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What's Holding Up the Stadium Project?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by sdjase, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. sdjase

    sdjase BoltTalker

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  2. SDRaiderH8er

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    Its all about big money and clout.

    The Cowboys have a huge following, the Chargers don’t.

    There is not a City anywhere that would not take the Cowboys if they decided to just pack up and move. The Chargers do not have that luxury at all. The City of Dallas does not have a City Council like San Diego has.

    Trying to compare the Chargers and Dallas is like comparing Watermelons and Onions. To different Cities, two different Organizations, and two entirely different situations.
     
  3. Sydalish

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    What's Holding Up the Stadium Project?
    By Jason Riggs
    March 25, 2009

    The Chargers have spent the past eight years and over $10M in an effort to get a new stadium built in San Diego County. However, to this date progress is still moving painfully slowly and appears to be somewhat stagnant through the first quarter of 2009.

    This is especially troubling considering that The Dallas Cowboys New Stadium was conceived, planned and constructed during that same timeframe. So, while Jerry Jones and the Cowboys prepare to lift the curtain on their new facility, the Chargers will once again be playing in an aging, crumbling facility that includes bond and maintenance burdens for every taxpayer in San Diego County.

    So, what's the deal San Diego? Why have the Dallas Cowboys been able to build a brand new facility in less time than it takes to even get an email back from some local politicians on this subject?

    Are the financial stars out of alignment for such an endeavor?

    Is it due a lack of political will?

    Everybody has an opinion on this topic, but it doesn't take an AIG Executive to see that the economy is at least a partial cultprit. As the economy contracts projects like this seem to take a back seat even though the opportunity to buy land and build inexpensively is very attractive. And that's why some of the well-informed developers with sizeable war-chests are eagerly waiting on the sidelines to fund such a project.

    Despite the curent economic conditions, several business and financial interests have expressed a desire to work with the Chargers to build a new stadium in San Diego County. Some of these entities have even gone so far as to create their own financial plans complete with committed investors. There are literally hundreds of such plans floating around right now and some very affluent entities are willing to fund them. So, it's not the economy's fault. At least not entirely. Gut instinct indicates that the economy is less of an issue than the virtually motionless political leadership when it comes to getting a new stadium built.

    It's not a stretch to say that many politicians in San Diego are somewhat lethargic when it comes to taking firm leadership positions on critical issues. Many appear to be driven less by the desire to actually serve the public and more by the need to be re-elected.

    Although the political climate has recently improved in terms of stadium-friendly politicians in power, there's still a lot of work and education required when it comes to local leadership.

    The token gadflies such as Michael Aguirre and Bruce Henderson are out of the mix now, but this only clouds the picture. It's no longer clear to the average person which politicians are for and which are against the development of a stadium in the County. There's no obvious fall-guy or woman any more. That's probably why the current crop of leaders use phrases like "wait and see what happens with Chula Vista" and "what about the backlash from the Petco Park project" and the pervasive "we have more important issues to deal with right now." If these sound like cop-outs, that's probably because they are indeed cop-outs. They are excuses for inaction.

    Okay, so there might be some validity to all of those points. An argument could be made that any effort this size involves some amount of risk. And yes, there could be backlash from the community. And, maybe the City does have other important issues to deal with right now. But, what you cannot question is that a new stadium will offer a direct path for dealing with many of these issues. It will provide a means of cleaning up the toxic site on which Qualcomm stadium now sits. It will also boost the local economy by creating jobs and bringing in critically needed tax revenue. It will preserve cherished civic assets such as the Chargers and San Diego State Aztecs. And it will provide a world class venue for highly visible national events so that they can continue to take place in America's Finest City.

    So, considering the potential risks and guaranteed rewards, how is "inaction" an option? How is sitting in an apathy-colored La-Z-Boy trying to preserve some precious political career an acceptable way for our local leaders to conduct themselves?

    In the words of Theodore Roosevelt "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed."

    The citizens and the politicians of San Diego County need to at least give this whole stadium endeavoer the "college try." Most would forgive the local leadership should it fail, but few will accept inaction when if the result is the loss of the region's only NFL team.

    Believe it or not, we could all learn a lesson from Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. When the right people work together, magnificent things can happen in a very short period. And it all starts with political leadership that is at least willing to give it a shot.

    With your help, we can change the political dialogue in San Diego County. We can make this a priority for our local leaders by forcing them to look beyond the next election cycle and seeing how much future upside will come to our region through this project. We will not tolerate blame shifting and inaction any longer.

