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Vincent Jackson's decision is coming soon

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by CoronaDoug, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    Time to feed the piranha!


    Vincent Jackson's decision is coming soon

    Posted by Mike Florio on October 21, 2010 1:08 PM ET
    With the trade deadline having come and gone, Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson and Patriots guard Logan Mankins remain the property of their current teams. But they're also unsigned.

    Per a league source, Jackson will be deciding within the next 24 hours whether he'll be signing his tender in time to play this year.

    For Jackson, the deadline for showing up is October 30, given that he needs to spend three weeks on the roster exempt list before he can play. And he needs to be on the roster before Week 11 in order to get credit for the 2010 season.

    For more on Jackson and Mankins and why they've been advised by the union to show up this year, we give you a (relatively) brand new PFTV segment.

    Vincent Jackson's decision is coming soon | ProFootballTalk.com
     
  2. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    What decision?

    He's got no choice.

    VJ... you're next. Show up and your LTC will be waiting in your locker prior to the first playoff game.
     
  3. !~BOLT~!

    !~BOLT~! Well-Known Member

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    I don't really expect much from him and have no idea how welcoming his wagon will be if he does return. It almost seems like he should just stay away, not that we have a good thing going for him to ruin.

    Unless he pulls his head out of his ***, calls AJ, apologizes and we never hear a bad word about him again.
     
  4. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    The sad thing is, with the injuries to Floyd and Naanee we could really use him right now.
     
  5. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Bingo. He's smiling just like Marcus was.
     
  6. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    And it really sucks because before they got injured they were making him irrelevant.
     
  7. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Right again, Leo.

    And right now AJ is prepping his bunghole for another thorough plugging.
     
  8. DenverBolt67

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    He will get one the day that Merriman gets one
     
  9. !~BOLT~!

    !~BOLT~! Well-Known Member

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    Yep, that does suck. The ball has shifted courts, although he still isn't getting paid so....
     
  10. DenverBolt67

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    I don't expect much out of him either. He has gone nearly a year without stepping on the field and will take time too get his timing down with Rivers again
     
  11. boltsnow

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    Not that it isn't needed but what timing? I thought Rivers usually just chucked it up and VJ went and got it. Kind of like Moss with Favre.
     
  12. !~BOLT~!

    !~BOLT~! Well-Known Member

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    A lot of his receptions were timing paterns to the sideline. Although I see where you are going with that, it's probably 60/40 throw it up there and let him go get it.
     
  13. Kwak

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    He has 3 weeks of practice after he signs to get his timing down before he can step on the field. They already know each others tendencies, it's just a matter of knocking off the rust.
     
  14. boltsnow

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    Having the time and actually putting the time inare 2 totally different items. That's what most are questioning...his desire to even give a s h i t.
     
  15. wrbanwal

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    does he automatically get added the roster when he signs his tender?

    What if he never makes it to the roster? Is that possible?
     
  16. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    He'll be auditioning for a new contract. That will (hopefully) serve as enough motivation.
     
  17. markrc99

    markrc99 BoltTalker

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    Thanks Doug, I've been waiting for something...

    "... that's why the NFLPA suggested to both guys to show up, because under the current labor agreement, if you're a restricted free agent and you don't show up at all, you're still a restricted free agent the next year. And even though Mankins and Jackson each have 5 years of service, they would be restricted free agents next year under the current labor deal. The union doesn't want to have to negotiate a new term into the next labor deal, so the union says, show up and report and get your credit for this year. Whether or not they do remains to be seen. But it's clear the union is not going to go to bat for these guys, they're on their own. They've got to show up or they're going risk being restricted free agents again and going through this whole process again next year. ... You know, I think Mankins is going to show up... but I feel at the end of the day, Jackson won't." - Mike Florio

    Okay, so Florio repeatedly says "under the current" arrangement. Well, everybody on the planet understands the problem with this premise. The current agreement is null & void after this year. Although it's fair and likely to assume there won't be a new agreement and Jackson will have to seek arbitration or anti-trust litigation. But here's the problem, Jackson and Mankins won't be the only players who'll have 5 accrued seasons and an expired contract. The circumstance is presented as if these two will be in some sort of limbo, unlike the rest of their members. That simply isn't true! Perhaps there has been a back-door compromise? They'll show, but not much is expected and neither side has to contemplate such ramifications in the next agreement? Although, I don't see that as being in the long term interest of the players.

