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SCOUT'S INSIDER: BOLTS VS RAIDERS

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Buttmunch, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. Buttmunch

    Buttmunch Well-Known Member

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    Rivers looks to build on his Week 5 performance
    By Scouts Inc


    Wednesday, October 10, 2007


    Why To Watch

    It is pretty much an open divisional race in the AFC West as all four teams have two wins, with only the Raiders, who had a bye this past weekend, with just two losses. San Diego appears to have found themselves after coming through with an impressive 44-3 win over the Denver Broncos at Invesco Field in Denver. The Chargers dominated the Broncos in pretty much every phase of the game, especially the ground game as they out-gained Denver 214 to 72 yards. Oakland, who is coming off an impressive win over the Dolphins in Week 4, 35-17, has had an extra week to prepare for and study the Chargers who are bringing in a new offense and a new defense under new coach Norv Turner. This promises to be a pretty high scoring affair in San Diego.


    When the Raiders have the ball

    Rushing: The Raiders find themselves in an unusual position in that they currently lead the NFL with their ground game. Averaging 194 yards a game they are gaining almost 30 more yards per game than their closest rival, the Pittsburgh Steelers. With LaMont Jordan at 424 yards and Justin Fargas at 261, they have found a formidable running combination that combines power with speed. Both running backs are averaging over five yards per carry with Jordan right at five and Fargas averaging 6.1 yards per carry. The unit that was considered a liability last year, the offensive line, has all of the sudden become a strong point.


    Offensive line coach, Tom Cable, who is only in his second year coaching in the NFL, has done a remarkable job of assembling a cohesive unit that is creating good run lanes and sustaining their blocks to allow Jordan and Fargas to get through the hole and into the second level.


    The Chargers own the 10th best defense when it comes to stopping the run and managed to hold the Broncos to just 72 yards on the ground this past weekend for an average of 3.6 yards per carry. With their 3-4 defense they have good size up front and a linebacking crew that can make plays all over the field. The bad news is that four of their top six tacklers are defensive backs which means that too many ball carriers are getting through to the second level of the defense.


    Passing: QB Daunte Culpepper stepped in to take over the offense in Week 4 and appears to have given the passing game a bit of a spark. While he is not the same QB that he was a few years ago in Minnesota, he at least gives them a calming influence that makes the players believe that they have a chance to win each and every game. As a team, the Raiders are ranked 29th with 154 yards per game through the air and have a quarterback rating of 81.3 which is 17th in the NFL. This is not the powerful downfield passing attack that we are used to seeing out of the Raiders, but with a strong running game they just need to have defenses respect the pass, not fear it. WR Jerry Porter still gives them a legitimate downfield threat, but they rely more on the short passing game to keep the chains moving and to take some pressure off their running game.


    San Diego, who led the league in QB sacks in 2006, has dropped to the middle of the pack with just 10 after five games. Their overall pass defense is 27th, and gives up almost 250 yards per game and are tied for ninth with five interceptions. The Chargers' outside linebackers Shaun Phillips and Shawne Merriman lead the team in sacks with 3.5 and 3.0 respectively, but they are not being sent on blitzes nearly as often as last year.


    When the Chargers have the ball

    Rushing: The Chargers still rely on all-everything RB LaDainian Tomlinson for their running attack and opponents have done a good job of focusing on him and slowing him down. After five games he has been held to 329 yards on 98 attempts for a relatively meager 3.4 yards per carry. As a team the Chargers are 17th in the NFL, averaging 110 yards per game, a large drop from the league's second-best average of 161 in 2006. There has been a lot of grumbling in the locker room about the lack of a ground game and Turner has come under a lot of pressure to get LT on track. While the Chargers were able to come up with 214 yards this past Sunday against the Denver Broncos, backup RB Michael Turner gained a majority of that, thanks in a large part to a 74-yard run in the fourth quarter.


    The Raiders own the 26th ranked run defense as they give up almost 130 yards per game. With massive run stoppers and first round draft picks Warren Sapp and Gerard Warren manning the middle of their four-man front they should be doing a better job of plugging up the middle. With their attacking style of defense, the Raiders appear to be leaving run lanes unaccounted for and need to do a better job of maintaining gap responsibility. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan loves to attack opposing offenses and is not afraid to use all of his personnel in an attempt to keep them fresh.




