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Super Melvin throws his weight around

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  1. Blue Bolt

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    Chargers rookie Melvin Ingram throws his weight around
    written by Lance Pugmire
    latimes.com

    Quentin Jammer is a 10-year NFL veteran, and the San Diego Chargers' most experienced former first-round pick, but he found himself transformed into nothing more than a common fan last week.

    The target of Jammer's interest during the team's exhibition opener against theGreen Bay Packers was the Chargers' newest first-round pick, linebacker Melvin Ingram.

    "Did I watch him?" Jammer responded to a question, nearly incredulous. "Everyone on our sideline was watching him."

    Ingram satisfied any doubters right away.

    In the first quarter, Ingram swarmed past a Green Bay tackle, pressuring Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers into a hurried throw that was intercepted by cornerback Antoine Cason. Ingram also had two tackles in the game.

    "This was my opportunity to play against higher-caliber guys with more strength and speed," Ingram said after his debut. "I was happy with how it went, because it didn't seem too difficult."

    Pressuring Rodgers into such a miscue is rare: The NFL most valuable player last season threw 45 touchdowns and six interceptions. Rodgers' comments after the game are what the Chargers hope to hear from opposing quarterbacks all season: "We screwed some plays up and turned the ball over."

    Ingram was brought to San Diego to cause such disarray.

    "That was just me doing what I can to help," Ingram said, in a heavy Southern accent. Before the draft last spring some NFL scouts said that Ingram's short, 301/2 inch arms would be a liability.

    "It's always something they find to nitpick you on, and it's always ridiculous in a case like this, because if you can play like this guy, who cares about the arms?" Jammer said.

    Ingram uses criticism as a form of inspiration. As he grew up in Rockingham, N.C., his parents instilled a strong work ethic in their son.

    Last season, Ingram helped lead South Carolina to its first 11-win season and a top-10 finish in the Associated Press poll. The 6-foot-2, 265-pound Ingram contributed 10 sacks, 15 tackles for loss and two interceptions for the Gamecocks, gaining first-team All-American recognition.

    Chargers personnel were quietly celebrating in April when Ingram dropped unexpectedly to the team, which selected him 18th overall in the NFL draft. "He's an exceptional player who can do a lot of things," Chargers Coach Norv Turner said. "I think he was the most complete linebacker in the draft."

    Last year, San Diego's defense ranked 16th in the league, giving up first-down conversions on 49% of third-down plays and giving up 23.6 points and 346.6 yards a game.

    After missing the playoffs the last two seasons, the Chargers are hopeful Ingram's pass rushing will substantially bolster a defense that will twice face Denver's Peyton Manning this season, plus road tests against New Orleans' Drew Brees and Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger.

    Turner said he projects Ingram as an impact player.

    Ingram "is going to be outstanding on third down," Turner said.

    Said Jammer: "In this game, you always need someone to get after the quarterback. I know that's why we targeted him, but I think he's been even better than what was expected.

    "You should see him at practice. He can straight bull-rush linemen or get around you with a serious spin move. He'll make a huge contribution. This guy is an absolute monster — big, strong and fast, and he has a motor on him beyond what you'd expect. Most guys who rush don't have all of those attributes."

    Against the Packers, Ingram also flashed his speed, bursting around a right tackle to force backup quarterback Graham Harrell to throw an incompletion. He also caused Harrell to flinch, leading to a sack by a Chargers linebacker on the opposing side.

    To bolster their defense, in the off-season the Chargers signed free-agent linebacker Jarret Johnson, who played nine seasons for the Baltimore Ravens. The Chargers are also crossing their fingers that another linebacker, former first-round pick Larry English, 26, finally blossoms into a key player.

    "When this defense has been at its best, we've had multiple players playing well at the outside linebacker position," Turner said. Ingram can be part of "the mix of the guys we have. He can learn from them."

    Said Ingram: "I just know that I need to keep getting better in every aspect of the game. You can never be too good."


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  2. Blue Bolt

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    Chargers Notebook: Melvin Ingram consistently in backfield
    By Dan McLellan | CBSSports.com
    August 15, 2012 11:04 pm ET

    The San Diego Chargers began Wednesday with a special-teams walk-through in the morning. Players wore shells for the evening's full practice, which lacked the contact of recent days.