    Guess Florio didn't get the memo that it was a foregone conclusion that Jackson would report.
     
  18. boltsnow

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    As much as I'd like to think so I don't think he really gives a crap. He really doesn't have anything to audition. If he was coming back from injury or something like that I would say yes or if he had a bad year I would also say yes but every team knows what he has done and what he can do. In reality, there really isn't anything to audition for. By the time a team signs him it will more than likely be in the off-season and every player will be out of sync by then. He has 2 worries....not signing his tender and possibly going through this again next year or AJ franchising him but he'll get his money that way also albeit for one year.
     
  19. boltsnow

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    What the ruling is is if you are a RFA AND DID NOT PLAY THE PREVIOUS ACCRUED SEASON. Those are the only 2 that are presently in that situation.
     
  20. markrc99

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    boltsnow:

    Yes, I've read & heard that argument many times. That they'll be RFAs solely because they held out. The CBA simply doesn't say anything to that effect. What's being said here (IMO) is that there won't be a new agreement. Thus, the league will revert to the current requirements. Well, the current requirements are going to affect a lot of players.
     
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    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b6yMT

    Unsigned Chargers restricted free agent receiver Vincent Jackson's absence from the team will finally end next Friday, October 29.

    Agent Neil Schwartz tells PFT's Mike Florio that the decision has been made for Jackson to show up to work in eight days. Jackson needs to report then because he's on the roster exempt list, meaning he can't be on the active roster for three weeks after he signs his contract tender.

    Jackson needs to be on the Week 11 roster in order to get credit for the 2010 season and avoid being a restricted free agent next season. Jackson also served a three-game suspension to start the year for repeat violations the league's personal conduct policy in regards to his two DUI convictions. (Confused yet?)

    Chargers players will undoubtedly welcome Jackson back with open arms, but it remains to be seen if this news thaws out the icy relationship of Jackson's representatives and Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith.

    When Jackson's teammate Marcus McNeill signed his tender, a contract extension came soon thereafter. That's not expected to happen in Jackson's case.

    Then again, a lot of folks didn't think Jackson would sign at all with the Chargers this year.
     
  22. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes it does. Now go read it.
     
  23. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    So AJ just bent over VJ and Sasquatch.

    Awesome and McNeill liked it.
     
  24. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Fans from other teams should take notice how a GM with HUEVOS handles bizness.

    AJ haters are feeling the pain of being wrong yet again.
     
  25. SDRaiderH8er

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    how come he did not have a show like LeBron James did on ESPN to make his announcement
     
  26. SDRaiderH8er

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    I would put him on the inactive list, and let him get his tenure riding the pine.
     
  27. ChargerJeff

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    BINGO!
     
  28. boltsnow

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    Is this what you are referring to?.....Direct from the CBA.

    (iii) If a Restricted Free Agent does not play in the NFL in a League Year, his Prior Team shall have the
    right to tender such player any Qualifying Offer consistent with Section 2(b) prior to the next League Year’s
    Restricted Free Agent Signing Period. In the event such a Qualifying Offer is tendered, the Prior Team shall
    have the applicable rights regarding such player according to such tender, and such player shall have the same
    rights regarding negotiations with other Clubs as he had the previous League Year.
     
  29. Trumpet_Man

    Trumpet_Man Well-Known Member

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    Atta boy.

    Hard to refute the facts.
     
  30. CoronaDoug

    CoronaDoug Well-Known Member

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    My official stance on this topic....

    F VINCENT JACKSON

    He will not be a Charger next year. He is playing this season out and getting the F out of SD.
     

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