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USA Today Inside Slant 11-16-06

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by mapcap55, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. mapcap55

    mapcap55 BoltTalker

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    Philip is licking his chops...
     
  2. boltsnow

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    That's the way I was looking at it also. I hope that that is what they do. We always go into Denver playing conservative and that gets us in trouble. We need to jolt them a little (a lot) and come out gunnin!:yes:
     
  3. in_a_days

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    With Oben coming back we should actually have some degree of depth on the O Line... very good to hear :yes:
     
  4. Bergo23

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    Cam's shedding light on his choices in Baltimore also fueled these comments by Rivers. Its time to keep those graves rolling over in Martyball's dreams, he has the team to win it all for him if he is willing to let Philip open things up. Rivers seems so veteran like in throwing away balls when nothing is there and not forcing things. Give him the keys in Denver Marty, you won't be disappointed. I am especially licking my chops at the prospect of VJ and Floyd getting matched up on Darrent Williams (5'8") ,and Foxworth (5'11")....exploit the Matchups and pick on 'em Cam!!!!!

    I still think LT in the slot and Turner in the backfield is a solid formation to exploit Denver's D.....Cam will find the matchups we need, the OLine just needs to keep protecting and blocking like they have been the last month, Denver could be behind all day with Plummer trying to lead them back, I like those chances!!!!:icon_toast:
     
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  5. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Again, I did not want to start a new thread but read this:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6174508

    Lots at stake for Broncos, Chargers on SundayMike Tanier / FootballOutsiders.com
    Posted: 9 hours ago

    Napoleon had Waterloo. Custer had Little Big Horn. The Empire had that corny planet full of Ewoks. Marty Schottenheimer has Mile High Stadium.

    Schottenheimer is 3-14 lifetime on the road against the Broncos. You are probably familiar with The Fumble, Earnest Byner's red zone gaffe that gave the Broncos a victory in the 1987 AFC title game. But that game is only a short chapter in a long history of futility. In 1988, a 30-7 loss at Denver nearly kept Schottenheimer's Browns from the playoffs. In 1990, a 24-23 loss to a bad Broncos team kept his Chiefs from competing for a division title. In 1996, a 31-7 loss at Mile High kept the Chiefs out of the playoffs. Last year, a 20-17 early season loss in Denver forced the Chargers to battle from behind in the AFC West race for the rest of the season.

    Schottenheimer's legacy is defined by his early career losses to the Broncos in the playoffs (The Drive occurred in Cleveland), and the Broncos have spent two decades thumbing their nose at one of the NFL's winningest coaches. In 1997, Schottenheimer allegedly told his Chiefs that he would pay any of their "unnecessary roughness" fines before a playoff matchup with the Broncos, such was his hatred for that team. Schottenheimer denied the rumor, but his Chiefs lost at home 14-10.

    Schottenheimer arrives in Denver on Sunday with the best team in the AFC. All that's at stake, besides the AFC West, is the coach's reputation, his place in history and possibly his job. Another 11-5 season and an early playoff exit won't cut it this year, not with a Chargers team this good. Schottenheimer needs this win to silence his doubters and take control of the division. Think the Colts battle demons when they face the Patriots? Compared to them, Schottenheimer is Constantine.

    Constantine the comic book/movie character -- Keanu Reeves played him. Remember? Not the fourth century emperor who converted Rome to Christianity. Because, you know, that reference wouldn't make much sense.

    Games you will watch
    Chargers at Broncos: Marty Ball is dead. Long live Marty Ball.

    Last Sunday's Tecmo Super Bowl battle against the Bengals taught the television talking heads what careful observers have always known: the Chargers' ultra-conservative offense is a thing of the past. In fact, the "run at all costs" Schottenheimer strategy was really a fiction all along. Joe Montana and Bernie Kosar were certainly allowed to air it out on Marty's watch. Heck, Drew Brees threw for 3,500 yards last year. But Schottenheimer does tend to play turtle ball when protecting a passer like Elvis Grbac or Tony Banks from himself, and when he ran the ball 40 times against the Ravens and lost early in the season, even jokers like us took shots at his close-to-the-vest tactics. But Schottenheimer has put his faith in Philip Rivers in recent weeks, and the Chargers now lead the league in points scored.

    Malcom Floyd is just one of many unknown Chargers who are making big plays. (David Kohl / Associated Press)

    But if Marty Ball means a focus on player development and football fundamentals, then it's alive and well. Rivers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and Shawne Merriman get all of the attention, but players like Malcom Floyd, Shaun Phillips, Brandon Manumaleuna and Igor Olshansky stepped up last week when the Chargers needed to erase a 21-point deficit. Few coaches get more out of their role players and bench warmers than Schottenheimer does. The anonymity of many of the team's key contributors partially explains why the Chargers are the AFC's stealth team: everyone is talking about the Colts, the Patriots, and even the Broncos, and few have noticed the team that can whip them all.

