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Whaaa....whaaa....whaa... Squealer fans...

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by ChargerMike, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. ChargerMike

    ChargerMike BoltBruthaFromAnuthMutha

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    All bent up about the illegal formation no call on the last Succop FG attempt......
    It had absolutely no bearing on the fact that he actually MISSED the freak'n kick.....legal or illegal.
    Now maybe, if it had been blocked or something.....geez....:rolleyes:

    GO BOLTS!!!:abq2:

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  2. HollywoodLeo

    HollywoodLeo Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, had the refs called that as they should have the Chiefs would have had a 2nd chance at the kick from 5 yards closer.

    That being said, Steelers fans are the last people who should be whining about bad calls.
     
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  3. Lance19

    Lance19 BoltTalker

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    Maybe the Steeler fans can just Succ it op this one time...
     
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  4. JohnnyX

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    I think we had a similar call go against vs the texans. None of that matters, had the chiefs scored a td on their last drive they win the game and missed fg is forgotten. I'm thinking east coast bias as it seems everyone loves to suck up to the steelers. In espn Hoge and Jaws looked sad that the steelers didn't get in, Peter King is going nuts over it.

    Fuc em were going to the tournament and have shot at a SB.
     
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  5. BoltFanDC

    BoltFanDC Objects In Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear...

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    The Steelers and their apologists have nobody to blame but themselves.

    Losses to OAK, TEN and MIN with only playoff-team wins being GB (no Rodgers) and CIN don't make all that compelling a case for them to be in the tournament anyway. They simply aren't that good.
     
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  6. ChargerMike

    ChargerMike BoltBruthaFromAnuthMutha

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    Yeah....it's not like McCoy was try'n to trip a player or somethin'.......OH SNAP!!!! :whistling:
     
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  7. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    Because the Steelers have never had calls especially from THIS REF go their way

    <cough> Super Bowl vs Seahawks <cough cough>
     
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  8. FCBolt

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    While Tomlin's talking **** about the refs in yesterday's game, perhaps he could also talk about the bogus call that cost us the Texans game....
     
  9. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Exactly....... that bogus call on Cam Thomas set them up to score a TD and likely cost us that first game. Why is the non-call in the KC game any worse, just because it came in the last game?

    The Cardinal fans have more right to complain about missing the playoffs.Their team at least managed 10 wins, the Steelers fans have nothing to complain about. A .500 record earns you exactly squat.
     
  10. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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  11. FCBolt

    FCBolt Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of the AFCCG when after we beat them all we hard about was how "the better team lost"
    easily the saddest statement any player or fan can make
     
  12. Blitzy

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    Or AFCW Championship in 2008 :laugh::abq1::abq2::helm3::helm1:
     
  13. Blitzy

    Blitzy Rainbow Bolt

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    He is from PA too :eek:
     
  14. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Hey I would be frustrated if we did not make the playoffs on a no call....

    That said, we did, and I choose to enjoy others feeling what we have felt so often.
     
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  15. BrecksOnlyBoltzFan

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    How does an 8-8 team bitch about not making the playoffs? Shut the hell up Steelers fans.
     
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  16. Blue Bolt

    Blue Bolt Persona Non Grata

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    Bolts From The Blue had a nice take on it.......

    The Missed Penalty: A History Lesson for Steelers Fans

    It's 2008, week two. Coming off a heartbreaking week one loss in the final seconds to the Carolina Panthers, the Chargers find themselves on the receiving end of one of the worst officiating errors in NFL history.

    A clear Jay Cutler fumble, and Chargers recovery, is ruled Denver football as an errant whistle blows just prior to the Chargers recovery. Despite clear video evidence, Ed Hochuli abides by the NFL's rules and awards the football to the Denver Broncos. Instead of the Chargers lining up in victory formation for the win, the Broncos score a touchdown, convert a two-point conversion, and don't allow the Chargers to score in the 0:20 left on the clock.

    All this in the same game in which a coaches challenge by the Chargers, which clearly showed a Bailey interception was actually a Chambers catch, was upheld as Broncos football due to a "replay malfunction" in which a Denver-high-school-student-run replay booth failed to work properly.

    Needless to say, that game was a Chargers victory that, because of two egregious officiating errors, was given to the Denver Broncos.

    And then...

    Fast forward to week 17, 2008. After being on the receiving end of a slue of lucky results - deja vu? - the Chargers still have an opportunity to reach the playoffs: the Chargers and Broncos were to face one another, with the winner declared the AFC West champ.

    The Chargers won that game (and therefore the AFC West) and it wasn't close.

    Case closed, right? The "replay malfunction" and Hochuli error didn't cost the Chargers anything, right? They still won the division and everything was as it was supposed to be, yes?

    Wrong...

    Tomlinson & Gates Injuries

    Had the first Chargers/Broncos tilt ended the way it should have - a Chargers victory - the final bout between the Chargers and Broncos would have been irrelevant: the Chargers would have already clinched. Knowing what we know about how Norv Turner treats meaningless late-season games - ie. by resting his starters like he did against Washington the following season - the Chargers would have likely rested Philip Rivers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and the rest of the crew in week 17.

    Instead, because the Chargers had to play that game, those players played...and two of them, Antonio Gates and LaDainian Tomlinson, were injured in the game.

