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Surprise: Kiel has gambling problems too

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Thread_Killer, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Thread_Killer

    Thread_Killer Well-Known Member

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    WFT is up with this guy? AJ is pissed, and rightly so.


    Frequent gambling losses at area casinos apparently led Chargers safety Terrence Kiel to seek other means of income, including the shipping of codeine-based cough syrup that got him arrested last year, law enforcement authorities said.



    Officials were told in their investigation that gambling is “exactly what caused the problem, that he was in over his head because he gambles too much,” San Diego Deputy District Attorney Damon Mosler said.

    Kiel, 26, is due in court today for a trial readiness hearing on five felony charges related to the cough syrup matter. Kiel's attorney, Bob Grimes, said he hoped to reach a deal with prosecutors and the judge, and that it could include Kiel's addressing of the gambling issue.

    “The issue of gambling may be addressed,” Grimes said. “But we don't know for sure. That's one of the things that could be part of the deal or it could not be.”

    Law enforcement sources said gambling was suspected because selling codeine-based cough syrup isn't very lucrative and that records show Kiel had dozens of cash transactions of at least $10,000 each at area casinos.

    Grimes declined to address the specifics of the gambling issue.

    Kiel also has been under investigation by Immigration and Customs Enforcement for transactions involving counterfeit Nike shoes from China. Grimes said he didn't expect charges in that case.

    Said General Manager A.J. Smith: “We are very much aware of Terrence's personal and legal situation. We think it's best he addresses them, not us.”

    While Kiel has one year remaining on his contract, it appears unlikely he will return to the Chargers in 2007.

    Smith would not address whether Kiel would be a Charger beyond this month, but he said recently in response to a question about Kiel's status with the team: “We've had a lot of problems this year, and we'll clean up a little bit of our mess.

    Gambling issues with players long have been a concern for the NFL, which considers them a threat to its security and integrity.

    Kiel's salary was $460,000 last year, his fourth with the Chargers. He signed a six-year, $3.71 million contract as a rookie, which included a $1.25 million signing bonus.

    Mosler said prosecutors and the judge could ask Kiel to do community service as part of any deal that is reached. Such community service could include speaking on the dangers of drugs or gambling.

    “The idea is not to see him again,” Mosler said.

    Records show Kiel has struggled with financial problems in the past year. On Sept. 7, a notice of default was filed by a loan corporation against Kiel, seeking payment of $16,610 from a $591,634 mortgage. The property no longer is being foreclosed. In 2005, Kiel obtained a $50,000 home equity line of credit. When $49,438 became due, Kiel “refused to pay,” according to the lender. The case was settled in April.

    Prosecutors allege Kiel was illegally obtaining codeine-based cough syrup from a friend, Hope Devina Vines, who worked at a San Diego pharmacy and was stealing it from her employer. Vines, a licensed pharmacy technician at Sharp Rees-Stealy in San Diego, has been arrested on felony charges of theft and possession of a controlled substance in connection with the case. Kiel and Vines have pleaded not guilty and both are expected in court today.

    Kiel was arrested in September after Drug Enforcement Administration agents intercepted two express mail packages containing 18 pint bottles full of the drug. Authorities said Kiel admitted to shipping the cough syrup to his native Texas, where it can sell for up to $325 on the street and where it is mixed with soft drinks.



    Here's the link to read the entire article:

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070207/news_1s7kiel.html
     
  2. AnteaterCharger

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    you and your gambling problem kiel are out of San Diego
     
  3. KimPossible

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    He doesn't deserve to. Get rid of him. If he gets convicted on the felony charges he won't have to worry about which team he'll end up on...he may end up living in a jail cell for a while.
     
  4. HollywoodLeo

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  5. foober

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    Gambling is as bad as taking bad drugs. It will wipe you out monetarily and lead to worse things.

    Its a good lesson for any one out there that likes to gamble. Don't do it. It will eventually wipe you out.
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  6. foober

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    I would guess finding a good saftey is priority number #1 now. :yes:

    I'm praying the find a very good one. It sure would help.
     
  7. Thread_Killer

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    Hey Foober, feel free to check out our LLV threads during the NCAA basketball tournament. :yes:
     
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  8. Electric Chair

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    Foober, some people can gamble with no repercussions. Only a small percentage of people get addicted. Blanket statements are for the uninformed.
     
  9. P88F

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    that foos a baller! resign him AJ
     
  10. foober

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    I know some of you like to gamble. If you can handle it fine. But i've known folks that couldn't handle it and it ruined their lives.