    Let's make this as clear as possible: their records may be the same, but the Chargers are a much better team than the Broncos. Their balanced offense will be able to run and pass against a very good Broncos defense. Their defense is vulnerable to spread-the-field passing attacks like Cincinnati's, but they have no fear of Denver's running and play-action interception-throwing attack. If there were no "whammy" factor, every analyst in the business would call for an easy Chargers win.

    At Rundown and at Football Outsiders, we don't believe in the whammy factor. What happened in 1987 has no bearing on this game (though it makes a nice lead for an article). The Broncos have their usual home-field advantage this week, not some special "Marty has the yips" advantage. And while Denver is a tough place for any visitor, mountain air and crowd noise won't be enough this week. Take the Chargers, take the points. Yep: you even get points!

    CLICK ON LINK FOR MORE BUT IT IS ABOUT OTHER TEAMS
     
  6. Trumpet_Man

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    No link and I think this is edited ? :icon_shrug: I stole it off a Broncos website :icon_mrgreen:

    Weak secondary puts Chargers on the offensive

    By KC Joyner
    ESPN Insider
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    I do a chat every Thursday on the ESPN SportsNation section of this Web site. Although I field a lot of posts in regards to my weekly articles, a high percentage of the questions have to do with other teams or players than were covered in the articles. Because of this, I thought it would be interesting to review more teams in each week's article. This week's article will focus on some AFC passing matchups for Week 11.

    San Diego vs. Denver

    The San Diego secondary was exposed last Sunday as the weak link that everyone thought it was coming into the season. This unit had started the year off well, but there were warning signs that all was not as well as it seemed. Take a look at the yards per attempt allowed by the Chargers in each game:

    San Diego secondary
    San Diego SecondaryWeekOpponentAttYdsYPA1 Oakland 19 96 5.1 2 Tennessee 38 163 4.3 4 Baltimore 30 158 5.3 5 Pittsburgh 31 220 7.1 6 San Francisco 31 214 6.9 7 Kansas City 27 232 8.6 8 St. Louis 40 327 8.2 9 Cleveland 43 236 5.5 10 Cincinnati 42 440 10.5

    The first three games were dominant, but they came against three of the worst passing offenses in the NFL (at least at the time the games were played). Once the competition heated up, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips' secondary started showing its real talent level.

    What this likely means is that the Chargers are going to have to win shootouts every week. Can they do it this week against a stingy Broncos defense? The key to answering that question might lie in who Denver cornerback Champ Bailey is assigned to cover. The reason I say this is because I ran Bailey's coverage metrics for the past two years against the Chargers. Here are his metrics for the times he was in single coverage against Keenan McCardell:

    Vs. Keenan McCardell
    Vs. Keenan McCardellYearAttCompYdsTDINTPenP-YdsYPA2005 4 1 4 0 1 0 0 1.0 2004 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1.0 Total 5 2 5 0 1 0 0 2.0
    Here are Bailey's metrics when facing Eric Parker:
    Vs. Eric Parker
    Vs. Eric ParkerYearAttCompYdsTDINTPenP-YdsYPA2005 7 6 71 0 0 0 0 10.1 2004 3 2 36 0 0 0 0 12.0 Total 10 8 107 0 0 0 0 22.1

    For whatever reason, Bailey has a lot of trouble covering Eric Parker. As crazy as this might sound, the key to this game could be if the Chargers are able to get Parker matched up against Bailey.

    San Diego SecondaryWeekOpponentAttYdsYPA1 Oakland 19 96 5.1 2 Tennessee 38 163 4.3 4 Baltimore 30 158 5.3 5 Pittsburgh 31 220 7.1 6 San Francisco 31 214 6.9 7 Kansas City 27 232 8.6 8 St. Louis 40 327 8.2 9 Cleveland 43 236 5.5 10 Cincinnati 42 440 10.5
     
  7. boltssbbound

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    I still remember Parker beating Bailey on a fade pattern in the 2004 game at SD. That really seemed to take some of the swagger out of the Broncos' D.
     
  8. RMANCIL

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    With Parker not practicing it doesn't look like he will play.
     
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    Parker missed practice on Wednesday, but he's expected to practice today. :yes:
     
  10. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Even with Parker dinged, I like Malcolm Floyd and VJ needs to earn his goddamn money as well.

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    Please share. What was the nail in the coffin? How did you get banned?

    Oh, and does a lifetime ban mean the Bolts will never lose to the Donks again?
     
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    AHHH! My eyes! That orange is worse than Shanarat's fake tan!
     

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