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There's real bad blood beyond banter between Broncos-Bolts

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    By Tim Sullivan


    It's not the trash talk that troubles Jacques Cesaire. It's not the borderline blocks or the post-whistle provocation that bothers him about the Denver Broncos.

    It's more than that. Or maybe less.

    “They have bad teeth,” the Chargers defensive end disclosed Wednesday. “They have bad hair. They don't know how to cook. What else don't I like about them? They watch “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.' Who does that? Who watches “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?' That's what I want to know. I heard the Denver Broncos watch it. I'm just sayin'.”

    Seeking a straight answer from Jacques Cesaire is like trying to find the lost continent of Atlantis at the bottom of a box of ******* Jack. The man is nine parts mirth and one part muscle, a second-string lineman with Pro Bowl patter. You approach him to ascertain the level of bad blood between the Chargers and their leading AFC West rivals and you walk away wondering what all of the animosity is about.

    “For the most part, I have no problem with those guys,” Cesaire said. “Some guys might. I mean, obviously the quarterback (Jay Cutler), from what he's saying about my quarterback (Philip Rivers), I have a little problem with him. But my biggest complaint with him is that he looks like Ringo Starr, you know? I'm just not feeling his haircut.

    “Take a look at Cutler sometimes. He has like this shag look going. I don't even know what it's called. I was just looking at his press conference the other day after the game. He had on this overgrown suit jacket. It was like 'Come on, man. Let's get it together.' ”

    When asked what he would say to Cutler should he sack him Sunday, Cesaire replied with a single word: “Supercuts.”

    Cesaire went on this way long enough and loudly enough to attract some anxious looks from his teammates. Fellow defensive end Luis Castillo wondered if Cesaire's comments might supply bulletin board material for the Broncos as they prepare for Sunday's decisive division game at Qualcomm Stadium.

    Why that's ridiculous: 1) Even the Broncos ought to be able to tell when someone as jovial as Cesaire is joking; 2) No player on either team should require any additional incentive for a game that will determine which team advances to the playoffs; 3) The real issues between the Chargers and Broncos run much deeper than Cutler's coiffure
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    Six Decembers ago, the Chargers beat the Broncos in overtime to improve their record to 8-4, but lost nose guard Jamal Williams to a season-ending ankle injury on a questionable hit from behind and away from the ball by Denver's Steve Herndon. Without Williams to fortify their run defense, the Chargers lost their last four games and missed the playoffs.

    Three Decembers ago, in a season finale of no great significance, Denver's Gerard Warren availed himself of a free shot at Drew Brees and tore the quarterback's labrum with a gratuitous landing on his shoulder. Though the injury gave the Chargers a convenient excuse to let Brees go, Warren's hit was widely seen as another deliberate Denver cheap shot.

    Last December, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers infuriated the Broncos with what they interpreted as sideline taunting of Cutler in the fourth quarter of a Monday Night Game at Qualcomm Stadium.

    “He's not a respectable guy right now,” Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey said of Rivers, “because you talk too much trash and do this and that, but you're really not a great player in this league right now.”

    More recently, Cutler piled on in a television interview with the Best Damn Sports Show.

    “I'm just not that big a fan of the guy.” Cutler said of Rivers. “I don't like how he carries himself. I don't like some of the stuff he does on the field.”

    Though many Chargers fans still regard the Oakland Raiders as the embodiment of evil, Chargers players show a deeper disdain for Denver. Some of this is a function of the relative standing of the Bolts' division rivals, but a lot of it has to do with the cutthroat nature of the competition.

    “There is kind of a little extra activity that is going on,” Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson said Wednesday. “I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of that going on this weekend with so much on the line and two teams that really don't care for each other . .

    “I take a fair amount of cheap shots against them, and probably a couple other guys (do), too. That goes right along with the chippiness and the extra activity that goes along. (But) If that's the way they're going to be, then we're going to get our guys to do the same thing.”

    Castillo attributes some of the extracurricular activity between the two teams to high stakes rather than low opinions, and said he has not seen more pushing and shoving than he would otherwise expect at this point in the season with the playoffs on the line.

    “It's the same as playing the Colts, the same as playing the Patriots,” Castillo said. “Every time we've played them for the last few years, you know it's probably going to be a matchup you're going to see again in the playoffs, and there's that feel to it every time you play them. It's almost like a playoff atmosphere every time you play.”

    Each player's experience is different. Each player's perception is a reflection of that experience as filtered through pro football's macho code and obsession with secrecy. Each player, too, expresses himself differently, none more distinctly than Jacques Cesaire.

    “I don't think there's a (real) hatred,” Cesaire said. “There's a good mutual respect for each team, except for the “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman' thing. But at the same time, they get a little chippy and we're a little chippy ourselves. We've got some talkers on our team and they've got some talkers on their team. And I think that's what it stems from.

    “It's kind of like, what's that old West Virginian hills thing?”

    “The Hatfields and McCoys?”

    “Yeah,” Cesaire said. “We don't know why we hate each other. We just do.”



