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Unit second-guessing its aggressiveness in loss

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Johnny Lightning, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Go Bolts

    Feb 7, 2006
    September 11, 2008

    There was the short pass to Carolina's Dwayne Jarrett that Antonio Cromartie tried to jump, got a hand on but did not keep from Jarrett. Gain of 25 yards.
    There was a similar play that happened to Antoine Cason. And even to Quentin Jammer, who prefers usually to play it safe and just knock a ball down.
    “Yeah,” Jammer said with an almost-sheepish smile. “We were going for picks. Turnovers change the complexion of the game.”
    This secondary knows that well. It had a big hand in the Chargers leading the NFL in 2007 with 30 interceptions.
    With that past success in mind, many of the Chargers' defensive backs acknowledged they were trying a little too hard for the game-changing play. Their only turnover against the Panthers, though, was a forced fumble by Cason in the fourth quarter.
    Cromartie blamed his attempt on his missing a call change in the defense. He thought he had safety help behind him, which would have made his try for a pick justifiable.
    From his vantage point, defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell did not think the secondary was trying too hard for picks. He applauded their aggressiveness.
    “We don't stop them from trying to make a play on the ball,” Cottrell said. “If a guy thinks he can make a play on the ball, he does. They have to use their judgment.”
    Nonetheless, the secondary has been talking about and working on remaining disciplined this week.
    “You can't jeopardize the success of the defense by playing outside of yourself,” strong safety Clinton Hart said. “Stay in the defense.”
    Cromartie, who led the NFL with 10 interceptions last season, believes the Chargers should continue to play as they did, if only smarter. They did come close to four or five interceptions Sunday.
    “And when they start coming, they're going to come,” he said. “As a secondary we have to continue doing what we're supposed to – playing physical and attacking the ball.” Injury update Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson got treatment for his sore right big toe and didn't practice for the second straight day. He said he expects to practice today.
    “It felt a lot better than (Wednesday),” Tomlinson said of the toe he hurt on the Chargers' last offensive series in the season-opening loss to Carolina. “Just another day of treatment and rest. It did real good. . . . I'll practice (today).”
    Tomlinson reiterated he “definitely” will play Sunday in Denver.
    Cromartie, who has a bruised hip, also missed his second straight practice. “I think he'll do all right,” head coach Norv Turner said.
    Left tackle Marcus McNeill, who hasn't practiced since two days before the exhibition opener because of a bulging disk, took a positive step toward possibly returning Sept. 22 against the New York Jets.
    With his helmet on, McNeill worked on the side with strength and conditioning coach Jeff Hurd.

    By Kevin Acee
  2. montanabolthead

    montanabolthead BoltTalker

    Sep 16, 2006
    Thanks JL. Our secondary needs to loosen up and play ball. No doubt they are feeling the pressure from expectations of a Super Bowl season.

    The Donko's will be a challenge. Royal and Marshall had a Pro Bowl day against the Turds' alleged All World DB's. Hope they enjoyed it because they won't have that luxury this weekend.

    Q Jam, Cro, Weddle, Hart settle down, play ball and knock the crap out of the Donko's!
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  3. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

    Jan 19, 2006
    Cromartie has to learn sometimes just knock it down
    He was going for the INT far too many times, and I remember against Detroit that hail mary, Cro went up for the interception and it almost caused a touchdown because he should've knocked it away.
  4. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

    Mar 5, 2006
    The secondary did fine, pressure the phuquin QB and their job gets easier!!!!
  5. Buck Melanoma

    Buck Melanoma Guest

    The secondary will be able to play the receivers a lot tighter if they aren't having to worry so much about stopping the run. That's a hint to tighten up, front seven!!! :tup:
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  6. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

    Aug 15, 2006
    The need to find their balls. If they have any.
  7. pure-sol

    pure-sol Well-Known Member

    May 3, 2008
    Just to clarify, Marshall was suspended vs the Turds.
  8. megold0715

    megold0715 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    YEAH marshal as out and they still smoked the faiders marshal will be back in sunday so well need to step it up even more but hell probably be rusty sheffler on the other had we have to be that guys shadow
  9. Daddy_O

    Daddy_O Well-Known Member

    Nov 28, 2006
    Wait a little young padawan.....knock down the ball to create alot of 3rd and looooong. Let them get behind and the picks will come in droves in the second half.

    Mistakes are made when there is a decent deficit.
  10. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

    Aug 14, 2006
    DB aggressivness wasn't the problem!

    It was Ted Cottrell droping into prevent against a team who didn't even have their only deep threat Steve Smith!

    I phuckin hate Cottrell, it better not take 8 weeks to pull his head out of his *** again.
  11. Retired Catholic

    Retired Catholic BoltTalker

    Aug 3, 2006
    A healthy Tucker will toughen things up a bit more than a gimpy Merriman.
  12. Zeus

    Zeus BoltTalker

    Nov 21, 2006
    We need to rush 5 guys almost every other play. The Raiders only rushed 4 and look what happened. Cutler has trouble with fast short passes he needs time. He converted two passes for short yards, even these were close to 10. Cutler tends to have poor accuracy on the shorter outs. Give him time and he will eat us up.

    Our secondary is good enough to cover their receivers if we don't give them time. Also we need to be physical with their receivers both Royal and BM have trouble with physical coverage.
  13. bigmike.x.09

    bigmike.x.09 Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2006
    i give a TON of credit to our secondary, they were our only line of defense really, however, i do think our defense needs to loosen up and just play, forget about the expectations and just do what they do, ive said this before, if we do our thing, nobody can stop us. :yes:

    go bolts :bolt:
  14. Enormo

    Enormo BoltTalker

    Jul 22, 2007
    Word plus reps.

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