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Talks will begin soon on new deal for Rivers

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Jan 20, 2009.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    Tuesday, January 20, 2009

    MOBILE, Ala. – As the LaDainian Tomlinson situation percolates, another key component to the Chargers' offseason and salary cap machinations is about to commence.

    General Manager A.J. Smith confirmed Tuesday that the team soon will begin negotiations with quarterback Philip Rivers on a long-term contract.

    “You offer a contract and hope for the best,” Smith said while watching a Senior Bowl practice. “We'll have a contract (offer) and hope it's successful. If not, we have the franchise (tag).”

    This is not a surprise, but it is certainly significant.

    The roots of Tomlinson's possible departure are based in the large chunk of salary cap he would currently take up, as the team has several key players whose contracts expire in the next two years.

    “We have a lot we need to do,” Smith said.

    Chief among those tasks is signing the quarterback who this season became the center of the offense and next season will play the final year of his current contract.

    Rivers has for a couple of years been lauded as a leader and emerging star. In 2008, he grew into his potential on the field, throwing for 4,009 yards and a team-record 34 touchdowns. His 105.5 passer rating was also a team record.

    The Chargers are 33-15 and have gone to the playoffs all three seasons with Rivers as the starting quarterback. Rivers' passer rating and touchdown-to-interception ratio are better than those of Tom Brady, John Elway, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana or Steve Young in their first 48 NFL starts.

    What matters more in regard to Rivers' new contract is how his agent and the team believe he stacks up to current quarterbacks, namely Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning.

    Those two QBs, who were drafted the same year as Rivers, have won NFL titles. Manning was MVP of last year's Super Bowl.

    Roethlisberger last March signed an eight-year, $102 million contract that guaranteed him $36 million. Manning, whose contract also expires after '09, is expected to begin working on a new deal with the Giants soon.

    While Rivers' passing statistics are superior to Roethlisberger and Manning, several league sources – agents and those in management – said Tuesday they expected Manning's deal to top Roethlisberger's and Rivers to fall behind Roethlisberger. The chief reason for that, according to one source, is that “those guys have won Super Bowls.”

    The difference will be negligible.

    Should the sides not agree, the Chargers would almost certainly use the franchise tag on Rivers. For a quarterback in 2010, that is expected to be around $17 million for one season.

    For Rivers, that would be a lot of money for one season but only about half what he could expect in guaranteed money on a long-term deal.

    One reason the Chargers would like to get Rivers done and avoid having to use the franchise tag – besides the fact $17 million is a large salary cap hit – is that they might want to use the franchise tag on Shawne Merriman in 2010.

    Said Smith: “There are a lot of things to work out.”

    NUNNELY GONE, CHARGERS HIRE TWO

    Defensive line coach Wayne Nunnely, tied as the second-longest tenured assistant in the NFL, has left the Chargers after 12 seasons and taken the same position with the Denver Broncos.

    “It's one of those deals where I felt it was time to have a change,” said Nunnely, who was offered a new contract by the Chargers. “An opportunity came up, and I thought it would be good.”

    Don Johnson will replace Nunnely, and the team also finalized the hiring of secondary coach Steve Wilks.

    Both men worked under Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera when he was the Bears' coordinator.

    Wilks was fired by the Bears this month, and Johnson was let go by the Raiders this month.

    Head coach Norv Turner is interviewing candidates for tight ends coach and another offensive line coach, as well as a quality control assistant, while at the Senior Bowl and expects to make those hires this week.

    http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jan/20/chargers-rivers-contract-talks/?chargers
     
  2. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    Rivers deserves every penny he gets.

    Pay the man, start building the team around him.
     
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  3. Showmeyourbolt

    Showmeyourbolt Well-Known Member

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    lol
     
  4. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    get it done AJ
     
  5. boltmanbz

    boltmanbz Well-Known Member

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    the next 100 million dollar man!
     
  6. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It would be nice to get Philip wrapped up for the next 5-6 years.:bolt:
     
  7. SDRaiderH8er

    SDRaiderH8er Well-Known Member

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    2011 is coming.


    Will there be a lockout?

    Will that lockout change how people are paid or just Rookies?
     
  8. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Rivers was just getting mad love on Sirius from Tex Schramm and Solomon Wilcots.
     
  9. boltmanbz

    boltmanbz Well-Known Member

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    listening to them right now, they love him, talking about his Senior Bowl and all his 5 time mvp bowl games and his 33-15 record in the NFL and every year as a starter he has won the AFC West, giving our boy the loveeeee:tup::tup:
     
  10. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Yeah but Rivers needs to thank LT for doing shuch a great job coaching.
     
  11. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    If he gets a huge deal he better perform this good, hopefully better, in the future. I think he will but you never know...he's awesome but he isn't perfect.
     
  12. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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  13. Showmeyourbolt

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    I would hope so. He's had one stellar year, but his 2007 season was nothing to be proud of.
     
  14. VikingBolt

    VikingBolt BoltTalker

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    JUST ONCE, I'd like to see a person prove that money isn't everything, and make a deal that's as good as he has now. Besides, they could always have incentive bonuses after he's proved he's better than any quarterback ever....ur...ummmm, with the exception of Johnny U.
     
  15. Boltergeist

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    This is another example of an AJ F-UP with contract negotiations...We COULD have locked Rivers up for FAR less even earlier this season.

    Tony Romo...same age as Rivers...very comparable (if not better) career to this point signed a 6 year 67 mill contract in 2007. We could have certainly locked in Rivers at that point for comparable money...maybe a little more as a sweetner....but no where near 100 mill.

    Now we have to dismantle our team and not lock in other players JUST as important to this team like Merriman because we have to open up the vault for our QB because we have no other choice.

    Nice work AJ...you mule headed moron.
     
  16. Boltjolt

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    First of all, Romo is NOT as good as Rivers. Dude chokes in big games.

    He got a 6 year , 69 million deal which averages 11.5 million a year and if it were a 8 year deal, it would be a 92 million deal.

    Ben Roethlisberger got an 8 year , 102 million deal. He has a superbowl ring while Romo hasnt won a playoff game. I think the longer the contract, the better the cap hit is per year.

    Eli is rumored to be getting a 120 million deal and he isnt as good as Rivers either....but he has a ring because of his defense.

    Sure they should of locked him up sooner and who knows if they didnt try. He has an agent and maybe he wanted to wait to see how his season went since he played so well at the end of the 2007 season. Maybe they wanted him cheap this year because they knew he would make big bucks going forward.

    I dont know, but Ben set the table with his big contract first so dont blame AJ.
     
  17. Showmeyourbolt

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    Don't believe it. It is entirely possible to bring back both Rivers and Merriman, as well as resign some of our other stars. If it doesn't happen, it's simply because the Chargers don't really want to put forth the effort or the money to make it happen.
     
  18. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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