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Why does Hacksaw blatantly lie to get a reaction?

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by DenverBolt67, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. DenverBolt67

    DenverBolt67 BoltTalker

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    Since last Friday, Hacksaw has been claiming the Chargers mishandled the Sproles situation and they should have "Tendered him a lower" contract instead of franchising him.

    It doesn't surprise me that he is lying, but it does surprise me that people believe him.

    Here is the email I sent him yesterday after sitting on hold for 30 mins and hanging up after I knew it would be 15-20 min longer before I got on.

    How did they mishandle the Sproles situation? He was signed to a 4 year deal as a rookie. After his contract was up after the 08 season, he was an unrestricted free agent. The Chargers had very few coices.
    1. Pay him the Micheal Turner type money that his agent insisted they were looking for.
    2. Let him test free agency and hope he comes crawling back when he realizes his expectations were unrealistic.
    3. Transition tag him, pay him the average of the top 10 RB's which would been more than $5.5 mil, and get no compensation if he signs somewhere else.
    4. Do what they did and franchise him and actually have a possibility to get compensation if he signed with another team.

    Why do you keep presenting it on your show as if the Chargers had other options? They had no options. Stop lying to your listeners and present the facts not your bull **** made up stories. Sproles was NOT mishandled, stop lying!​
     
  2. RM24

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    I've been listening to Quacksaw over the years and he just does that to get a rise and reaction out of listeners. He wants to rating to be high on his show so he stirs the pot as much as possible by taking jabs at Charger Ownership and management whenever he can. I kinda just take it with a grain of salt. It used to piss me off and I think that's what he intended.

    Listen to Jim Romes impersonation of the "Saw"

    "Huh-larious!"

     
  3. Concudan

    Concudan Caffeinated Commando

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    Because of ratings. It is not important that people believe him, so long as they listen to him...
     
  4. JUGGERNAUT

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    Why do you even listen to that guy? Its only okay if you're doing it just to hear his incredulous remarks and his idiot callers agree with him.
     
  5. DenverBolt67

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    I can understand going to ratings and talking about the stories that are going to get those ratings. But it just shows a complete lack of integrity for him to make things up to get a rise out of the ignorant fan base who aren't informed about how the rules work.

    Like yesterday, he was asking what people reaction was to Adrian Gonzales saying he wants Mark Teixeira money. Unfortunately, people are too dumb to check into that claim. Adrian never said anything. His agent said during talks with the Padres about an extension, that Teixeira was used as an example. But Adrian hasn't said a single word. He has people all up in arms about The Padres being cheap and having a fire sale, all because he didn't accurately report the story and totally embellished the facts
     
  6. DenverBolt67

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    Unfortunately, the majority of the listening audience is not as informed as many of us, and they do believe him
     
  7. Pointyearedog

    Pointyearedog I only put idiots on ignore...

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    One word: Sensationalism.

    Unfortunately, like sex, it sells.

    Pointy :icon_twisted:
     
  8. nflhof

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    Hacksaw is a muckraker. He is constantly making up sh*t to stir the pot. He is so far off base on almost everything I find myself just turning him off. He used to be the voice of the Chargers and I think the Spanos' had enough of his on air bs that they sent him packing. He appeals to the emotional/unknowing fan and does all his crap for ratings. His time will come again and we wont have to listen to him much longer. I have started to listen to 1360 when he is on because I cant take his lies. NO MORE HACKSAW for me or what I have been calling him for years(thanks to Jim Rome)"The Butter Knife".
     
  9. BlazingBolt

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    He is talking about the same thing ESPN was reporting...that they could have tendered Sproles a lower contract.

    Acee had a mailbag entry about this....their is two different schools of thought...the union would be pissed and fight if they tried to give Sproles the low tender and their would be a legal fight over whether Sproles is required to have a 10% raise over last year or not...According to Acee the Chargers think that they would lose that fight and end up having to give him the money....so they didn't even try.

    We over paid for Sproles last year and now we very well may lose him and receive no compensation....to say we mishandled his contract situation is a valid opinion.
     
  10. DenverBolt67

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    If he was talking about tendering him a lower contract THIS year, he may have a case. But no one in the NFL knows for sure what they can or can't do, and what will and won't be fought by the union.

