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Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Buck Melanoma, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. Buck Melanoma

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    Expectations lower, but Chargers remain a threat

    [​IMG]By Kevin Fishbain | Pro Football Weekly – 14 hours ago


    For the first time since 2006, the editors here at Pro Football Weekly did not predict the Chargers to win the AFC West. That kind of sentiment seems to be music to the ears of the Chargers’ franchise.
    Some things have not changed in San Diego. Philip Rivers is still the quarterback, Norv Turner remains the head coach — and he is still in a familiar place, on the hot seat, and many starters return. But after back-to-back seasons of missing the playoffs (a first for the Chargers since 2002-03), expectations are finally low — well, lower.
    As written in "Whispers" earlier in July, there is a relaxed atmosphere in San Diego with the attention in the division focused on Peyton Manning and the Broncos. The Chiefs are a sexy “sleeper” pick with Jamaal Charles and Eric Berry returning.
    It would be wrong for anyone to discount the Chargers. In fact, considering the lingering question marks about Manning’s health as well as the Broncos’ defense, it’s not ridiculous to think the Chargers are still the team to beat in the AFC West.
    Last season, the Eagles “won” free agency, adding key veteran parts, but the abbreviated offseason kept Philly from putting it all together until it was too late. The Chargers loaded up on veterans this offseason, but in a different manner. They added starters and players who add depth, but no “stars,” ie: no player that would conjure up a “Dream Team” moniker for the Chargers.
    GM A.J. Smith has made it clear that adding depth was important to the club, and he did so in a big way.
    At running back, Ryan Mathews is expected to be the bellcow, but he also has a long injury history, and Mike Tolbert is now in Carolina. No problem — enter veteran backs Le’Ron McClain, Ronnie Brown and Jackie Battle along with rookie Edwin Baker.
    After losing WR Vincent Jackson in free agency, the Chargers didn’t simply replace him. They added Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal, Roscoe Parrish and Micheal Spurlock. Malcom Floyd has played one 16-game season in his career, and the Chargers have options if he gets dinged again. With the experience added at wideout, and the hoopla surrounding Royal in the spring, it’s easy to forget that Vincent Brown showed flashes as a rookie last season. Rivers will not be lacking weapons this season.
    At tight end, Antonio Gates has missed nine games over the past two seasons, and rookie Ladarius Green and veteran Dante Rosario provide extra insurance.
    The O-line still might be a weak spot, especially after the retirement of Pro Bowl OG Kris Dielman, but the Chargers added OG Rex Hadnot, OT Mario Henderson and OT Phil Trautwein. Depth, depth and more depth.
    The D-line got an infusion of talent with second-round DE Kendall Reyes and veteran NT Aubrayo Franklin. Jarret Johnson comes over from Baltimore and will start in a linebacker group that has newcomers Demorrio Williams and Melvin Ingram, the team's first-round draft pick, among its reserves.
    And a new player will start at strong safety, either Atari Bigby or rookie Brandon Taylor.
    This is a veteran-laden team that returns plenty of starters, but starters with injury histories. What is possibly the deepest team that Turner has had in San Diego is one in which the bar has been set low.
    Defensive coordinator John Pagano will need to get improvements in third-down defense and in the red zone especially, and the hope is that rookies Ingram and Reyes will help spark the team’s pass rush. The O-line will need to play better, and pressure will be on OLT Jared Gaither to stay healthy.
    The offense, though, could be a juggernaut. Rivers has countless weapons at his disposal and is intent on making last year’s turnover problem an issue of the past. Aside from the Chiefs (who struggled against the run), the AFC West is not known for strong defenses heading into 2012.
    With crossover scheduling against the AFC North and NFC South, the schedule doesn’t do the Chargers a whole lot of favors (including a four-game stretch starting Nov. 18 that sees them play at Denver, at home against the Ravens and Bengals and then at Pittsburgh).
    Last year, Turner’s Chargers finally got off to a good start (4-1), but a six-game losing streak that included two overtime losses and five losses by seven points or less, did them in. This year, the normal pressure that comes with the expectation of winning the division isn’t in San Diego, even if the pressure on Turner hasn’t gone anywhere.
    With one of the league’s best quarterbacks, a running back primed to break out and depth all over the gridiron — especially at wide receiver and linebacker — the Chargers are built to return to the postseason.
    Don’t sleep on the Chargers, a team that is more than happy to see the prognosticators and cameras fall in love with Denver this summer.
     