    Passing: QB Philip Rivers had, by far, his best game this past Sunday against the Denver Broncos, while completing 72 percent of his passes. Overall, he has an 85.8 QB rating, which puts him at 16th league wide. That is not a huge drop from last year's 92.0 rating, but last year he threw for 22 touchdowns and just nine interceptions. This year he has thrown for just seven touchdowns along with six interceptions. He is clearly not protecting the football as well. He appears to be holding on to the ball too long as he makes his reads and, until this past weekend, he has been forcing way too many throws. Rivers returned to his favorite target of last year, TE Antonio Gates, who can cause matchup problems with most linebackers as well as safeties. Gates responded with a seven catch, 113-yard performance last week. Expect the Chargers to look for Gates this weekend, because he is apt to be matched up with either SLB Sam Williams or one of Oakland's safeties, Michael Huff or Stuart Schweigert.


    Ryan is going to continue to try and apply pressure on the quarterback by sending every available rusher. He does not want to allow Rivers to be able to go through all of his reads before he has to get rid of the ball and wants to try and create turnovers by pressuring the QB.




    Special Teams

    Kicker Sebastian Janikowski and punter Shane Lechler have handled their respective chores effectively since they were both drafted by the Raiders in the 2000 draft. Lechler is averaging 49.3 yards per punt with a net of 44.1 while Janikowski has hit on five-of-nine field goal attempts. Janikowski has a huge leg and is capable of kicking field goals of well-over 50 yards as is evidenced by him being three-of-seven from over 50 yards last year.


    Chris Carr handles the KO returns for Oakland and is averaging 21.1 yards per return while Johnnie Lee Higgins handles the punt returns and is averaging 2.3 yards per return. San Diego has one of the most accurate field goal kickers in Nate Kaeding, who has hit on 6-of-7 attempts including his only one over 50 yards and punter Mike Scifres is averaging 44.9 yards per punt with a net of 36.3. A slight edge goes to the Chargers thanks to their return specialists.


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  2. Retired Catholic

    Retired Catholic BoltTalker

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    Just nut up and beat the bastards. They are not that good, yet. Screw these guys into the dirt. I don't care if its 3-0 or 60-0 with 2 seconds left in the fourth quarter. Throw for another touchdown. I cast aspersions in their general dyerection with my dying breath. I will go wee wee on their graves. Stuff 'em like cabbages, or if you don't like veggies, raviolis.

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  3. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    Think this is more of our D having opposing teams passing on us since we couldn't stop any pass for most of this season? :icon_huh:

    Plays vs SD this season:
    Pass 167 :yes:
    Run 107

    Research....research....freaking lost art for most fishwrap hacks.
     
  4. ntman68

    ntman68 Well-Known Member

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    Ya think?
     
  5. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    No.

    The defensive front seven is not getting heat on any QB so far. Not by a long shot.

    I never ever want to see our DBs leading the team in tackles and four out of six is unacceptable. The guys up front need to do their jobs.
     
  6. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    Yeah our Pass rush sucks and teams throw on us since they can't run very well and they all know our DBs are the weak link from last year.

    Let me help you out with some numbers.

    Passing Plays: 167 (61%)
    Running Plays: 107 (39%)

    Tackles:
    DBs: 112 (38%)
    Front7: 138 (47%)

    So it looks like the front seven are getting more total tackles/play even though there have been many more passing plays.
    Hell it was 44 pass and 9 runs vs GB! :icon_eek: Who the hell do you think is going to make those tackles? Sure as hell won't be any of the front 3 and not likely the LBs. Denver was 36 and 19.


    2006: Tackle Leaders:
    #2,5,7,9 were DBs
     
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  7. ntman68

    ntman68 Well-Known Member

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    I've always wondered why Igor isn't just a ridiculously dominant end. With his size and those guns, you would think he could just crush people into the ground.
     
  8. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Don't try and talk sense to Trumpy. You got to love him for his senseless ramblings... He is a great guy, but has the football knowledge of a tape worm.:lol:
     
  9. Trumpet_Man

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    The linebackers are responsible for coverage as well and Merriman has been dropped into coverages more so this year than last year.

    You forget LB's have a responsiblity in coverage as well and it is not solely on the DBs.
     
  10. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    If the majority of our tackles are coming from the secondary (4 out of 6 players), then Houston, we have a problem.

    Teams who have their FS leading the team in tackles should send up red flags as well.

    The WILB should be leading the team in tackles and if the next guy leading the team in tackles is a safety, wake up.
     
  11. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    So your say he's a BS artist or just doesn't have a clue like Lieasure? :icon_shrug:
     
  12. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    No... I am just busting chops.

    Trumpy is a good guy, just gets crazy sometimes.

    The other guy, I know not of...
     