    But he specifically said they should have tendered him a lower contract LAST year, which they didn't have an option to do last year since he was a unrestricted free agent.

    Therefor, the Chargers had no options last year but to let him walk, pay him big dollar on a long term deal (His agent specifically said they wanted Micheal Turner type money), or franchise him. So, please explain how they mishandled it? Should they have let him test the market last year? Should they have given him Turner type money? Or do as they did and franchise him?
     
  11. BlazingBolt

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    If they lose him and get nothing for him then they mishandled it.....from a certain point of view.

    They could have extended him cheaply when his leg was broken...

    People actually get miffed at what Hacksaw says to try to generate phone calls? I have not heard exactly what he said about this issue that you did....if he is talking about last year than he must mean they should have signed him to a cheaper contract....paying him what they did for one year was dumb....I guess they realized that by not wanting to give him a 10% raise in an uncapped year. Basically by not franchising him again they are admitting it was a mistake....they screwed up not getting him signed cheaper...now they over paid him and they get nothing in return....(if we lose him...)
     
  12. Ride The Lightning

    Ride The Lightning Join the Dark Side, we have cookies.

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    Anyone who chooses to listen to HACKsaw deserves to be lied to.
     
  13. AnteaterCharger

    AnteaterCharger Calibrating Bolttalk, Podcast by Podcast Staff Member Super Moderator Podcaster

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    I listen more for the general energy and because I enjoy calling up and smacking him around when he's wrong. I actually called up on the Sproles point and he let me go by saying "Guy wants to be a talk show host". Oh if he only knew :lol:

    Still he says alot of things to get a rise and to make people call up and argue. Good for radio, but will bite you on the *** after a while. I listen to hear his rumors but take them all with a nice sized rock of salt
     
  14. nflhof

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    I heard your call Ant. I enjoyed hearing you give him a hard time. I think you said you were "calling out the host". He seemed to talk in circles with you.

    I really think so many fans think that after the team makes a move it is always so easy to gripe and complain a year or two after the fact. I also think the Chargers front office takes care of their players when they are in these contract situations. They really did Michael Turner a favor with the way they handled hm by letting him go the after they franchised him. And Sproles too by giving him big $ last year.
     
  15. DenverBolt67

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    Explain what they could have done, that would have gotten them something in return? There is nothing they could have done. The controvery over the lowest RFA tender wouldn't have netted anything in return, and all the other tenders would have cost $7.2 mil. So please, explain what could they have done different that would have gotten them something in return?

    They NEVER had an opprotunity to sign him cheaper as you suggest. His agent was very clear last year that they wanted "Michael Turner type money", and this was last off season.

    This off season, the reports say he is demanding 4 years $40 mil with $15mil guaranteed. Are you freakin kidding me? And people are going to get upset that they aren't bringing him back?

    So please tell me what options they had last year, and what options they have this year? It is easy to say they should sign him for cheaper, but he has to agree upon the cheaper deal, and his agent has him convinces he is worth #1 RB money.

    So until you have a suggestion of how they could have handled it differently, don't say they screwed up.
     
  16. SDDon

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    Does anybody around here understand that just because you want them to sign for a lower contract last year that Sproles and his agent passed. They also didn't sign the Franchise Tag offer till real late also.

    DB67 is right, this situation was well covered over on the CMB board by one of the Mods Joe Mc. in a number of threads. There is some language in the CBA that contradicts itself and creates a loophole about if there is a lower tender for RFA hat would of only asured Sproles $1.2 mill this year given there Chargers no comp picks at all but given them the first right of refusal if he got a contract from another team.

    There were grumblings that Union would fight this, it would of probally backfired with Sproles and his agent and we wpould of lost Sproles anyway. They took the high road, avoided the controversy and are trying to work with Sproles agent. They met with Sproles agent at the combine and let it be known what ballpark they are in for a future cntract and now come Friday Sproles will be able to see what other teams think his value is.

    This way we didn't burn a bridge here, we let it be known we want him back but at the right price and we left the door open for him to [posibly to return.

