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Summer two-a-days: AFC West

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Concudan, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    by Peter Schrager

    AFC West

    1. First and foremost, what the heck is going on in Denver these days?


    Sure seems like things have gone a bit bananas up in Colorado, right? The Josh McDaniels era hasn't exactly started off with a quiet run-of-the-mill offseason. What's going on in Denver reminds me of "The Office" when young Ryan Howard took over for Jan in corporate. New kid in town, new ballgame. The results? Well, we'll have to wait and see. At 32, McDaniels has come in and made an immediate impact. He's also made a few headlines along the way.

    The Jay Cutler fiasco was a disaster, and no, Denver is not — regardless of what Broncos fans and beat writers might tell you — better off for it. Some other unorthodox happenings? Well, the Broncos went out and signed former Cardinals running back J.J. Arrington to a four-year, $10 million deal back in March. Then they released him less than three months later, citing a failed physical and a balky right knee. On the move, McDaniels told reporters, "It just got to the point where we realized and he realized that it wasn't going to work out for him this year with the injury. He was great for us when he was here, had a great attitude and great approach." All 60 days?

    The latest noteworthy player personnel move? Boss Bailey, Champ's brother and a six-year veteran linebacker, was released a week ago. Coming off microfracture surgery, the move is understandable and you can't fault McDaniels if the guy's not healhty enough to go. But you can't help but think Bailey would have been a nice OLB piece for the Broncos 3-4 defense.

    Then there are the unhappy parties. First it was Cutler, who took a beating in the media for being a "prima donna" and overly sensitive. Now it's the Broncos No. 1 wideout, Brandon Marshall. Nicknamed "Beast" for his superhuman physical skills and the recipient of 100-plus catches the past two seasons, Marshall has demanded a trade. His reasons? Well, money, of course. Then there were the trust issues with the Broncos medical staff. Marshall, naturally, went to his blog with his complaints and thoughts. "The hardest thing was hearing Mr. B (Broncos owner Pat Bowlen) wish me luck in the future, but we both came to the conclusion that this is probably the best thing for me to grow on and off the field," Marshall wrote last week.

    Huh?

    Beneath all this are countless front-office departures this offseason that the media hasn't given nearly as much attention to: de facto general manager Jim Goodman, his son assistant GM Jeff Goodman, and scout Tyler Goodman were all shown the door. West Coast scout Bobby Beers is gone, too.

    The black clouds hovering over Denver this offseason are evident.

    But it's easy to take a glass half-empty approach. No one takes kindly to mass changes. Perhaps there are some positives in all this. After all, Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler's Broncos hadn't gone to the playoffs in three seasons. It's not like McDaniels is retooling and tinkering a Super Bowl champion team. No, this was a below-average squad the past few years. McDaniels was hired for a reason. Change was needed.

    Additions Correll Buckhalter, Lamont Jordan and Knowshon Moreno will all make immediate impacts on the offense. The defense adds veterans Brian Dawkins, Andra Davis, Renaldo Hill, Andre Goodman and Darrell Reid. Rookies Alphonso Smith and Robert Ayers should see action next season in the 3-4.

    When Ryan took over in "The Office," the young kid eventually buckled under the pressure and sent the company down the tubes.

    Broncos fans can only hope what happened in Scranton won't happen in Denver.

    2. Is Al Davis nuts for giving a CB franchise QB money?

    Okay, let's first go over just how much freaking money this is. Astronomical, really. Asomugha signed a 3-year deal for an unheard of $45.3 million in February. Close to $28 million of that is guaranteed. Asomugha's now the highest-paid defensive back in NFL history. By a landslide. Sure seems like a lot for a six-year veteran who's never played in a postseason game, has never lost less than 11 games in a season, and who is rarely among the league leaders in interceptions.

    The sick part? I think he's worth every penny.

    Asomugha's the best corner in the game. Hands down. The reason his interception numbers are so unimpressive (one INT in 2008) is because quarterbacks avoid him like the plague. DeAngelo Hall, Oakland's big free-agent pickup last offseason, got picked on mercilessly last year. He was eventually released by midseason. Opposing quarterbacks had no choice, though. They couldn't risk throwing the ball near Asomugha.