    Gates re-injured the toe he had surgery on in the prior offseason, but would ultimately still play in the postseason.

    Tomlinson, on the other hand, would only get five carries in the postseason, as he was clearly hobbled early in Chargers/Colts wild card round game. This was unfortunate, as Tomlinson had finally appeared to be 100% and "old Tomlinson" during the Broncos game. In fact, NFL.com awarded Tomlinson with the game ball for his efforts that week, saying:

    It took 17 weeks, but Tomlinson finally looked like his old self, rushing for 96 yards and a season-high three touchdowns in less than three quarters. Tomlinson left in the fourth quarter with a possible abdominal strain and didn't return. - NFL.com recap

    Where the Steelers come in

    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    The Chargers, without Tomlinson, faced the Steelers in the divisional round that season, losing 35-24. In that game, the Chargers rushed the ball 11 times for a total of 15 yards...with 12 of those yards coming on draws to close the first half.

    If you don't think Tomlinson makes some difference in that statistic (and therefore the game), if you don't think he'd convert the 3rd and 2 that Sproles got 1 yard on, and if you don't think that the defensive scheme would have been altered had Tomlinson played, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how to quantify the impact other than to say it was not meaningless; it was still 1500+ yards from scrimmage Tomlinson.

    (Never mind the facts that the most significant penalty of the game - a marginal (classic "bang bang") pass interference call by Eric Weddle - gave the Steelers the football on the one yard line early in the fourth quarter, that Lamar Woodley wasn't called for roughing Rivers (on a third down) when he "picked Rivers off the ground before throwing him to the turf", and that a Rivers interception was upheld despite the football appearing to hit the ground.)

    In short

    It appears, to me, that the Steelers were an indirect beneficiary of one of the worst calls in Chargers history in a season where the Steelers would eventually go on to win that Super Bowl on a close, judgement call, which should have had a celebration penalty attached to it, if that game even ended at all.

    Bad calls and missed calls happen all the time. It's finally Chargers fans' turn to celebrate a minor error - because, really, the defensive line didn't cause Succop to miss - instead of seeing other teams prosper from Chargers' officiating misfortunes. You won't find any sympathy here.
     
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  17. matilack

    matilack #therealagent47

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    Gotta wonder how you give Steeler fans a lesson without mentioning the farce that was SBXL or the immaculate reception.
     
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  18. BoltsNHoes

    BoltsNHoes I gotta have me my....

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    I've argued all day that the kick was still missed therefore meaning nothing.

    If the Steelers want some retroactive correcting to the outcome of that game then they need to retroactively change the outcome of the Week 1 blown call against the Texans.

    End result: Chargers still 9-7, Steelers still 8-8. Keep crying.
     
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  23. ChargerMike

    ChargerMike BoltBruthaFromAnuthMutha

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    GREAT VID.....LMFAO!!!!
     
  24. Burlington Bolt Brother

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    Credit old man Jonesy for it
     
  25. ETicket

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    It's always fun to watch another team's fan base in full melt-down :abq1:

    FUN FACTS:

    1) You can go back and examine the film on many a play and find holding or interference, etc. The refs didn't see the illegal formation (new rule this year) so they didn't call it.

    2) Those complaining about a "phantom stoppage of play whistle" on the punt fake conveniently fail to see Weddle's helmet get ripped off right before the ball comes loose. Dead ball. End of story.

    3) There actually was a couple of missed calls by the refs on the punt fake. One was the failure to call delay of game on KC's Cyrus Gray for throwing the ball away in the end zone. The other was not calling an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Gray after he subsequently removed his helmet on the playing field!

    He-he-he :chiefssuck:
     
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  26. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    And if if's and but's were candy and nuts... then KC would have been taking any kick from 10 yards further back before even the first one was attempted - as the referee gave an extremely friendly spot to the ball on Cyrus Gray's wild-cat run (never measured either) for 1st down and the OL that was leading the way for him literally tackled Butler (which last I checked constituted a hold). Even if the holding call wasn't made, had the favorable spot not been given there may have been no OT, as Rivers and the offense would have gotten the ball back with 1:20+ and two timeout to drive for a game-winning FG.

    Moreover, and this may be why no one in the media is doing much more than just treating this as anecdote - I seem to remember another instance this season where the league admitted that an incorrect call was made on a kicking instance... Week One... Chargers/Texans, where Houston was given a first down and the opportunity to drive for a TD instead of the (good) FG... a game we ended up losing by a 3 point margin (you know... where that +4 point swing from the missed call really helped them). And had that call been made correctly, the Steelers would have been eliminated from playoff eligibility as soon as we beat the Raiders in Week 16 - because they couldn't have reach the requisite 9 wins to qualify (even with a win in Cleveland)... and we'd have automatically qualified as soon as Baltimore and Miami lost in Week 17, regardless of what result we posted against the Chiefs.
     
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    Any team that finishes 8-8 has no right to bitch about not making the playoffs. Period. If you want to make the playoffs, win more than half your games. I could understand the whining if the overloaded formation led to a blocked FG or something. But it didn't.
     
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  29. Lance19

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    Or if that penalty had ever been called before in NFL history...

    (days later, Wilford Brimley (aka 'Reid') claimed he realized the infraction at the time… :rolleyes: …hmmm…I'll wait 'til an official confirms that Reid said any such thing at the time)
     
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