans were upset Drew was not offered more money to stay in San Diego and some were equally pleased he was finally gone (me included).

    I suspect we have seen the best of Drew Brees. He could not afford to lose anything from his gun because his arm was marginal at best.

    Drew will be best suited for a short dink and dunk passing game otherwise, you are in trouble. Your receivers better have some amazing skills to catch the ball because as I stated, you will need it.

    I wish you guys the best and deserve better as fans IMHO.

    Cheers

    T-Man
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    I got banned for this and the following posts and then had the ban lifted....because I know leisure. :lol:
     
  5. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2589482

    Saints within 1,000 season ticket sales of selling out all games

    Associated Press
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    METAIRIE, La. -- Brisk sales at the New Orleans Saints'
    headquarters brought the number of season tickets available for the
    2006 season down below 1,000, team officials said Friday.

    Less than two weeks ago, the Saints had about 3,000 season
    tickets remaining. Since then, the Saints have opened their regular
    season with a victory at Cleveland and the NFL has secured rock
    bands U2 and Green Day for performances prior to the Saints' first
    regular-season home game on Monday night, Sept. 25.
     
  6. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Brees and Brooks are completly different QB's, If they want Brees to do good they need sure handed tall recievers, not speed deamons with stone hands.:icon_rofl:
     
  7. Kitsune-udon

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    I'd take Brees as he is now over Brooks.

    On an aside, I wish the Raiders gave us as many gimmies as they're giving the Ravens. If this is the best the Ravens can do against the Raiders, I have high hopes for our game against them.
     
  8. AnteaterCharger

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    Brees over Brooks is kinda like a cold/feeling so-so over a major flu
    And to be honest Brees played damn well against the Packers in coming back from the bad situation he had brought them into. So I'll give him some respect as he deserved and earned it
     
  9. BFISA

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    I don't believe they're b1tchin too much about being 2-0...that hasn't happened in NO inna while.
     
  10. Thunderstruck

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    To me the Saints are the perfect example of a team that should not be given too much credit for their 2-0 start. We played two bad teams and totally dominated them to the point where their fans are near-suicidal, and looked so good in doing it that people simply can't accept that we're really that good, so it must be the competition. That Saints played two bad teams and barely beat both of them, and did not look particularly good in doing it.
     
  11. BFISA

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    Scoreboard
     
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    you may be right, Bro, but I'll the Panthers'd swap records with the Saints right now.
     
  13. Thunderstruck

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    Of course. I didn't say starting 2-0 was a bad thing. But take a look at the remainder of the Saints schedule. It is BUH-rutal...

    If they go 5-9 in their next 14 games I'll be surprised. I'm thinking 6-10 is a very realistic prediction for the Saints at this point.
     
  14. Thunderstruck

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    Here's the Saints remaining schedule.

    Atlanta 7:30 PM CT
    10/01 at Carolina 12:00 PM CT
    10/08 Tampa Bay 12:00 PM CT
    10/15 Philadelphia 12:00 PM CT
    BYE
    10/29 Baltimore 12:00 PM CT
    11/05 at Tampa Bay 12:00 PM CT
    11/12 at Pittsburgh 12:00 PM CT
    11/19 Cincinnati 12:00 PM CT
    11/26 at Atlanta 12:00 PM CT
    12/03 San Francisco 12:00 PM CT
    12/10 at Dallas 12:00 PM CT
    12/17 Washington 12:00 PM CT
    12/24 at N.Y. Giants 12:00 PM CT
    12/31 Carolina 12:00 PM CT

    Do you see 5 wins in there? Can they beat Tampa and Carolina twice each, because looking at the rest of their games, with the exception of the Niners, it seems like beating any other team on that list would be an upset.
     
  15. BFISA

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    Guess I'm not much inta predictions...anahoo, nuthinta get lathered up about.
     
  16. turbo_turtle

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    Those are my predictions in bold including red for losses and green for wins on the rest of the season for the Saints.
     
