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Where The Wheel Stops...

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by Pointyearedog, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Okay, so the fate of three teams rests on the owners of 32 NFL teams. Who moves? Who stays? Will there be a partnership built upon the votes of the owners. Will all three teams move? Only one? No one moves until maybe next year? Lots of possibilities here. Picture yourself sitting in the room where the voting will take place. You get to call the action on what goes on in here. What is your take on the whole situation? What is going to happen, in your humble opinion? And away we go!

    Pointy :unsure:
     
  2. Fouts

    Fouts I heart Deano!

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    Rams to LA 2016

    Bolts approved to go to LA, but city of SD gets another year to get a stadium deal done. Partially blundered by Faulconer, and his hotel lobby, the citizens (with a lot of transplants who can care less about being taxed for the Chargers stadium) vote down stadium proposal. Chargers rebrand to LA Jedi, (or some other Disney franchise name) move 2017.

    City of Oakland contunues to do nothing, but gets heavily subsidized new stadium by NFL.

    :poop:
     
  3. matilack

    matilack Take A Knee McCree!!!

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    If both the Rams and Chargers move to LA I'd sooner be a Rams fan.
     
  4. Helljumper

    Helljumper BoltTalker

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    Chargers and Rams move to LA. Raiders left without a home and disolve from NFL completely, forced to give up Cooper and Mack to Chargers.
     
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  5. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Rams to Inglewood, Rayders and Chargers sent home to their respective markets for at least another year.
     
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  6. chahjah

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    No matter what happens, I'll be rooting for PR 17
    But that's it.
     
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  7. Rafael

    Rafael BoltTalker

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    Me too, for 17 and not much more, not for that team.
     
  8. JohnnyX

    JohnnyX 2017 Chargers Head Coach

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    Nothing is decided and nothing will happen. 2017 will roll around and same chit different year. I'll believe it when I see it. Just like deflategate this was nothing but hot air. Los Angeles should have never had their teams leave if they are the best market to be at.

    TL:DR NFL kicks proverbial can down till next year ad-nauseam .
     
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    I agree..However, Faders will stay in Oakland because of a viable investor. Chargers stay in SD with NFL subsidies/Kronke payoff...
     
  10. Fossil

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    Bolts bolt to Inglewood and jump into bed with the Lambs in a $2 billion mansion. NFL gives Turds a few hundred million to help build a new stadium and Mark Davis begins shopping the franchise to different cities.
     
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  11. Dublin Bolt

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    All the waffle coming from Deano makes it sound like he does not want to be in Stan's gang. No doubt Stan will sweeten the deal for Deano to agree to move into Inglewood and always be the '2nd team' there. But it'll be fine, Deano's asset will have doubled in value and that is all that matters to him. The fact that there are no new Charger fans from LA coming to the games won't matter a shite.

    Bring the Raiders down to SD and let the Spanos GTFO, we're moving on with the SD silver and black.
     
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    I have no idea what is going to be the result of the meetings going on at this time, but one possibility that has not been discussed at all is having all three teams play their homes games at the same stadium. The Chargers/Raiders partnership could, in theory, itself become a full partner with the Rams/Kroenke with each "partner" owning the stadium and the area to be developed surrounding it. Nobody would be anybody's tenant.

    Perhaps the Carson land could be flipped to Kroenke as part of the deal or there could be other cash offsets as part of the deal. (I am not sure where the numbers come out on the deal and what equalizing payments would be necessary.)

    One issue to be confronted, of course, is that one stadium can only support 17 home Sundays and each team plays 8 home games, which is 24 total home games. But each team could play one home game on a Thursday and one home game on a Monday. Then, one team would need to have a second home game on a Monday or Thursday or get one of the rare late season Saturday games or a game in London/some alternate venue.

    And that leads to issue #2, which how the field would sustain such use. The answer there is pretty simple as well--synthetic turf.

    The benefit from a league standpoint is that all three teams' bid for relocation would be satisfied and only one new stadium would need to be built. With the potential combined resources, the stadium could become the stadium in terms of the league's best facility with Jerrah turning green in the process.

    Of course, this is not what I want to happen (I want the Chargers to stay in San Diego where they belong), but as long as possibilities are being discussed....
     
  13. Kwak

    Kwak ....

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    This.

    Raiders to SD would work. Wouldn't see opposing fan takeover anymore.
     