    It's time to get it done.

    Contact your local politicians and media outlets

    Join the San Diego Stadium Coalition
     
  4. SD Native WY

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    Corruption!!!!!!!! If something doesn't do for those in power it doesn't get done. :icon_evil:
     
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    He is right. That's why I dont vote for any incumbants anymore. When you run for office its supposed to be a service to your country, state, and city. You run to get things done for the people that elected you and your ideals. These asses get in, do the very minimum and turn thier focus on getting re-elected. Once they have so many years they are set for life. Loosing the chargers and a new stadium means a lot of lost revenue for the city. Superbowls, Motocross, possible X-games and many other events that bring people from all over is great for San Diego. Wake up people!
     
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    2 words: retarded politicians
     
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    politics might have something to do with it.

    But, more likely it's that the Cowpokes franchise is worth 1.6 billion

    with Revenue of $269 mil
    Operating Income $30.6 mi

    Ranked #1 btw

    Jerry bought the team for a $150mil.

    :icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:

    Chargers???

    $888 mil

    Revenue $207 mil
    Operating Income $19.0 mil


    ranked 26

    :tdown:
     
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    I agree with you but its funny :icon_rofl: cause Dallas isn't getting their money's worth. I think Jerry needs to follow his brother Jim and drink some kool-aid. :lol:
     
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    when is the next Comet coming by?
     
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    Redundancy alert!!! :lol:
     
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    Same reason they can't seem to make it happen in San Francisco.

    As for Oakland... I don't see the Raiders getting a new stadium anywhere until Al hands the ownership to someone else.
     
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    Who would want to build a new stadium in that ****-hole? :icon_huh:
     
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    My point is that nobody will build a new stadium for Al. If he were looking to move the Raiders to any other city in the country, I don't think he'd get a new stadium.
     
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    some municipality/county in California willing to donate the land, cuz buying it, don't pencil... and that's the rub...

    Save the Murph...
     
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    Hate to say it, but the Murph is toast :( the city and aguirre sealed it's fate when they refused to even negotiate or look at the initial proposal from the Chargers.
     
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    The murph could still be done and it is the best location. It just takes the right plan.

    Funding it with condo sales is dead.

    Retail space is plentiful in the bay area, so I am sure there is an abundance in SD as well.

    It just has to be done so that it can be a profitable entity.

    You can bank on it being a regular in the SB rotation.
    College Bowls
    Other events: Concerts, Super Cross, Summer X-Games.
     
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    everything I have heard says that the mission valley site is no longer a viable option due to cost.

    not that I'm knocking the site - just haven't heard anything promising about it in some time.
     
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    And that sucks big time for the city due the enviro cleanup that will be associated with the site when the Murph comes down.
     
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    That's what I've heard too, though I wonder if they have brought this into consideration... if they start breaking up assfault that's over 40 years old, what will they find?
    Especially considering that some of that land is contaminated due to the oil refineries. That's why the Chargers have been unable to get business interests in the stadium.
    So unless they tear down the oil refineries... they're going to have a tough time turning that land into valuable real estate.
     
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    I don't remember there ever being refineries in that area.

    The oil companies have always had those storage tanks across the street but I don't see how they could factor in on the decision
     
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    There is MAJOR clean-up that needs to be done on the site. Fuel spills going way back into the 80's IIRC and possible continued leaks. For any new development there to pass an enviornmental impact report quite a bit of work needs to be done.
     
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    It's all excuses to continue lining the pockets of local politicians. It's so sad that a team gets allot of support from the fans (LT jersey being the #1 sold the last few years. I believe other Chargers as well.) It doesn't make sense that a new first class stadium isn't being built in america's finest city. All the people in the way of getting this project together need to be tared and feathered and ran out of town on a rail.
     
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    Whatever they are. I just assumed they were refineries cause one of them has gas pumps in front of it.

    There has been many claims that spills and leaks have happened and I don't find that hard to believe. It's bound to happen. With that, there has been several mentions of the land being contaminated.
     
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    Who's fault? :icon_huh:

    [​IMG]


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    There are several tanks back there, and I would beat that those tanks have leaked for awhile
     
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    Your's, grease monkey!!!
    Who ever told you it was cool to stop brushing your teeth... they lied to you!!!
     
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    OK, ASSfault. [​IMG]
     
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    There's that horrible smell again.
    Do something about your breath!!!
     

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