  17. PhilipRivers#1

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    They won't beat Tampa.
     
  18. turbo_turtle

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    I am basing it on the last 2 outings of the Bucs play so far and it has not been all that good.

    This last Game the Bucs lost 14-3 to the Falcons and before that they lost to the Ravens in the loss of 27-0 so that is what I am basing the wins for the Saints on the 2 games that the Tampa Bay Bucs have had.
     
  19. Buttmunch

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    They're not beating the Niners either. Alex Smith is really coming into his own. It's amazing really, since everyone was dogging him really badly.
     
  20. Trumpet_Man

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2594571

    Updated: Sep. 19, 2006, 4:00 PM ET

    Returning to the dome, Saints a little wary of the hype

    Associated Press
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    NEW ORLEANS -- The game is so big, it'll require two
    stadiums.

    Two NFL commissioners will be there.

    Two internationally renowned rock bands will play in the
    Louisiana Superdome shortly before kickoff.

    And two 2-0 teams will take the field while nearly 70,000 fans
    purge a year of post-Katrina frustration with howls almost loud
    enough to blow the dome's new galvanized steel roof right off.

    Saints players and coaches are well aware of all this, and
    they're trying not to think about it too much.

    "The evening's only special if you win it," Saints coach Sean
    Payton said. "We're seeing a good team come in here in Atlanta.
    ... We're going to have to have a good week of practice, and all
    the other stuff is stuff that we can't control and we just want to
    make sure it doesn't become a distraction."

    Saints spokesman Greg Bensel said more than 500 credentials have
    been issued to media outlets from around the world -- from Sky
    Sports to Al-Jazeera -- and that ESPN is sending a crew of several
    hundred to build up it's coverage of the "Monday Night Football"
    telecast.

    Because the dome is sold out for the season, there's no place in
    the stands to set up an overflow press box as has been done in past
    Super Bowls, so a couple hundred media members will have to work
    out of the adjacent New Orleans Arena and watch the game on TV.

    Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue, who played a leading
    role in making this game happen when New Orleans' future in the NFL
    seemed in doubt after the storm, is expected to attend, along with
    his successor, Roger Goodell.

    U2 and Green Day will play during pregame ceremonies. Former
    President George H.W. Bush is slated for the coin flip, although he
    may not receive quite the welcome of another Bush -- the running
    back named Reggie, who'll be making his home debut in the
    refurbished dome.

    This is a tough ticket. On the Saints' Web site, season ticket
    holders who have decided to resell their tickets on a team-approved
    exchange program are asking $690 for upper deck seats, more for
    premium seats.

    "Could this game be any more hyped up or bigger than it already
    is?" Saints quarterback Drew Brees said. "We all know what it is,
    but the way I'm approaching this week is: It's a football game and
    we need to win it. That's it."

    While opening 2-0 on the road is always an accomplishment in the
    NFL -- and something the Saints have never done since being founded
    in 1967 -- the teams they beat this month are winless. Those games
    were played in pleasant late-summer weather in Cleveland and Green
    Bay and the results remained in doubt until past the two-minute
    warning.

    Atlanta is a regional rival that has long given the Saints fits.
    Many in New Orleans remember well that the Saints' worst loss ever,
    62-7 in 1973, came at home at the hands of the Falcons.

    And Atlanta appears to be the stronger of the two teams this
    year. In games against Carolina and Tampa Bay, the Falcons have yet
    to allow a touchdown while outscoring their opponents 34-9.

    With a strong offensive line and quarterback Michael Vick always
    a threat to run, Atlanta has rushed for 558 yards.

    "This is a respected team we're playing," said Saints receiver
    Joe Horn, long a crowd favorite in the Superdome both for his play
    on the field and his outgoing manner off it.

    Horn remembers well what the dome was like on its best days, and
    he anticipates a spine-tingling scene when the fans welcome back
    the team that wears their city's symbol, the fleur-de-lis, on its
    gold helmets.

