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Tomlinson talks are expected to heat up this weekend

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

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    By Kevin Acee
    Thursday, February 19, 2009

    INDIANAPOLIS – Even before the principals began arriving here Thursday for the NFL Scouting Combine, meetings between the Chargers and LaDainian Tomlinson's agent were set for this weekend.

    Ed McGuire, Chargers assistant general manager, was scheduled to arrive in Indianapolis on Friday night, and sources said a series of discussions between him and Tomlinson's agent, Tom Condon, will take place after that. (McGuire is the team's chief negotiator; General Manager A.J. Smith rarely speaks directly with agents.)

    A source said Thursday that a meeting was set between McGuire and Condon for Sunday, but that likely will be just one of several components of a back-and-forth between the sides over a restructured contract for the superstar running back.

    It will be up to Tomlinson to accept less guaranteed money for 2009 with likely performance incentives that could earn him as much or more than the $6.725 million he is scheduled to make.

    But one complication to negotiations with Tomlinson (and other players) is that all incentives reached by a player in the 2009 season will count immediately toward the '09 salary cap, because 2010 is scheduled to be an uncapped year. That means teams have to leave extra room under the cap this year in case those incentives are reached.

    The Chargers have determined that with all the other players they want to sign over the next year, they cannot afford to keep Tomlinson at his current salary. His cap number is $8.79 million as it includes a $2.06 million prorated portion of his 2004 signing bonus.

    The Chargers on Wednesday placed the franchise tag on backup running back and kick returner Darren Sproles, who will not immediately sign the tender, according to a source. Leaving the tender unsigned will enable him to talk to other teams and gauge the viability of a trade.

    Additionally, Sproles and the Chargers have until July 15 to work out a multiyear deal. The sides have talked briefly and in preliminary terms at least twice, but their differences lie in their classification of Sproles. The team believes he is a kick returner and specialty back, while Sproles and his agent, Gary Wichard, see him as being able to have a more prominent role from scrimmage.

    Wichard has had two prominent players previously franchised that subsequently worked out long-term deals with their respective teams – Dwight Freeney in 2007 and Jason Taylor in 2001.

    Sources have said Tomlinson will be released if the sides can't reach agreement on a restructure. Tomlinson being gone will not affect Sproles' role, but it could change where the Chargers take a running back in the draft.

    That will definitely be a focus of the Chargers here this week. Draft-eligible running backs arrived in Indianapolis on Thursday and began being interviewed by teams Thursday night.
     
  2. boltmanbz

    boltmanbz Well-Known Member

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    so with incentives counting towards the 09 cap the Chargers will probably have a reduced base and incentives that dont add up to his 8 million, this could really mean bye bye LT
     
  3. CoronaDoug

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    They are giving Sproles $6.62 million for touching the ball 10 times a game and returning kicks? LT is looking at this and saying to himself WTF. I am sure his agent already has another team that he is already negotiating with on the side. Why should LT not earn more that what Sproles is making?
     
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    I don't get it. Every year we read about teams and their ability to figure out away around the cap numbers.

    I'm betting some how they work this thing out.
     
  5. bigcarson50

    bigcarson50 Well-Known Member

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    Do you think tom Brady is mad cassel is making more this year? LT needs to ask himself one question. Will I make more money restructuring, or refusing and getting what he can get on the open market. While Sproles money may hurt his ego a bit, it has nothing to do with what he will be able to do financially for himself.
     
  6. CoronaDoug

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    Brady and Cassel are totally different. Brady is not up for contract negotiations. We will soon see the real LT. I am sure that he can get more money from another team. This should be interesting.
     
  7. Johnny Lightning

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    Bolts Fans Wait for the Other Cleat to Drop

    Now Chargers fans wait for the other cleat to drop. The Chargers took care of one of their offseason tasks by designating running back/returner Darren Sproles as their franchise player. Next up for general manager A.J. Smith is the contract of LaDainian Tomlinson.

    But first Smith wanted to restrict Darren Sproles' dip into the free agency pool.

    Sproles can still talk to other clubs, but any team wanting him would now have to eclipse the Chargers' $6.62 million offer and deliver two first-round picks to secure Sproles.

    That won't happen, so by all accounts it appears Sproles is back as a returner and part-time running back.

    "We thought a lot about it and we felt a little bit uncomfortable with the unknown, which would be Darren entering the open market," Smith told reporters. "At that point, we would have been one of 32 teams. We've decided to put a franchise tag on him and have him as a part of our team for this year."

    There's a chance to parties could get together on a long-term deal. But for the short term, pencil the 5-foot-6, 181-pound Sproles as a Charger.

    Now what about LaDainian Tomlinson?

    Smith claims Sproles' deal doesn't figure into his talk with Tomlinson.

    "Has L.T. been eliminated from the process because of the franchise tag? Absolutely not," Smith said. "This designation has nothing to do with LaDainian Tomlinson. We're hoping to get a new deal done with him. One thing is not related to the other."

    Smith is hopeful of speaking with Tomlinson's agent, Tom Condon, at the NFL Scouting Combine. Tomlinson, the AFC's fourth-leading rusher last season, has said he would consider a reworked deal to stay with the team.

    His current cap number is north of $8 million and the Chargers have deemed that too high. On the horizon are potential deals to be worked out with quarterback Philip Rivers, outside linebacker Shawne Merriman, left tackle Marcus McNeill and tight end Antonio Gates.

    All four have Pro Bowls on their resume and won't come cheap.

    Sproles saw his value skyrocket after last season
     
  8. Burley

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    Letting LT go could potentially be one of the dumbest personel moves in NFL history. If he goes to another team and is 85% the LT of old, it would make AJ look like a fool and cost him his job. Not to mention the extremely rare high character player LT is and the respect he's given throughout the league and with the fans. I just can't see it. But I guess if they can do it to Brett Favre they could do it to LT...lets hope not...
     
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  9. Boltdiehard

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    Sign what they offer or get the fuk out LT and go join A-Roid in another presser.

    We need to win a SB and we don't need to see you in a parka staying warm during the playoffs while Rivers, Sproles and Gates play hurt and get the fuk beat out of them.

    You'll have a spot on the ring of honor and the HOF but no ring.

    Get in or go. :bolt:
     
  10. Charger Dave

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    This deal cannot come through soon enough for my blood. Then everybody can put away their digital testicles and start talking football again. :(
     
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  11. Boltdiehard

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    Dave always the voice of reason. Props to you. :bolt:

    I'll try and tone it down but LT needs to come to the table as well and stop running out-of-bounds to preserve his career only to miss the playoffs when we need him most.

    He says he's all about a ring but ever since Marty fuked us at home against the Pats he hasn't been the same.

    That and his boy Drew Brees but I digress.

    His attitude reminds me of Donnie Edwards.
     
  12. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    I don't think Sproles will play next year for the franchise money, he'll either sign a long (cheaper) contract or be traded (not for two ones but maybe a second rounder)
     

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