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Source: Sproles signs 1-year tender

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Sydalish, Apr 2, 2010.

  1. Sydalish

    Sydalish Addicted to Sports

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    Source: Sproles signs 1-year tender

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5051234

    Chargers halfback Darren Sproles signed his one-year, $7.2813 million restricted free agent tender Friday, according to a source.

    Sproles was the Chargers franchise player last season but the uncapped year prevented him from being a free agent because he didn't have six years of experience. To prevent him from leaving, the Chargers designated him a restricted free agent. Any team that wanted to sign him would have had to surrender a first- and third-round pick.

    Sproles has averaged 4.5 yards a carry during his career. He's also one of the top return specialists in the NFL.

    John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
     
  2. szarmes

    szarmes I am the Walrus

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    I still think he will get traded
     
  3. DenverBolt67

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    He can't be traded until after he signs the tender anyways. So maybe this is a sign that it is only a matter of time, and a deal is just about done. I do think it eliminates the possibility of him signing long term, so there is no reason we should keep him this year, and let him walk for nothing in return.

    Trade him while we can and get what ever we can for him
     
  4. Boltergeist

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    I don't think we're trading him and I really don't think we should. He is a very important component to this team's 3rd down offense and is instant ST field position. Well worth the 7MM in an uncapped year where there is no cap impact. Next year would be a different story.

    Keep Sproles another year and re-evaluate. Draft a complimentary back (Ben Tate please)....Move on and sign PR's receiving corps.
     
  5. Buck Melanoma

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    Send him to the 'Skins or KC for their high second-rounder. :tup:

    If AJ pays him $7+ mil for 1 yr., then let's him walk for nothing, I'm gonna **** in his office flower pot. :icon_evil:

    And then I'm gonna dump it all in Trumpy's lap. :lol:
     
  6. wrbanwal

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    That's a lot of cheese.

    I'm glad we signed him.

    Does him making that much affect any trade possibilities? Will a trade partner have to take his salary as well?
     
  7. Sydalish

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    :icon_rofl: i heart you so much
     
  8. Sydalish

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    I have a feeling either they're close on a trade w/another team (who will subsequently sign him long-term vs. the 7mil) -OR- they're talking about a long-term deal here in SD and this is a step towards nailing down the details.
     
  9. Boltergeist

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    Hope it's the latter. I still think this team can push for the SB THIS year...letting Sproles go doesn't help that.....and in an uncapped year, we should be taking advantage of some flexibility to overspend in certain areas if/when we need to.
     
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    ESPN: Sproles signs tender...

    http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/5051234

     
  11. Trumpet_Man

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    We should get a compensation pick for Sproles. I would guess probably a 4th rounder. Those of you saying we get nothing have not been paying attention.

    Since there is no salary cap, why the hell anyone is bent over paying Sproles $7 million is beyond logic. Uhhh.... hello...there is no cap.

    Some of you need to shift mental gears here and go with the uncapped flow.

    Teams are restricted to paying 30% maximum increases in base salary but to my knowledge, there is nothing from using bonus money as a loophole.
     
  12. paddyirishman

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    Glad hes signed,hopefully they can sort something out long term.
     
  13. DenverBolt67

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    The uncapped year means squat since the Bolts are usually no where near the cap anyways. But they still have a budget, and paying Sproles this much money will effect their ability to resign McNeil, VJ, Floyd, and/or Gates. All of those 4 players are more important than Sproles, and paying him $7+ mil will effect the teams ability to sign them whether we like it or not
     
  14. DenverBolt67

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    Name a single comp pick we have received in the last 5 years that turned into anything? Until you can, please don't throw out "But we are getting a comp pick" for him.
     
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    What indication do we have that says he has lowered his expectations? His agent was demanding Micheal Turner type money, and Sproles doesn't deserve even half that. Unless his contract demands lower significantly, there is no way the Chargers will re-sign him longterm
     
  16. Trumpet_Man

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    It is better than fans saying we get nothing. That is not correct.

    Comp picks can be no higher than a bottom round 3rd so why should I look to find a comp pick who is worth crap in the last 5 years ? :icon_shrug: The draft is a crap shoot at best.