    The problem with gambling is it can get out of hand and people tend to not pay debts and fall farther behind the 8 ball of payments due. And it gets worse and worse. Just not a good thing.
     
  11. foober

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    I know. I've been following you folks" leisure" gambling threads all season. Gambling is fun. But it can get out of hand if your not careful. JUst my opinion.

    Your not going to believe this. But right now on the radio they're talking about the same thing. For some people it is a problem. Some can handle it.
     
  12. in_a_days

    in_a_days dgaf

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    Get this guy outta here ASAP! Kiel is clearly a little short in the common sense department. Not because it's come out that he has a gambling problem, but rather, because of the pattern of poor decision making. Make an example of him and get this bad influence out of our locker room.
     
  13. Thread_Killer

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    Exactly. And in hindsight, there may have been more to his shooting in Houston. I always thought it was fishy how somebody would get shot over the crappy car he was driving at the time, in broad daylight outside of a shopping mall.
     
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    Oh. I didn't know that. :unsure:


    I apologize for the unkind things I said about you in LLV Weeks 7, 9, and 13.


    :icon_rofl:
     
  15. foober

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    We've been talking about your for years.:icon_rofl:

    Thankgod your not the type to hold a grudge. Har,har. It was so long ago that I pizzed you off that I can't even remember why your still mad at me.
     
  16. Shamrock

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    What are the odds that you never talked bad about foobs in an even week?
     
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    NFL | Sports books in Nevada near record for Super Bowl XLI
    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:53:43 -0800

    The Associated Press reports Nevada's legal sports books profited off of Super Bowl XLI as gamblers wagered a near-record $93.1 million. The state's Gaming Control Board showed Nevada's 176 licensed books won $12.9 million, a 13.9 percent win percentage. The betting handle was just under the record $94.5 million set in 2006. The books won $8.8 million for a 9.3 percent winning percentage last year.
     
  18. Ride The Lightning

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    Dude is about to have an Unemployment Problem pretty soon.

    What a tard.
     
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    Kiel pleads Guilty

    Terrance Kiel, a Chargers safety, pleaded guilty Wednesday morning to a felony and a misdemeanor charge and was ordered to perfom 100 hours of community service in which he is to speak about the dangers of drugs and gambling.

    He was arrested in September by Drug Enforcement Administration agents who said they had intercepted 18 one-pint bottles of a codeine-based cough syrup he had shipped to Texas, where he is from and where the drug can sell for up to $325 on the street.

    The 26-year-old Kiel's felony conviction will be dismissed if he performs the volunteer work by his Aug. 7 sentencing date.
     
  20. Boltdiehard

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    Community service for a felony?
     
  21. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I guess kiel was spared the ride out of town on the federal prison bus, but it sure sounds like he worked himself out of a job to me.

    I never bought the random shooting in Texas story either, I mean hell it's Texas, they just don't go around shooting innocent people down there any more.:bolt2:
     
  22. Ride The Lightning

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    Community service?!?1

    What a joke. He should be going to jail.
     
  23. Thumper

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    The key to gambling and even to other vices is moderation. If you can't keep it in moderation, don't do it.
     
  24. KimPossible

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    I think so too...his codeine was headed to the street to be purchased and consumed by unthinking immature kids...and too much codeine in any form can kill by stopping breathing...he's just a drug dealer in my book...for a few bucks he'll take the chance of some naive 15 year old accidently overdosing on codeine-laced Pepsi. I hope he never wears a Charger uniform again. He got off easy.
     
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  25. foober

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    Seems like a light sentence. I'm guessing but maybe he wasn't all that involved with the cough syrp thing. BUt maybe was told to just send the stuff. Which is still part of the crime.

    I wonder if the gambling thing had something to do with the cough syrp thing. LIke some gambling ring told him he wouldn't have to pay his debt if he did a little favor for them.
     
  26. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    How about say sex, why moderate:icon_tease: :icon_shrug: :icon_rofl: :abq2: :abq1: :bolt2:
     
  27. Ride The Lightning

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    AJ needs to make an example of Kiel.

    Cut his *** and let the team know that that type of behavior will not be tolerated.
     
  28. foober

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    Its just a warning on my part for folks to be careful. I've seen folks loose everything to gambling and its not pretty. But it is fun if you can handle it. I just worry about folks cause some think they can handle it but it messes them up.
     

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