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Talking Lions - The Edge

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Shamrock, Dec 12, 2007.

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Which team has the edge because of the one-gap 3-4 ?

Poll closed Dec 16, 2007.
  1. Lions - They played Wade's team this past week.

    6 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. Chargers - They have the tape of seeing how the Lions attacked the one-gap 3-4.

    20 vote(s)
    76.9%
  1. Shamrock

    Shamrock Well-Known Member

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    Lions have lost FIVE games in a row.

    The Chargers have won THREE games in a row, and SEVEN of their last NINE games.

    The Chargers have the FOURTH most sacks in the NFL.

    The Lions have given up the MOST sacks in the NFL this year.

    The Chargers lead the NFL in interceptions.

    The Lions have given up the THIRD most points in the NFL.

    The Lions are missing WR Roy Williams. The last time Eric Weddle faced Calvin Johnson, Weddle came out on top.

    The Lions are the THIRD worst rushing team in the NFL.

    The Lions are coming off an emotional HOME loss.

    The Chargers are coming off an emotional ROAD win.

    The Chargers are 5-1 at home.

    The Lions are 2-4 on the road.
     
  2. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    The Chargers have the edge because I will be in the stands.
     
  3. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Cool. See ya @ the tailgater?
     
  4. sickswonnyne

    sickswonnyne Well-Known Member

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    They may have seen a 3-4, but not one with Jamal...

    He's playing rite?
     
  5. Shamrock

    Shamrock Well-Known Member

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    This is getting too good .... the Lions weaknesses all seem to play right to the Chargers strengths.

    Kickoff lapses vex Lions special teams: Cautious approach gives up big returns Detroit Free Press


    HEAVY BURDEN: Defensive line continues to struggle, with hefty Rogers at forefront - Detroit Free Press

    Teams with good DL's give us trouble. The Lions are going to get steamrolled by our running game, and they don't have the quality manpower to provide a consistent pass rush.

    The Chargers are going to blow out the Lions.
     
  6. BFISA

    BFISA Well-Known Member

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    Fuq abuncha polls :icon_evil:

    :bolt: Go Chargers!! :bolt:
     
  7. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Trap game. :yes:
     
  8. wrbanwal

    wrbanwal Well-Known Member

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    maybe, maybe not.

    We took a huge step as a team last week. We need to keep the momentum going into the playoffs

    The Lions are a beatin team right now. Gotta kick them while they're down


    :tup::tup::tup:
     
  9. TBF

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    I have no idea which Charger team will show up...I know I hope we have the edge, but if I'm being honest with myself, I am worried about this game. It will be another physical game. I hope we can instill our will on them, but after watching them on NFLN last night, I saw them run the ball well... Over the past 13 games, I have seen teams run well against our "you can't run" defense.

    One question I have is....How come teams don't stay with the run against us? Most teams find early success running the ball and for some reason, they stop running. We have not been blowing anyone out????

    Minnesota stuck w/the run and shoved that game straight up our asses. I am very surprised most teams don't come out and run, run and run at us all game long.
     
  10. SanDiegoRon

    SanDiegoRon BoltTalker

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    beat me to it... :lol:

    cheers or jeers... the FANS need to suck it up...:tup:

    and Raging Waters needs to get his fanny on the field... :icon_evil:
     
  11. wrbanwal

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    PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE!!!


    I'm in the Great Lake State! I'm living the Detroit Lion's season.

    FEAR NOT MY FELLOW BOLTHEADS!!!


    The Lions are beaten battered team with no life.


    as long as we come out with the same intensity and drive we had last week we will when the AFC West this week!!!


    :tup::tup::tup:
     
  12. boltssbbound

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    Minnesota was an abberation. Many teams have "stuck with the run" against us since the Minnesota game, and none has been very successful. Here's the opponents rushing numbers since the Minny game:

    Indy
    26 rushes
    75 yards
    2.9 Avg

    J'ville
    37 rushes
    122 yards
    3.3 avg

    Baltimore
    21 rushes
    58 yards
    2.8 avg

    KC
    24 rushes
    88 yards
    3.7 avg

    TN
    37 rushes
    131 yards
    3.5 yard average

    To sum up, over the last 5 games (Since Minny), the Bolts have:

    1. Faced an average of 29 rushes per game. For the season, only 6 teams have face an average of more than 29 rushes per game

    2. Allowed 94.5 yards per game. For the season, only 5 teams have allowed less than 94.5 YPG.

    3. Allowed 3.26 yards per carry. For the season, only two teams have allowed fewer than 3.26 yards per carry.

    To sum up further, you are wrong on all counts. The Chargers have faced a steady stream of teams committed to the run, and they have shut them down.

    The Minnesota game was an enigma. It wasn't even the whole game. It was the second half. For a half, our run defense was terrible. Since then, it's been stellar.
     