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  2. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    Denver-San Diego rivalry hits a new level



    Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

    This subject came up on our AFC West chat Wednesday and it got me thinking: The Denver Broncos-San Diego Chargers rivalry has a chance to be one of the NFL's most heated rivalries for the next several years.

    The rivalry, already hot, has reached the next level in 2008.

    The AFC West boasts several rivalries and they are all strong but because Oakland and Kansas City are both down a tad these days, the rivalries involving those teams aren't as strong as they could be.

    But the Broncos-Chargers rivalry is red hot thanks to the events of the 2008 season.


    It took a turn in Week 2 when Denver beat San Diego 39-38. The victory, of course, was spurred by an officiating mistake late in the game.

    Now, the two teams will meet in San Diego in a winner-takes-the-division game Sunday night. It's the first time in 20 years that an NFL division will be decided in a head-to-head game in the final week of the season.

    Can this rivalry get any hotter?

    Fans are at each other's throats and even the two team's quarterbacks are in on it. Denver quarterback Jay Cutler and San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers had an on-field beef in San Diego last Christmas Eve and Cutler has expressed his distaste for Rivers on a few occasions this year.

    Yes, there is no need to bolster the interest in this game. This AFC West rivalry is real. And it's only getting bigger.
     
  3. Buck Melanoma

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    High drama on Sunday night. The NFL's wet dream. :lol:
     
  4. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Jacques Cesaire is now my all time favorite back up Charger. :icon_rofl:
     
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  5. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Don't sing it, just bring it
     
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  6. TheLash

    TheLash Well-Known Member

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    Let's Get It On!!:abq1:
     
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  7. Buck Melanoma

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    Less talk, more walk. :tup:
     
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  8. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    QUESTIONABLE? That was a dirty cheap bullshit play, what the hell was questionable about it?
     
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  9. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I think it's great our teams hate each other. let em talk cause it will still all come down to the game it's self. Whichever team want's it the most will take the AFCW title home. I just have a feeling that will be our Bolt's. :bolt:
     
  10. !~BOLT~!

    !~BOLT~! Well-Known Member

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    Up until this thread I had almost completely forgotten that we were once considered a team that couldn't finish out the season.

    My how thing change.
     
  11. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Questionable = them doing it
    Bullshit = we do it (Igor to Nalen?)
     
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  13. Aggieman

    Aggieman I bleed blue and gold

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    1. Cesaire is funny and he will probably will get to sack Cutler, mic him.
    2. thanks for bringing up painful memories
    3. **** the Broncos
    4. **** the Raiders fans more than the Broncos
    5. **** the Broncos
    6. **** the ****ing Denver ****ing Broncos
     
  14. Sydalish

    Sydalish Addicted to Sports

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    Excellent list. I concur.

    :tup:
     
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    Back then, that was a legal hit. Since then the NFL has made that kind of a block or what the Bronco's referred to as "Technique" is now illegal.

    The Bronco’s broke several other Ankles besides Jamal’s, that’s why the NFL made it an illegal block.
     
  16. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    OK, legal but chickenshit, which seems to be the philosophy in Denver.
     
  17. ChargerRay

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    I hate the Broncos more than the Raiders now and probably always.
     
  18. auctoritas

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    I have felt this way for a while...but mostly because most of the dumber members of my family are from Denver.
     
  19. Savage Lizard

    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    The Broncos team yes.

    I ALWAYS relish a victory over the Raiders more because that means every ******* that I have had to listen to for the past 30+ years is unhappy on that day.
     
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    That's why he's my guy!
     
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    That my friends, wins the 'Theakstons Old Peculiar Ale' interview of the year award (as voted for by me).
     

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    More charger players talking than ever.....:icon_rofl: This is gonna be funny./
     
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    yes I agree 1000%, it was chickenshit! What is funny is how many Bronco fans thought there was nothing wrong with that tactic.
     
  24. Buck Melanoma

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    Nothing. It was a cheap ****ing shot - typical of a Shanarat-coached team. Still pisses me off .... :icon_evil:

    What's gonna be funny is the sad sack look on Cutler's face after he gets his *** handed to him by the Rivers-led Chargers - again. :tup:

    This is OUR division, *****. :lol:
     
  25. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Wow, there's a lot of bad blood in here too. I have the same feeling I had before the Buc's game, we will win and this may be a low scoring affair. If not, then we take it away big time and maybe to record proportion's. :bolt::icon_toast::abq2:
     
  26. SDRaiderH8er

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    The joint is going to be rocking, and the electricity will be flowing at a very high rate, to the tune where you can shut the SDG&E Electricity off, and the fans will light up all those lights overhead.
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I concur. :bolt:
     
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    I would love to have the Q hopping like we did when Eli came to town. That had to be one of the loudest games I have ever been a witness to.

    Sometimes you walk into the Q, and everyone is so blasé, then there are times when you can just feel the excitement. This has to be one of those times when you feel it when you wake up!
     
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    ROCK THE HOUSE!!!!!!​



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