    If his football skills were the whole story, I might be skeptical of the money. But Asomugha's the rare player — the once in a generation guy — who transcends the sport. His philanthropy efforts and community presence, well documented this offseason in a Sports Illustrated profile, are beyond impressive. He takes Oakland area kids on college campus tours in cities all along the East Coast, sets up scholarship funds that pave ways for new opportunities, and has been an active partner and leading voice for the Clinton Global Initiative University. This past offseason, Asomugha appeared on a few ESPN pre-draft specials. He blew me away. Far more impressive, insightful and interesting than fellow panel members Marcellus Wiley and James Hasty. Asomugha made for Must-See TV.

    Raiders fans know what they have in Asomugha. The rest of the nation might not. He's certainly not a household name yet (frankly, his ain't the easiest name, am I right people?).

    This isn't the head-scratching Javon Walker deal of '08. This one is completely sensible. Asomugha is worth every cent of that $45.3 million.

    He just needs to break that damn six-win mark.

    3. What's LaDainian Tomlinson have left in the tank?

    When I penned my "Top 99 players of '09" piece two weeks ago, I got bombarded with all sorts of e-mails. Some were predictable. I was surprised, however, with the backlash I got for slotting Tomlinson in the top 30.

    "He's washed up!" wrote Jen Hamers of Silver Springs, Md.

    "Tomlinson? Really? He might not be a top-99 player this year, let alone top 30. Hell, I'd put Darren Sproles over him this year," wrote Jeff Jones of Manhattan, Kan. (Yes, I know Sproles went to Kansas State)

    I was blown away by all the "hate" around Tomlinson. As recent as last August, he was the top pick in every fantasy football draft in America and a preseason favorite for MVP. Now? To critics like Jen and Jeff, he's apparently just another 30-year-old running back with his best seasons in his rearview mirror.

    To be certain, 2008 marked career lows for Tomlinson in carries (292), rushing yards (1,110) and 100-yard rushing games (two). He was a non-factor for the second postseason campaign in a row.

    But Tomlinson was banged up last season. He's healthy now. After some minor deliberation, the Chargers restructured the former MVP's contract, exhibiting their faith in the highly paid back. From all accounts, Tomlinson's all healed up, recharged and playing with something you can't value — a desire to prove his doubters wrong.

    He will. Expect a big year out of Tomlinson and the Chargers.

    Regardless of where he's taken in your fantasy football draft this August.

    4. Will the Chiefs have something that at least almost resembles a defense this year?

    It sure was a sight for sore eyes, huh? The 2008 Chiefs had less quarterback sacks than any team in NFL history (since the league began calculating the statistic, at least). The Kansas City defense had just 10 sacks in 532 passing plays, or one every 53.2 plays. Ugh. Horrifying factoid, right there.

    They also gave up the third-most rushing yards per game, the second most total yards, and finished last in the league in third-down defense. Not fun.

    So there were changes. Lots of them. Herm Edwards got the boot. Clancy Pendergrast, formerly of the NFC champion Cardinals, replaced Gunther Cunningham as defensive coordinator. Gary Gibbs, a former defensive coordinator in New Orleans who worked with Pendergast in Dallas, is now coaching the linebackers. Player personnel-wise, the Chiefs made significant upgrades across the board. Kansas City spent its first three 2009 draft picks on defense and brought in noted veterans Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas. Travis Daniels joins the cornerback corps.

    Will the 2009 Chiefs defense be among the league's best? Probably not. Will they be one of the worst of all time? No.

    At least I don't think so.

    5. Jeff Garcia or JaMarcus Russell? Who's it going to be opening day vs. San Diego?

    Coach Tom Cable has gone to great lengths to reconfirm that there is not an open competition at quarterback in Oakland — it's Russell's job. But Garcia's never been one to just sit and quietly watch from the sidelines.