  14. OP Bolt

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    Here are the only numbers that really matter: LA Dodgers sell for $2B; LA FREAKING CLIPPERS sell for $2B.
    Ask yourself this, other than winning tomorrow's PowerBall, how does one get to be a member of the BBC (Billionaire Boys Club)? Usually by finding some scheme to double your money. Moving to LA does that overnight. Nothing the city/county of San Diego could have done was going to change that.

    Will the Chargers be successful in LA? It really doesn't matter. Even if you sell the team - you doubled your money.

    So, the current talk show chatter is that SD immediately assumes the mantle from LA, of being the threat city to shake down other NFL cities for new stadiums. If that group of hogs (to paraphrase Mark Cuban) want back in here, I say we provide notice that we are going to use the New NFL LA Stadium Model - no public money - buy your own damn stadium.
     
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  15. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    There's at least two potential teams that want out of their current spot (Jaguars and Raiders) that would be willing to do such (either without or with a small amount of public money). That's what this whole fight has been about. The old guard don't have this money and grew fat in part on publicly funded stadiums (Giants/Steelers/Bills) and the new guard have had to pay for their own stadiums (Eagles, Pats, Jaguars, Rams).
     
  16. MasterOfPuppets

    MasterOfPuppets Charger fan since 1979

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    you're moving on with the silver and crap, count me out (the thought of it makes me sick)
     
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  17. Blitzy

    Blitzy Spanos Chargers Troll

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    And had it not been for the so-called "new guard" and the infusion of more capital, more business savvy and more aggressive marketing, clueless "old guard" like the Deanos of the NFL owners would have driven their golden nesteggs to the ground. You literally can count the number of sound decisions which Deano has made throughout his tenure as the Chairman of the Chargers, on one single hand!

    The only reason that the Chargers have increase in value is because of the socialism which exists in the NFL, i.e, by spreading the love around!
     
  18. The LBC

    The LBC I'm a Real Prick

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    Based off of the writers I've talked to Ant, you might want to fact check a decent chunk of this.

    The Jags (or more specifically Shad Khan) doesn't want out. Anytime an owner opens up his own checkbook (not taking out a G4 loan, but actually funded out of his own pocket) stadium improvements (you know, the think the Spanoses could be bothered to do... ever), that's a pretty solid indication he wants to stay where he's at.

    Also, Gillette Stadium was roundabout publicly-funded - Kraft put up maybe 1/8 the cost, got a G3 loan for a similar amount, and financed through Goldman-Sachs (he was one of the first owners to strike up a relationship with them) who then used tax-loopholes to pass the crux of the burden on to the taxpayers. The Jets and Giants didn't receive "public-funding" but they received a crap-ton from the state of New Jersey in terms of tax-breaks, free land, and already-fulfilled promises of $250m in infrastructure improvements (which did require a bond and public-funding).

    Georgia Frontiere didn't pay much of anything for the Edward Jones dome - it was massively publicly-funded, and she just gave up her own cut of certain revenues to other owners to grease the wheels of the relocation vote. Lincoln Financial Field was publicly-funded, as well.
     
  19. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    It's like waiting for the guillotine blade to fall on your head only to hear the damn thing needs repairs and won't be ready for a few hours
     
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  20. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    If this stadium deal goes through, there won't be any San Diego fans going to Lost Angeles either...
     
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  21. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    The only thing worse than that is being the poor idiot that has to fix the guillotine blade... (Are you getting this, Dean?)
     
  22. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Then again, the Chargers could be given the option to move in with the Lambs, and Spanos says no to that. Then he would be forced to come home to face the music. That would be poetic, almost...
     
  23. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    And soon after the voting for the team moves and stadiums ends, the owners will all get together and get to vote for which owner is going to win the "Azzhole Of The Year" award. I've got my nominations ready...
     
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    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    ^^^ They (Chargers) still have the right to refuse the move... This is like Texas Hold 'Em. What's your next move, Spanos? Gamble and move in with the lambsies, or fold and count yourself out? (Meaning move back to SD and hope that people will still like you?)
     
  26. L.T Bolt

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    So.... the Chargers may have one more season in SD and then join the Rams (which is basically done from what i've seen) in Inglewood......

    Well its been real... Still Chargers for Life
     
  27. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Should the Chargers leave this city and all it has to offer, that's okay. The Bolts can go to SmelL-A, my money won't...
     
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  28. chahjah

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    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    ^^^ Meaning???...
     
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    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    Looks like Fabiani is getting a cab ride home, hope he goes with a deranged Uber driver...
     

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