    I still trust this scouting staff to find us what we need versus the staffs we have had in the past.
     
  17. Boltergeist

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    Not true, there have been several years where we were right up against the cap...Noteably when we had both Brees (franchised) and Rivers (high rookie contract) on the roster at the same time with a number of other expensive contracts.

    Spanos is a multi billionaire...The team is profitable and is making money new stadium or not....In an uncapped year with the advantage of spending a little more on the front end, we should be able to lock in all of those players AND keep Sproles. Ideally, we will be able to work out a deal to keep Darren longer term because next year will be a different story.
     
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    We have had like 4 comp picks in the last few years, none of which are even on the team anymore.

    The point is, if a long term deal can't be made with Sproles by draft day, then we need to get a 2nd this year rather than a end of the 4th pick the year after next
     
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    This article is 4 years old but I bet the same pattern can be shown.

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/17486531//


    Tom Brady was a comp pick.

    Now I know you're gong to come back with "what have the Chargers done", but I'm just pointing out what I believe is a pattern,

    Comp Picks DO make a difference.
     
  20. DenverBolt67

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    Whether you or I want him to spend every single penny he has in the bank, facts are, he won't. And to think he will is just naive. Just like most of the league, the Chargers payroll will be lower than previous years, and Sproles $7mil will effect getting the other players re-signed
     
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    Stats are evil. :yes:

    The more picks you have - the better. Booyeah :tup:

    Compensation picks can not be traded or bundled as part of any trade is the only restriction that I know of.
     
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    The Chargers have been traditionally right under the spending cap limits.

    In other words, they spend the money.
     
  23. DenverBolt67

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    So.....You were able to find one in the last 10 years out of the 320 pick that have been drafted in the last 10 years? (32 per year).

    Fact is, relying on Comp picks is just ridiculous, and to even compare a 2010 2nd rounder to a 2012 4th-5th is very short sighted
     
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    Make it extra chunky too Buck...:icon_rofl:
     
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    who said anything about relying?

    I'm just arguing that comp picks can make a difference
     
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    Last year the cap was $128 mil and it was $116 in 08. The Chargers salary in 09 was under $100 mil according to USA Today and at $111 in 08. Which mean they were nearly $30mil under the cap last year, and $5 mil under the cap the year before. It was also $109 in 2007 while the Chargers team payroll was $102.
    2008/9- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4169590
    2007/8- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2689784

    So unless you want to argue that these numbers are not accurate, which may be true but they are the biggest named sources I could find, then the Chargers have been a total of $42mil under the cap over the last 3 years
     
  27. DenverBolt67

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    And I can win the lotto. Doesn't mean I should plan my future around it
     
  28. wrbanwal

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    You're starting to sound like an old poster here...

    B4L ?? Is that you??

    :flag:

    PS. Here's a few lotto winners over the last 5 years that were comp picks

    Madison Hedgecock
    Derek Anderson
    Maurice Clarett
    Antoine Bethea
    Marques Colston
    Anthony Waters
    Le'Ron McClain
    Legedu Naanee
     
  29. DenverBolt67

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    Some were complete luck. seriously, Colston was the 4th to last pick in the draft. Does that mean we should be excited about the possibilities of what we can get with pick #252? What about Hedgecock at #251? Or maybe Bathea at 206?

    Clarett, Waters, and Anderson are not good examples because they are all crap.

    I guess maybe we should all just be excited about the possibilities of what we can get with a pick at the end of the 7th round. I can't wait
     
  30. Trumpet_Man

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    Again - stats are evil.

    Consider the Redskins and their owner who over spends like a drunken sailor. What has that gotten them ? There are more examples of teams over spending and not doing ****.

    And then there are examples of cheap *** owners like Tom Benson of the Saints finally winning a Super Bowl.

    Your point omits the fact we made LT (by being a cheap team) the highest paid player as a RB and the same goes for our punter Sci-Fi when they inked their new deals back in the day.

    Is Spanos cheap ? :icon_shrug:

    I was there when the crowd threw **** at his box when he was introduced as the new owner of the team if that makes you feel better ?
     

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