    "Once I get in there, I'm sure there'll be some emotions
    flowing, but mentally you have to be prepared to play the football
    game," Horn said. "If the emotions can make you focus more, it
    will help you, but sometimes heartfelt emotions can keep you away
    from having your mental edge, sharpness. I hope the emotions that
    flow make us focus more on the game and the job at hand."

    Brees has never played in the Superdome. Still, he has immersed
    himself in the local culture since moving here this year, buying an
    historic house near Tulane University, dining at renowned
    restaurants and even taking a ghost tour in the French Quarter..............................click on linky for rest
     
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    That Niner game for us will be a little tougher than we first thought back in July/August.

    We'll still win, but it won't be a 20 to 30 point blowout like some people are expecting.

    I would say 10 to 14 points. :icon_mrgreen:
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2596431

    Have NFL and its players done enough to help rebuild New Orleans?


    Associated Press
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    FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- When Hurricane Katrina slammed into
    Louisiana, Warrick Dunn was so disturbed by the devastation in his
    home state that he wanted to do something extraordinary to help.

    So the Atlanta Falcons' notably philanthropic running back
    challenged his fellow NFL players to give $5,000 apiece -- a gesture
    that would have raised more than $8 million if everyone had chipped
    in.

    A year later, Dunn has been able to donate $381,000 to Habitat
    for Humanity in his hometown of Baton Rouge, a much-needed infusion
    of cash but far short of the lofty total he hoped to collect in
    those gut-wrenching days after the levees broke in New Orleans.

    Dunn insisted Wednesday that he's not disappointed by the
    response, even though it represents about 76 players making the
    full donation -- not even enough to fill two rosters in a 32-team
    league where the average salary was $1.4 million last season.

    "Even though I challenged guys (to donate $5,000), my challenge
    was more for guys to do something," he said. "If you're not going
    to give money, let's do something. A lot of teams did that. A lot
    of guys came together and bought supplies, donated things, flew
    down there."

    As a whole, the NFL's owners, players and fans have donated $22
    million to the recovery effort, and the league also committed $15
    million to help rebuild the Superdome. Those numbers pale in
    comparison to the average value of a franchise (Forbes puts it at
    $898 million), the salary cap for each team ($102.5 million) and
    the operating income for the league as a whole ($985.6 million in
    2005, according to Forbes).

    "Nothing is ever enough. If you add up the cost of the
    destruction, $22 million is peanuts," Dunn said. "The league has
    a stance and did what it felt like it needed to do. As a country,
    we have to go far and beyond sometimes. We have to go in our
    pockets and do a little bit extra. It's not just up to the league.
    Everybody needs to come together."..................................
     
  23. turbo_turtle

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    I am here to eat my healthy helping of Crow and I said in the link above that the Saints would not win their game with Atlanta at home but they did so I will eat my Crow and enjoy the helping of it so it is tasty and I will need to eat it maybe some more as the Saints season progresses.

    My first trout to myself:
    :trout:
     
  24. BFISA

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    Move over, Bro, and make some room...its fixinta get crowded!!:icon_mrgreen: :lol:
     
  25. turbo_turtle

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    Yep and I hope that table has enough room because the cook is serving it up heaping hot plates conveyor belt style.

    Yum Yum Crow tastes so good.:icon_mrgreen: :icon_toast: :lol:
     
  26. RMANCIL

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    Brees looked great and the Saints offense controlled the clock keeping the Falcons offense on the sideline.

    Brees hit on a ton of 3rd down plays. The Saints defense made Vick pass the ball and kept him from running it. Vick just isn't all of that when you take his wheels away.

    The best QB on the Falcons rides the pine.
     
  27. BFISA

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    Wonder why they didn't give Schaub garbage time??:icon_shrug: :icon_huh:
     
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    They don't want to start a controversy. If Matt comes in a leads them for a score or two. :no:
     
  29. Kitsune-udon

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    You guys shouldn't be eating crow. You need to be eating cooked Baltimore Raven! They're gonna get roasted this weekend!
     

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