    None of the posts ion this thread make any sense about how we would of recieved any better comp for Sproles. DB67 has laid out the scenario for last exactly how it went down. So I ask any of thee folks who think it should of beeen done diferently to please explain exactly how.

    BTW, anybody who says he should of been resigned when he was injured a few years back is kidding himself. Sproles was no more than a returner then, untill Norv got here he was not as a big part of this offense yet at all, look up the numbers. It is easy to look back in hindsight and sat=y that a player who becoame a core pirce of your team should of been restructured before he became as good as he is know but who new what he would become. He was a question mark going into camp if he wopuld make the team the year after that injury.
     
  17. DenverBolt67

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    That is exactly what they tried to do with Tucker, and everyone whines about it being a dumb signing. Had he became a great player, it would have been genius. Since he has sucked, it was a very cheap gamble.

    People can't have it both way. Whine when they do it with one player, then whine when they don't do it with another.
     
  18. SDDon

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    I totally agree about Tucker.

    Another example is Castillo, I have always wondered why he was the first to get an extension out of what was this years contract class.
     
  19. DenverBolt67

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    I don't think Castillo is a good example, he wasn't signed to a cheap contract. He was paid a contract within the top 10 at his position. 5 years, $43mil with $18 mil is far from a cheap rate. It is more than what Ty Warren got the year before, 5 years $36mil $18mil guaranteed.

    I also wondered the same thing. Definitely has me scratching my head
     
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    Why?

    Because he a Drama Queen Attemtion Whore, that's why! :icon_rofl:
     
  21. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    I quit listening to the Hack back in the early 90's.
     
  22. BlazingBolt

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    It's pretty simple....Sproles asking price has gone up over time. At one point the Chargers could have signed him cheaper but they didn't think he was worth it....

    I am sure overpaying him by placing the franchise tag on him made him think he should only be paid as returner/specialist:tdown:

    My point is simply the Saw is not wrong to discuss this topic...it's freaking sports talk radio!

    Criticize the Saw all you want (yeah he deserves plenty) but the guy talks sports (except for all this Tiger Woods nonsense)....
     
  23. DenverBolt67

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    He isn't wrong in talking about it, he is wrong for presenting blatant lies as facts, when the facts are, he was a FA and the team had no choice but to pay him Micheal Turner type money OR Franchise him. But the way, by demanding Turner type money, he already has ridiculous expectation before he was franchised.

    So once again, your point makes no sense and has ZERO facts to back it up.

    By the way, talking sports doesn't mean squat, if you don't speak the truth. He is to Sports radio what Fox News is to Reality. Both blatantly lie to get a reaction from the uninformed listening audience
     
  24. DenverBolt67

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    I swear, he is like that fat woman on the Beach to me. No matter how horrible it is, I just can't stop looking.

    The 1360 guys are annoying. Maybe I should just turn sports talk off in the afternoons all together. It is a shame since 1090 is wasting their best talent (Darren Smith) on the mid-day show instead of during drive time, which is where he should be
     
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    BY the way, Quentin Jammer is another good example. He was signed to a 5 year $30mil contract while Champ Bailey got a 7 years $63mil contract 2 years prior and Charles Woodson got 7 years $52 mil the same year. We got Jammer at an extremely discounted rate compared to other top corners.

    But a team cannot take this risk on every player they have, if they did, they would end up with way more Tuckers than they would Jammers/Harwick's (6 years $17 mil)
     
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    Savage Lizard Charger fan at 7000'

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    Sirius Radio is your friend. :tup:

    I listen to their NFL Radio most of the time when I am in the car. Knowledgeable hosts, knowledgeable callers. It's good stuff!

    Unfortunately unless I get a different stereo in my car, I can't get their MLB coverage. I think I am going to have to break down and get a radio for the house.
     
  27. HEXEDBOLT

    HEXEDBOLT Don't like it, lump it!!!

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    Dude, it's a game. It doesn't mean crap in the grand scheme of thing's, it's entertainment only, and nothing more. Kind of like that rastling garbage, get the picture? :yes:
     
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    I hate the sports media.

    It's never about honest opinions but, instead, about stirring the pot because that creates ratings.
     

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