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  2. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    It's a good thing River's last name ain't Manning.
     
  3. Dublin Bolt

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    Nice article Buck... I'm happy to fly under the radar. I remember last year we had the embrace the hate campaign. This year it can be Go Stealth!.

    ie. we'll sneak up on the league and then bomb the sh1t out of them.
     
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    I don't care where we fly or if we do. I just want to win.
     
  5. Buck Melanoma

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    Buffalo's offseason hype is worrisome. We love Chan Gailey, but it's hard to expect him to out-scheme the opposition all season. In Denver, there is a lot of assuming Peyton Manning will be Peyton Manning and that their weaknesses suddenly will disappear. The Titans could make noise in a weak division. After years of overrating the Chargers, we're hoping to underrate them.
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Over, under, sideways and though it doesn't matter, they are still going to have to win games. It is their job after all.
     
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    In 1994, we were picked by the talking heads before the season even began to finish dead last in our division but we started off 6-0, and the rest is history!

    I sure would like to see a rematch of Superbowl XXIX, I think the results would be different this time around! :bolt2:
     
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    7. Watch out for San Diego: For the first time in years, expectations are low for the San Diego Chargers. They should not be. San Diego is as loaded as ever and made more under-the-radar offseason moves than any team in the league. The Chargers added former Broncos wide receiver Eddie Royal, former Saints wide receiver Robert Meachem and former Bills wide receiver Roscoe Parrish. After spending some time at minicamps with Royal, Chargers head coach Norv Turner called him "one of the most impressive" players he has coached. Meachem has demonstrated more talent than the Chargers saw on tape when they studied his play in New Orleans. Parrish can help in the slot and on special teams. Many fans are not counting on the Chargers primarily because Philip Rivers is coming off a poor season and San Diego lost wide receiver Vincent Jackson to Tampa Bay. But Rivers is expected to rebound, and there are capable replacements for Jackson. Look for San Diego to be one of this season's surprise teams.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...-offseason-season-bring-adam-schefter-10-spot
     
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    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    If injuries don't take their toll and the team gels the NFL could be in for a long season. But dammit, there are those "if's" again and I hate the little bustards.
     
  11. Buck Melanoma

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    So it's only a preseason game but still ....

    Watching NFL AM, getting ready to go outside when I see that they're giving a quick take on this week's games. Packers/Chargers third in line so I hang out to hear this. All about the Packers. Not one word regarding the Chargers.

    Embrace the hate.
     
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    Under the radar and right on target.
     
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    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    It's when the strike is under the radar that they never expect anything until it hits them right in the face

    Tick Tick Tick Boom
     
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    If the sports nation thinks that VJ 'WAS' the Chargers and now the Chargers are nothing without him than the sports world are EXTREMELY STUPID.
     
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    They are also stupid for many other reasons
     
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    Chargers announce they've signed a pair of offensive tackles, Anthony Davis and Michael Toudouze.

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    Tackles being signed doesn't mean Jared Gaither is out for season. This is so Mike Harris doesn't have to take such big load.
     
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    To even see the dismissal of this possibility in writing makes me nervous. :eek:
     
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    There is an entire month before the season starts, I would be shocked if Gaither misses more than 1 more week. At that point I think the Chargers training staff would and should come under serious scrutiny for such a massive underestimation of this injury.

    I'm not worried yet, but if he doesn't practice the week of the 3rd pre-season game...then I'll start to get anxious.
     
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    Remember we have Dr Kovorkian working the medical staff. We will be lucky if the entire team isn't on IR by game 1. lol
     
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    Its amazing how many people don't realize that Rivers lead the NFL in passing in 2010, WITHOUT VJ
     
  22. Buck Melanoma

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    And a fair number of those folks are CHARGER FANS!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
     
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    Yep, and it is working out for me in fantasy drafts because he is falling until the 5th or 6th round and going after Peyton
     
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    and his #2 (Floyd) for most of the year and the #3 (Naane) for most of the year
     
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    Yep, and Gates limping all year. He threw the ball to like 17 different people that year. It was crazy and just shows how good he is.
     
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    Cant be. Cause Norv sucks and the Chargers are going no where... No really... I was told so on the internet! :D
     
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    Norv hurts the team, not Rivers stats :)
     
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    If the rookie is good enough, let him start. We didn't do all too poorly with a rookie at LT in 2006 as I recall.
     
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    Nor did we have issues at RT or C in 04 when Hardwick and Olivea were rookies
     
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