  13. HollywoodLeo

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    :yes:
     
  14. HollywoodLeo

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    easy to call it that simply because all the signs point to an "obvious" win for us.

    You loose your nostradomous powers if you just call every "obvious" win a trap game. :no:
     
  15. Retired Catholic

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    We will slap the Lions around. Our offense is healthy, and where we have injured players on defense we have adequate subs to get us what we need against Detroit. Merriman and Jamal will be back in shape for the playoffs and we would have been in really bad shape had any injuries been season ending, but as a replacement crew for a game against Detroit and more than likely against Denver, we are not in bad shape on either side of the ball. I don't know what the final spread will be, but it should be more than 9 points.
     
  16. boltssbbound

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    I definitely could see this as a trap game, and not just because it's an obvious win. The Lions let one slip away last week and they are pissed. They had Dallas on the ropes and were unable to close the deal. The Bolts played a physically demanding game, and are really banged up. Our last two games are against division opponents, and if Denver wins Thursday, the Lions game does not mean much as far as winning the division because it is a non-conference game.

    The other reason this is a trap game is injuries. Lo is out. Merriman is out. Jamal is hobbled. Rivers is hobbled. Gates is banged up. This will not be a gimme.

    On paper, even with injuries, we should throttle Detroit. But each game in the NFL is its own entity.
     
  17. Boltdiehard

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    Ain't happening Tony. :no: The boys may be bruised but again I think they understand what's at stake and will come out and knock Kevin Jones and John Kitna in the mouth. :yes:

    The nasty is back my man and the backups wanna eat too. :bolt:

    Go Chargers and Go Texans!!! I would love to see Houston ram the big one up Denvers ***. :abq2:
     
  18. HollywoodLeo

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    I didn't say it wasn't possible, but it seems kinda silly to label every "obvious" trap game one.
     
  19. HollywoodLeo

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    besides, I'd be but hurt if the Chargers lose this one because it's the only game I'll be able to attend this year.

    And now if it happens I blame trumpy :yes:
     
  20. Shamrock

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    I disagree.


    The Lions are a finesse offense with a soft defense. Nothing about them suggests this will be a physical game.
     
  21. sdbound

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    I'm looking forward to an OL show, the Lions DL is falling apart.

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/NFL+Features/2007/wellner121207.htm

    Just for shits and giggles here is the brilliant Roy Williams.

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071212/SPORTS01/312120007/1048/SPORTS

    That's the spirit Roy!
     
  22. Shamrock

    Shamrock Well-Known Member

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    Classic .....

    Roy Williams really has his priorities in line ......
     
  23. BOLTS4LIFE

    BOLTS4LIFE Banned Banned

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    If we were playing in the Silver Dome, I'd be concerned.
     
  24. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I like the Lions and they do have a very high powered offense even without Roy Williams especially through the air but still, nah. As long as the Chargers don't completely fall asleep during team meetings they'll be fine
     
  25. Showmeyourbolt

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    A couple of thoughts I was thinking as the Lions come into town. First, I was worried about Shaun Rogers. Monster defensive tackles have given us lots of trouble this year, see the Bears, Vikings, and Titans for proof. Luckily, Shaun seems to have given up on this year, so hopefully we won't be getting his best effort. I also like the fact that they are going on the road, where they have struggled, after a gut wrenching loss. If the Chargers can get on them early, we should be able to put them away.

    They do have trouble protecting Kitna, so we must get pressure on him before he has time to attack our weaknesses in the middle of the field. Our secondary CAN be exploited over the middle due to our safeties struggles in zone coverage. We need to attack Kitna, and keep their offense from getting a rhythm.

    When our offense is on the field, I expect us to be able to run the ball effectively. They run that Tampa 2 defense, so they are quick to attack runs to the outside, however they might be prone to power runs off tackle and guard. The middle of the field and underneath routes should be open against that Tampa 2 zone.

    Mainly, get a lead early and take any hope left away from the Lions. DO NOT let them stay in this game, that is a recipe for disaster.
     
  26. Shamrock

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    Those are the inherent weaknesses of the Tampa-2.

    Top notch post !!!

    :tup:
     
  27. Shamrock

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    Falling stock - Rick Gosselin - Dallas Morning News

    Gates skilled in football, too - Detroit News

    Chargers quarterback Rivers misses practice - Detroit Free Press

    Rivers' availability in doubt for battered Chargers - NC Times

    Three keys to Lions vs. Chargers - MichiganLive.com

    Detroit Lions face Chargers Sunday - Windsor (Canada) Star
     
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    yikes, its starting to look like a M A S H unit out there.

    who the heck is Jyles Tucker???

    dude must have been flying under the radar to get a start in place of SM.

    :icon_huh:
     
  30. wrbanwal

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    edit: my bad. I mis-read that. Harris will start and Tucker will sub
     

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