    Veteran safety Keith Davis shared his thoughts with Sirius Satellite Radio last week: "If I had to play right now, I'd take Jeff Garcia because I know what he's going to bring to the table and I've watched him bring it to the table. "A month from now, two months into the season, my answer may be different. But if I had to play right now, it would be Jeff Garcia. That's no knock against JaMarcus at all."

    Nope, not at all.

    My gut? Russell starts opening day vs. the Chargers on Sept. 14. Come Week 2, Sept. 20 at Kansas City?

    Well, that's another story.
     
  2. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I don't understand the hate people seem to have for LT.
     
  3. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I dont either. I guess they just like to see someone who does well fall to be just human... :icon_shrug:
     
  4. Cheapseats

    Cheapseats Loud, proud Charger fan

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    Why the hate?...probably a combination of the following:
    1) LT is not on their team
    2) He just turned 30, he must need a walker by now
    3) He has become "injury prone"
    4) They do not follow the team closely, or read the stats very well.

    These knotheads can just keep yacking, LT is close to 100% for the first time in a couple of seasons. As badly injured as he was during the 2008 season he still got in excess of 1,000 yards on the ground in what has become a pass-first offense.

    If LT gets a full season of work in 2009 I'm thinking he will get at least 1,750 yards from scrimmage (receptions included) in the regular season. If that is "washed up"...sign me up!

    Go Chargers!!!!
    :abq2::flag::abq2:
     
  5. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    :clap:
     
  6. Showmeyourbolt

    Showmeyourbolt Well-Known Member

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    Some of them will even bash LT incessantly, and yet promote and :kisskiss: Clinton Hart:icon_shrug:
     
  7. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    This should be a great year for our Bolt's, the AFCW is a shipwreck and ours for the taking.
     
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  8. Rainman

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    Not to even MENTION the hate for Philip! :icon_shrug:
     
  9. Buck Melanoma

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    :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl: :icon_rofl:

    Gee, that wouldn't be anyone that we know here, would it? :icon_shrug:

    I think LT has a stiff-arm or two left for the doubters.

    Thanks for posting, Conc.
     
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  10. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    some of the LT hate is that he is now injury prone, and has spent the last 2 years sitting on the bench watching us lose the last game of the post season .
     
  11. Buck Melanoma

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    Careful there .... you're dangerously close to being labeled a "fanboy" by those knotheads. :icon_tease:
     
  12. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Which in my mind does not excuse the hate at all. Gates has been inured far more often than LT, yet Gates never receives the hate and should not. Other players have sat on the Bench and watched those same loses. Where is the fan hate?

    Are people really trying to sell to me that other teams going into the playoffs are not trying to hit LT hard and get him out of the games? Really? They are, How many games exactly in LT's career has he missed? Lets discuss that and see if he is 'injury prone'...

    We have in our midst some football Mensas who have determined in all their shining wisdom that LT is a P U S S Y because he runs out of bounds, or because he cant cut on a severely injured knee. These are 'Charger fans', and while they have every right to post their opinion I will never agree with it.

    When dealing with people, for me, actions speak louder than words. The manner in which a person handles themselves and HAS handled themselves speaks volumes to me, not what they say now.

    LT's actions, his body of work has spoken very well for him. He has played for us with bad ribs, ever try breathing with a bad rib, let alone running though lines? LT has played injured. He is getting older, but he is still better than most of the young kids out there. While I do not think he will break Emmitts record, I think he will go down in the history books as one of the greatest running backs ever, and a shining example of what CHARGER FOOTBALL is all about. he is the Anti-Leaf...

    So if someone wants to hate that, hate away, it shows me they are just ball watchers.
     
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  13. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Dude, get the ranking right, he would just be a pop-pom waver. He hasnt attaind Fanboy status yet...

    Criminey!:icon_twisted:
     
  14. Buck Melanoma

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    Oh, so your the judge? :lol:

    I thought you had to be a gurl or one of the folks you mentioned in your previous post to be labeled something as insulting as pom-pom waver.

    Like maybe someone who's username begins with an "e". :icon_rofl:
     
  15. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    the question was asked about why the LT hate. And I tried to give one answer. Some people do not want to see someone sit on the sidelines and just sit there. If he was injured, take the Uniform off, and watch the rest of the game in street clothes.
     
