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San Diego Chargers Roster Struggles!

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    The sound of thunder over the horizon does not herald sudden summer storms which are a rarity to southern California. It is the sound of another season of Charger football about to start.

    A season Charger fans can truly look forward to, most of the starting positions are set, more young talent is being brought in to fill in the depth in the roster. This is something no fan should overlook as Chargers General Manager AJ Smith has been able to procure 15 starting players since 2004, and continues to find diamonds in the rough in free agency while finding tomorrows stars via the draft.

    The Chargers are looking to head into a 2008 training camp that will prepare them for yet another championship run. They have already have two draft picks signed to four ear contracts, Running Back Marcs Thomas, and Tackle Corey Clark. This leaves just here picks to be signed prior to training camp.

    Training camp begins July 25, and run through August 4. The schedule has been published at Chargers.com, and is listed below:

    The Chargers are set at most starting positions, and the few that could see change before the opening of the season could be due to injuries. Even if those injuries were suffered by players during the 2007 season.

    While Chargers star Quarterback Philip Rivers, and Running Back LaDainian Tomlinson appear to be ready to play, premier Tight End Antonio Gates is still slowed by his toe injury. The Chargers appear to be willing to let Gates come along at his own pace, and rely upon the man mountain Brandon Manumaleuna, second year pro Scott Chandler, and undrafted free agent John Tereshinski to fill Gate’s shoes.

    Tereshinski is a player with a motor who could find a spot on the roster due mainly to Gate’s ailing toe. He is a player ho can block play special teams and lay a wicked hit on the opposing players:

    The Wide receiver position is one that is pretty set, but could see some shake up in camp if not before. Rumors abound as to the fate of Eric Parker. It is widely held that Chris Chambers, and Vincent Jackson make Parker expendable, and new sources are trying to guess which team Parker will be paying for, and few if any are betting on it being the Chargers.

    Another situation to be watched is that of Kassim Osgood who made his desire to line up more at wide receiver known in a very public manner this off season. It quickly grew into a feud with AJ Smith, and those feuds are not often won by special teams players, even a stand out such as Osgood.

    The Chargers made several moves so far in the off season, including the release of Marlon McCree, Lorenzo Neal, and Shane Olivea. They also informed Wide Receivers Coach James Lofton they were going in a different direction and did not tender an offer to Running Backs Coach Matt Simon.

    The direction the team took concerning the wide receivers coaching position was to bring in Charger Great Charlie Joiner. Joiner is the Chargers' all-time leading receiver. This will be Joiner's second stint as a Chargers' Wide Receiver coach, he also served in that role from 1987-91.

    Joiner played a total of 18 seasons in the AFL and NFL with the Houston Oilers (1969-72), Cincinnati Bengals (1972-75) and Chargers (1976-86). He was a fourth round draft pick of the Houston Oilers in 1969.

    I was surprised to find that he was rafted as a defensive back, not a wide receiver. However by the time he retired on Jan. 12, 1987, it was as the NFL’s all-time leading receiver with 750 career catches.

    He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1996. Joiner’s final career totals included 12,146 yards and 65 touch downs. At the time of his retirement, Joiner’s 239 career games played were the most-ever by an NFL wide receiver.

    Joiner played 11 seasons in San Diego (1976-86) and finished his career as the team’s all-time leader with 586 career catches. He was a three-time Pro Bowl choice, Joiner was inducted into the Chargers’ Hall of Fame in 1993. His 9,203 receiving yards ranked him second in team history behind Lance Alworth while his 47 touchdown catches ranked him third behind Alworth and Gary Garrison. He was selected as the team’s Most Inspirational Player seven times and he was honored by the City of San Diego on “Charlie Joiner Day” in 1984 and ’86.

    Joiner was not the only pickup the Chargers made in the off season. One pickup that AJ Smith made was to ensure the Chargers had quality depth at the center position, given that Nick Hardwick was coming off of a foot injury of his own. To that extent Smith brought in Jeremy Newberry to add veteran quality depth. Now with joining the Chargers Newberry will have played for all the California NFL teams, as he has had previous stints with the Raiders and 4’ers.

    The Chargers also picked up veteran offensive tackle L.J. Shelton, signing him to a two-year deal. They signed free agent wide receiver Marco Thomas, and brought in wide receiver/punt returner Mark Jones.

    One of the most shocking movements came in the front office though, as long time AJ Smith confidant Assistant General Manager/Player Personnel Director Buddy Nix announced his retirement. The move raised several questions amongst Charger fans, to which there have been little answers beyond speculation available.

    The Chargers hired former Saints and Dolphins General Manager Randy Mueller as Senior Executive; added title of Assistant General Manager to Executive V.P. of Football Operations Ed McGuire. They promoted Jimmy Raye to Director of Player Personnel while promoting John Spanos to Director of College Scouting. They continued their front office shake up by promoting Mike Biehl to Assistant Director of College Scouting; Tom McConnaghey, to national scout; and promoted Chris Hobbs to Executive Assistant - Player Personnel.