    “We took the shoulder pads off,” coach Norv Turner said. “We had gone four straight days in pads. We're very physical. I thought our guys responded today with a very up-tempo speed practice. We worked on a lot of game situations, so tomorrow we will start looking at Dallas.”

    What stood out: OLB Melvin Ingram (round one, 18th overall pick) has frequently been in the face of QB Philip Rivers. Before Rivers could throw the ball, Ingram came up on his blind side and tapped Rivers on the shoulder as if to say, “Hello, I'm here.” Rivers ended the play by spiking the ball in disgust. :D

    RB Ronnie Brown had a heavy workload and will likely see significant playing time against the Cowboys on Saturday. Brown had the day off on Tuesday.

    P Mike Scifres boomed several punts. One traveled in excess of 70 yards and had a hang time of about five seconds.

    WR Vincent Brown, TE Antonio Gates, TE Ladarius Green and WR Robert Meachem all had long receptions.

    Position battles: SS Corey Lynch (free agent, Buccaneers) intercepted Rivers. Lynch has picked Rivers at least three times in camp. He is considered to be on the bubble but could play his way on to a roster. Lynch, however, is behind FSAtari Bigby (free agent, Seattle) and Brandon Taylor (round three, 73rd overall pick), and they are almost assured roster spots.

    C-G Rex Hadnot (free agent, Cardinals) played on the first-string at LG in the place of Tyronne Green (foot stepped on), who missed his second consecutive full practice.

    CB Greg Gatson and CB Arthur Hobbs made fine plays to earn praise from DB coach Ron Meeks. Neither is likely to make the 53-man roster but are potential practice squad candidates. Gatson has had an overall stronger camp than Hobbs.

    Injury updates: DT Garrett Brown (left foot in boot), DE Jacques Cesaire(unknown), DT Antonio Garay (worked on bike, left foot), WR Richard Goodman(unknown), RB Ryan Mathews (clavicle), TE Dante Rosario (unknown), WR Eddie Royal (leg) and G Johnnie Troutman (pectoral) worked out on the side and did not practice. Also did not practice: G-T Brandyn Dombrowski (foot, cyst), LTJared Gaither (back spasms), and LG Tyronne Green (foot).

    Rosario was a new addition to the non-participants list.

    Green and Gaither were both described as day-to-day by Turner. It's reasonable to expect Green will be back in a few days, but it could take Gaither a little longer. Gaither was present at the team's facility for the first time in over a week but gave no indication that he has made significant progress toward his return.

    Blacked out: Per NFL policy, Saturday night's game between the Chargers and the Cowboys will not be shown live in Southern California because not enough tickets have been sold.

    What's next: The Chargers will begin their preparations for the Cowboys with a walk-through Thursday morning followed by a full practice in the afternoon. All practices are now closed to the public.
     
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    I was in the middle of a 13 hr drive from Fort Collins to Whitefish, MT day 1 of the draft. Lucky enough to catch a Helena sports station on the way, just outside of Townsend. ******* couldn't believe that Ingram fell to us. Car in front of me must of thought I was nuts when that picked happened--I was swerving hands out the window yelling loud. Finally caught some luck in the draft.
     
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  4. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    We keep talking up Melvin's pass rushing, I was actually very impressed with his positioning in the run game as far setting the edge and shedding blocks to fill rnning lanes. Also saw him drop back a few times, he looked far more comfortable in a back pedal than Shawne Merriman ever did.

    I want to see him play against Doug Free and Ty Smith this week before I start losing my head about him, but I love everything I've seen and heard from this guy so far.
     
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    That he's in the backfield so much is great for our defense, but it makes me concerned about our offense. I'm wondering how bad our line is/will be if defenders are living in the backfield.
     
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    He lines up on Clary's side doesn't he? ;)
     
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    Just shows how little Kevin Acee knows. He keeps referring to Ingram as a "one-trick pony"........ does he even watch the guy play? :rolleyes:

    He's a lot more fluid in coverage than Merriman ever was, and he runs plays down. The guy has a great motor and constantly pursues the ball. I don't see anything about the guy that says he's just a pass rusher.
     