  13. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=3058009

    Wednesday, October 10, 2007
    Raiders look to end another skid by finally winning AFC West game

    Associated Press

    ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders snapped their 11-game losing streak, finally won on the road after 12 straight losses and even have sole possession of first place in the AFC West for the first time in five years.

    There's still one more major task for the Raiders to cross off their list: win a division game for the first time in nearly three years.

    They get their chance this week when they travel to San Diego. Oakland has lost its last 15 games against AFC West foes, dating to a 25-24 victory in the snow in Denver on Nov. 28, 2004.

    "It's not even something you think about," linebacker Kirk Morrison said. "You just go out and try to get a win regardless of what happens. We don't think about streaks. People talked about the road streak a couple of weeks ago against Miami. We just go out and try to win a game and the streaks will fall if we execute each week."

    When the Raiders (2-2) beat Cleveland on Sept. 23 it was their first win since last Oct. 29 against Pittsburgh. The win at Miami the following week was Oakland's first on the road since Nov. 20, 2004, at Washington.

    A win at San Diego would boost Oakland over .500 this late in the season for the first time since 2002, when they went to the Super Bowl.

    The task for Oakland is ending its long skid in the division. It's been so long since the Raiders won a division game that their coach the last time they did it is the same coach they're going up against this week: San Diego's Norv Turner.

    Only 15 of the 53 players on Oakland's active roster were with the team when they won that game in Denver on Jerry Porter's winning catch in the final minutes.

    "It's something for you guys to write about or fans to talk about. But we're here to win games no matter who they're against," receiver Ronald Curry said. "It's a new season, and what happened last year is last year. Definitely what happened the last couple of years is over."

    The Chargers are looking for their eighth straight win in this rivalry, which would tie Kansas City's current streak for the longest ever against the Raiders. Oakland has a chance to end the Chiefs' streak the following week at home.

    San Diego has beaten Bill Callahan once, Turner four times and Art Shell twice in that streak. The common theme has been the Chargers' ability to dominate with the running game. With Marty Schottenheimer as coach, San Diego outgained Oakland 1,238-507 on the ground

    Much of that success has been led by LaDanian Tomlinson, who has rushed for 944 yards during the streak, scored nine touchdowns and thrown for two more.

    Tomlinson credits much of the success to the hatred Schottenheimer had of the Raiders from all those years coaching against them in the AFC West.

    "I think it was Marty," Tomlinson said. "I think Marty had a mind-set that he just didn't like the Raiders. He wanted to try to punish them. The common theme was Marty Schottenheimer."

    The Chargers haven't been running the ball nearly as well this season under Turner. Tomlinson is averaging just 3.4 yards per carry and has only 329 yards rushing after five games.

    "It doesn't matter what he's been doing," Morrison said. "We know what he's capable of. He can score at any time."

    The long losing streak has featured many close games and odd happenings. That was quite evident earlier this season when the Raiders prematurely celebrated the end of the skid in Denver.

    Sebastian Janikowski's apparent field goal in overtime was wiped out because Broncos coach Mike Shanahan called timeout just before the kick. Janikowski missed the attempt that counted and Denver responded with the winning score.

    Last year's game in San Diego still rankles the Raiders. With Oakland leading 14-7 with about 12 minutes left, the Chargers converted a fourth-and-2 from the Raiders 40 with a 13-yard pass to Vincent Jackson.

    Jackson rolled to the ground untouched, then stood up and spun the ball forward in celebration. Oakland's Fabian Washington jumped on the ball for what appeared to be a gift fumble.

    The referee originally signaled Oakland's possession and the Raiders' offense came on the field. But after the officials huddled, the play was eventually ruled an illegal forward pass and the Chargers were penalized 5 yards. They still gained enough for a first down and San Diego tied the game five plays later, then went on to win.

    "We didn't struggle last year. We got robbed last year," Porter said.
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  14. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    No shiit, man.

    Note to Jerry:
    You got robbed in New England when the ref's whipped out the "tuck rule"

    Last year... you just plain sucked. :lol:
     
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  15. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Those Faiders really think they deserved to get the ball when Vjack spun it on the ground!!!

    What a retarded way that would have been to win a game for them. And its even more retarded they're still upset about it.
    Its not even like they stopped Vjack and forced a fumble, Vjack just had a brain fart.
     
  16. LV Bolt Fan

    LV Bolt Fan Well-Known Member

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    Raider fans think they deserve everything in life. Like Welfare, Citizenship, Parole, Respect, a Job. They just don't want to EARN IT!

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  17. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Oh I think that's ALL they earn
     

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