    In twenty days the Chargers are going to open training camp and all the players will begin to compete for the precious few roster spots, and if they cant get those, they will claw, kick and fight to get one of the precious few practice squad positions.

    Many players however can hear the dull scraping sound of the Turk as he sharpens his Falchion in preparation for making the cuts that will come in mid to late August. If this sound inspires them to strive harder, then this could be a good thing. One thing is certain, the 2008 training camp should bring some interesting roster struggles, and provide a much needed breath of football into the spirit of the famished Charger fans.

    Roster Struggles; receivers will be posted August 1st. The subsequent posts, Defensive backfield, Offensive backfield, line backers, and BEEF will follow after that.
     
  2. SanDiegoRon

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    in just 3 weeks... bolt ball...
     
  3. TheLash

    TheLash Well-Known Member

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    really enjoyable read Conc, but can I buy you a spell checker?
     
  4. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    No, suffer in silence.
     
  5. TheLash

    TheLash Well-Known Member

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    Bastard:lol:
     
  6. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    that TE from Wake Forrest can lay some wood on people, though personally I doubt he joins the team. I think the Chargers can suffice quite well with Chandler and Manumaleuna
     
  7. Buck Melanoma

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    Oh no you didant!!! :icon_rofl: But I'll contribute!!!! :lol:

    Good read, Conc. :tup:
     
  8. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I think you will see him make the roster, or t least the practice squad. He will be a safety plan, and a special teams player. If he does however, we can take that as a gauge of Gate's health.
     
  9. Boltjolt

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    Are those practice times listed the only ones that the public can attend?

    If so i think it sucks that they have been limiting them because i didnt come last year because i would of only been able to see two practices.
     
  10. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Unfortunately yes.

    http://www.chargers.com/news/events/event_20080610.htm
     
  11. Boltjolt

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    Thats blows!!

    Ive missed TC two years in a row. First one was due to having hernia surgery a week before and it was more in depth than i thought it would be...i was still going to go but couldnt.

    The schedule screwed me last year and probably will this year. I havent been to SD in over two years so i really want to go.
     
  12. Concudan

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    I feel ya bro. I am not sure if they are going to allow cameras in either.
     
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    For TC? Why the hell not?
     
  14. Concudan

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    They did not allow any in MC. I guess they worry their fans work for the Pats.:icon_shrug:
     
  15. Boltjolt

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    Well screw it then, ...thats too far to go for a burrito and two practices :lol:
     
  16. TheLash

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    how about a burrito, 2 practices and 3 fish tacos:lol:
     
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  17. MtlBoltsFan

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    Igor gonna get cut :yes:
     
  18. Buck Melanoma

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    Not very likely. :no:
     
  19. RM24

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    Man, I'm just JACKED about this season like you guys are. I really have a good feeling about this season. Which will end in Tampa, Feb 1st, 2009 with a victory. THIS season is what we've all been waiting for. I'm just tired of waiting and waiting and waiting.........:yawn:
     
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    Except for RB and O Line, there doesn't seem to be much room for Newbies even on the depth chart-except for injuries like you said. I expect the PS squad to have more beef on it than any other positions.
     
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  21. Shamrock

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    I put some notes in a thread a while back about the 2004 team vs the 2008 team. How many of the starters are changed in just four seasons? 2004 was the first year of SD getting good again, and it's amazing to see how many players AJ Smith has turned over in such a short time span.

    Red = Change with 2004 starter listed after dash
    Blue = Same player in '04 and '08

    WR Chambers - Caldwell (McCardell after trade/Caldwell injury)
    WR Jackson - Parker
    TE Gates
    LT McNeill - Oben
    LG Dielman - Fonoti
    C Hardwick
    RG Goff
    RT Clary - Olivea
    RB Tomlinson
    FB Pinnock (or HB Hester/Manu/Naanee) - Neal
    QB Rivers - Brees

    DE Olshansky
    DE Castillo - Cesaire
    NT Williams

    OLB Merriman - Leber
    OLB Phillips - Foley
    ILB Cooper - Godfrey
    ILB Wilhelm - Edwards
    CB Jammer
    CB Cromartie - Davis/Florence
    S Weddle - Wilson
    S Hart - Kiel

    That is 15 out of 22 starters changed since 2004. That's an amazing turnover for a team that has been over .500 each of those four seasons, and won the division for 3 of 4 years.

    Don't get too wrapped up in whether one player stays or goes. It's the continuous infusion of overall talent that is important.
     
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  22. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Excellent post Shammy, thanks! I think we all need to remember this motto:

    "IN AJ WE TRUST!"
     
  23. 17Rocks

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    In every case that has been an upgrade, in some cases a dramatic upgrade. :tup:
     
  24. Buck Melanoma

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    Nice post, Shammy. An amazing amount of talent has been brought into this team in the past 4 years. It's time to put to the ultimate test - winning a championship. There's no team more poised to win it all than our Chargers. Time's a'wastin'.
     

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