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    SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW! Ingram is a One Trick Pony! All he does is get in the backfield and disrupt things!
     
  9. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Is he already in the HOF, dude is damn great ain't he?
     
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    I was impressed by the backside pursuit on run plays. As soon as he diagnosed it was a run play, he broke off his attack at the QB and ran the runner down from behind. Made the tackle twice that way.
     
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    You must be seeing things....... Melvin is strictly a pass rusher. ;)
     
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    I think not reading the UT articles has actually spurred the growth of a few new brain cells. :geek:
     
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    I'll be back in the States for the beginning of the regular season. I can't wait to watch him play.
     
  14. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I think I said it before the draft, he's a rich mans Shaun Phillips. Hopefully with a higher ceiling.
     
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    But, but, but, what about his short arms??? lol just kidding
     
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    And a totally different body build.
     
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    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Dude, if he had longer arms he'd have sacked Aaron Rodgers on that one play! ;)
     
  18. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Doesn't matter, the skill set is the same.
     
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    Phillips has longer arms, but a skinny torso. I bet that Ingram is a better bull rusher.
     
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    Listen, I didnt say he got his arms all the way around the ball runner, just that he tackled them, might have just tripped him from behind T-Rex style...
     
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    He isn't all gangly with loose parts all over the place. Good tight compact stature and it all moves in the same direction with his first step.
     
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    Hopefully he has a huge impact on 3rd downs this year!
     
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    Thanks for that clip...reminded me of a couple things I'd forgotten about:

    A) The "hands team" and the fake punt...how awesome (and unlikely) is that?!?

    B) Melvin hardly looked overjoyed when his name was called.
    I prefer to think that it was less that he didn't want to go to the Chargers, than that he was still
    disappointed that he was still on the board at 18. I think he may play with a chip on his shoulder :)
    Especially against teams he thinks should've taken him earlier.
     
  24. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    I don't think I've ever seen Melvin Ingram smile, not in college, not since we drafted him.

    Melvin doesn't do joy! Melvin sacks quarterbacks!:cautious:
     
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    I remember thinking the same thing. If you watch the video of him receiving the call from the Chargers just previous to what was shown here, he or his family and friends, didn't look thrilled at all. Oh well... none of this will matter when this guy gets a dozen or so sacks (and numerous pressures) this year. :D
     
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    I'm with you on the "sacks quarterbacks" part...
    Ingram Loves To Smile.jpg
     
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    No doubt there must have been a part of him that was disappointed, even if only a bit. He probably expected to go a lot earlier than he did, and a part of him would undoubtedly be mad about that, from the standpoint of both pride and money.

    That being said, on reflection you would feel this is a good place for him to be. Likelihood of a starting spot or at least a solid contributing spot is strong, there are some solid veterans around to learn from, we have some nice pieces on our D in Weddle and Liuget, and SD is a nice place to live in comparison to some other teams. Being a country boy, I'm sure he'd hate living in the snow.
     
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    Absolutely. In a sense, our good fortune (the "steal" of the draft?) comes at the expense of his wallet & pride.
    Though probably not as much as it would've before they reigned in rookie contracts.

    That said, yes, in the long run, I think this will be a good place for him: Charger fans are starved
    for a talented pass rusher, and have already embraced him warmly. And if things go according to plan,
    his next contract will set him up for life.

    Lastly, I loved that he said the first game wasn't all that hard. It didn't come off as boasting...
    (well, almost) ;), but just as an auspicious start to what could be a very special career.


    p.s.: Just got around to listening to the audio on the preseason Packer game.
    Gruden: "They call this kid 'Special Melvin' for a reason!" :eek:
     
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    I think he's just taking to the 3-4 system, it means he can play standing up and go full throttle without bouncing all over the place. But one game against a back up tackle (which is what Packers sent out there) doesn't make him DROY. I don't know who he'll be matched up with this time (maybe Smith?) but we will see. I'm excited from what little I've seen
     
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    One game doesn't make him DROY, but Buck's guarantee does. ;)
     
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