  16. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    My only problem with LT has been his whining in the press. He's been gold for this club every bsince he arrived.
     
  17. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    I know what you were doing. It is all good, I am not replying to or about you, I am replying to the football Mensas who constantlt post taht he is a *****.

    About the uniform on the sideline though, I will reiterate the Gates statement. Why are those people not complaining when other players suit up while injured? What if they decided to put LT in for a few plays? You dont have that option if he is not suited up. You also change the D's whole approach to the game is LT is in steet clothes.

    The answer should be obvious, to prevent a limitation of options. That is why he suits up. people who dont want to see the same three seconds of LT on the bench played over and over and over... Go get a beer when they go to comercials.
     
  18. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    I have been waiting for way too many years now. All I want to say is that I root for a World Championship Team. I dont want to fight, I want to cheer. I have a very short fuse now, and I will except nothing more then perfection!
     
  19. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    That is fine, your choice. But no one demanding perfection will force it to be attained. It might be a recipe for more frunstration than would be attained without such a demand.

    If you or anyone is laying the blame on LT for not attaining the perfection the last two seasons, then I would humbly suggest you are laying the blame for the team on one person is not the logical thing to do.

    Just so you know... I am with you in the desire for that perfection...:tup:
     
  20. Enormo

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    Fear breeds hatred.
     
  21. Enormo

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    Holy bejesus! And if he DID do that he would have be crucified for taking off his team colors.

    Agenda over reality. Did you lose some big money on that game or something?
     
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    Well said, Conc.

    Like you said, LT hasn't even missed a regular season game due to injury. Shows you the heart this guy has, playing through pain, sometimes on teams that were well out of the playoff race.

    That said, I AM concerned about LT's age, and his propensity for slow starts. Even in his best season (2006), it took a full month for LT to get rolling. He needs to get out of the gate quickly this year.
     
  23. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Until you have really been injured, one can not experience what goes on through your mind and body. I'm not talking a paper cut or a few stitches, that's nothing. I'm talking broken and torn parts, it's a whole different ballgame.

    I could tell LT was very upset in the Pat's playoff game dude wanted to play and couldn't. So what's he supposed to do? stand around and freeze to make some fans happy? I call BS.
     
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  24. Buck Melanoma

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    Apparently so, for some of the magnificent football minds that Conc has mentioned - may they RIP at their other forums. :lol:

    Much of their opinion was based upon a snippet of video that the media deemed to play over & over. The same media that many of these same folks call BS on at the drop of a hat.

    I don't have a problem with differing opinions. It's fine to believe that LT is over-the-hill, runs out of bounds too often, says too much to the media, etc.

    Too call him a ***** tells me that you must know first-hand what one is. You spot it, you got it. And it's totally undeserved for an athlete who has given as much as he has to this team & city.

    Phuc the haters - you feeling me, *******s? :icon_twisted:
     
  25. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    LT aint no p^&&y, it's only his mouth that I have had a problem with. Just shut the hell up and move on.
     
  26. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    but not in spelling accept I suppose :icon_tease:

    btw, it's nothing less than perfection :icon_shrug:
     
  27. SDRaiderH8er

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    a question was asked, if they dont want an answer nor can they accept an answer, then dont ask the question.
     
  28. Retired Catholic

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    He doesn't stop being a member of the team if he is injured and he belongs on the sidelines in uniform unless he is IR'd. His presence is a morale booster for his team mates and a sign of solidarity. He is not a cheer leader but he is a presence on the sideline.
     
  29. SDRaiderH8er

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    so you are saying its okay to sit on the sideline bench, put a Jacket on, put the helmet on, bundle up and just sit there like a bump on a log.

    I have my 8 year olds up and cheering thier team mates on while the team is out playing, and they are not sitting on the bench when they are cheering.
     
  30. LV Bolt Fan

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    Big difference between million $ pro players that are injured and 8 yr old LL players that don't play in that inning. :yes:
     
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